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Worst defenders to ever wear the Charlton shirt

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  • stupid thread FRANCIS end of
  • Diawara? Really?

    Not only was he in the CL last season but he hardly put a foot wrong when with us.

    A personal opinion of a player can't be related to your opinion of them on the pitch.
    Ronaldo, Grade A ****er but does that make him a poor footballer? No...
    Pardew dropped a huge clanger in dropping Diawarra for the Blackburn away game which we lost 4 1 and effectively sealed our relegation. Before that we had only lost one of the previous 8 games (an unlucky last minute defeat at Everton). Diawarra was instrumental in Pardew's great start which almost kept us up.

  • In recent years i am gonna have to say Simon Francis (sorry he could cross but couldn't tackle) and Gary Doherty.
  • didnt rate one of the kimble brothers cant remember which one,also how we got away with playing pitcher as a full back for so long,was much better in midfield though
  • I really am amazed Llera's name has not come up more often.
  • I really am amazed Llera's name has not come up more often.
    I think it's because when he was bad boy oh boy was he bad!
    But the next game he'd play quite well........never great MOTM material or consistent though was he.
  • I really am amazed Llera's name has not come up more often.
    He had more dodgy games than good, but still enough good ones to put himself a looooong way ahead of some of these names.
  • Carl Tiler. King of the hoof ball. Useless.
  • Wasn't a bad player in my opinion but Greg Shields did something for Curbs to let him go. Antony Barness at right back in his second spell used to be a bit worrying.
    Hadn't thought about Greg Shields for a while. But, yeah, he must have had a massive falling out with Curbs. I was at the training ground once after the rumours of the falling-out had startetd and it looked like he was being forced to train on his own.

  • Carl Tiler. King of the hoof ball. Useless.
    Carl Tiler didn't do it in the prem but pissed the championship.

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  • Thought Gary Borrowdale wasn't up to much
  • simon francis
  • I like Len's selections of Dietmar Bruck and Maurice Setters. The latter played like a man in his mid-40s, although he'd obviously been a highly effective hatchet man previously for Covo. More recently, I remember poor Michael Paye being given a total runaround in a late season game at the Valley. I really felt for him.
  • Certainly not the worst, but Stuart Balmer is the most over rated.
  • Joe McLaughlin....big money CB signing followed by relegation I seem to remember
  • Dietmar Bruck, Paul Curtis,Ray Tumbridge.
  • Djimi Traore - woeful is being nice to him ...............
  • Where does the myth that Francis could cross come from. 7/10 went to the first man's feet. But one or two were very good -- in a season.
  • Martin Cranie gets my vote.
  • Certainly not the worst, but Stuart Balmer is the most over rated.
    Strange comment......Stuart was well liked and a good man to have around the place.
    He was a pretty decent player but I'm not sure what you mean by overated?
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  • Ladies and gentleman I give you............ Geoff Hammond
  • Has to be the mighty Geoff Hammond
  • Michael paye.he also played in our school team and was not that great then
  • Sorry for dripping these in but woke up in the night giggling about how crap Steve Harrison was. Remember one game, I think agaist Blackburn who had 5 successive throw ins down the right hand side kicing towards the covered end. Harrison sliced 4 successive clearances into the crowd each one getting higher up the east terrace. Made Phil Fearns look cultured.
  • Blucher said:

    I like Len's selections of Dietmar Bruck and Maurice Setters. The latter played like a man in his mid-40s, although he'd obviously been a highly effective hatchet man previously for Covo. More recently, I remember poor Michael Paye being given a total runaround in a late season game at the Valley. I really felt for him.

    The Mickey Paye game you refer to was at home to Shrewsbury Town. Lost 4-2 and it was a massacre. His other game was the bent heat at Crystal Palace on Easter Monday (lost 2-0 and we played with Chris Jones in midfield!)
  • hawksmoor said:

    Wasn't a bad player in my opinion but Greg Shields did something for Curbs to let him go. Antony Barness at right back in his second spell used to be a bit worrying.
    Hadn't thought about Greg Shields for a while. But, yeah, he must have had a massive falling out with Curbs. I was at the training ground once after the rumours of the falling-out had startetd and it looked like he was being forced to train on his own.

    Didn't he get an injury which he never returned from and ended up going back to Scotland.

  • Stig said:

    hawksmoor said:

    Wasn't a bad player in my opinion but Greg Shields did something for Curbs to let him go. Antony Barness at right back in his second spell used to be a bit worrying.
    Hadn't thought about Greg Shields for a while. But, yeah, he must have had a massive falling out with Curbs. I was at the training ground once after the rumours of the falling-out had startetd and it looked like he was being forced to train on his own.

    Didn't he get an injury which he never returned from and ended up going back to Scotland.



    No, Shields had a barney with Curbs about not being in the side and got frozen out.

    As for the comments on Barness, he was a steady player who kept it simple, nothing brilliant but his long stay at Bolton in the Premiership suggests he was a good pro.
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