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John Terry Not Guilty

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  • It seems Rio Ferdinand twitted something about Ashley Cole which has cause a bit of a stir.

    Called him a "choc ice"
  • See my earlier post. Ferdinand didn't post it...he laughed at someone who did.
  • F*cking Choc Ice?!!

    (Sarcastically repeating what has been said as a question.)
  • There was no jury so no twelve men / women good and true sifting through the evidence.this was a magistrate's trial so a lay person advised by a legally qualified clerk heard the case.obviously they didn't consider the evidence strong enough for conviction .it' s a shame that in cases like this we don't have the Scottish system .under that system at a trial before the Sheriff court ( nearest comparison to a magistrate court in England ) a person can be found:1. guilty or 2.innocent or 3."guilty not proven" ( the court thinks that you are guilty of the offence that you are charged with but that there is insufficient evidence to convict so you walk ) .but a stigma attaches to such a defendant who has not been found innocentsnd therefore unconditionally aquitted .who knows perhaps that might have happened to Terry had he been tried in GLasgow for the same/ similar offence.then again as former England captain and what with all his obnoxious personal and CHelsea baggage chances are that he would probably have been found guilty by a Scottish court especially at a jury trial and he would now be on death row at Barlinnie prison !
  • ...except he was tried by a Senior District Judge not a lay person.
  • a senior district judge you say?i stand corrected.district judges are the bottom feeders of the judiciary second only to a deputy master of the queens bench division of the high court.generally non utilitarian public school boys who have failed as barristers.seems though that it has all worked out very well ffor john terry
  • a senior district judge you say?i stand corrected.district judges are the bottom feeders of the judiciary second only to a deputy master of the queens bench division of the high court.generally non utilitarian public school boys who have failed as barristers.seems though that it has all worked out very well ffor john terry
    Did a senior district judge steal your bike or something?
  • a senior district judge you say?i stand corrected.district judges are the bottom feeders of the judiciary second only to a deputy master of the queens bench division of the high court.generally non utilitarian public school boys who have failed as barristers.seems though that it has all worked out very well ffor john terry
    Not quite mate.

  • a senior district judge you say?i stand corrected.district judges are the bottom feeders of the judiciary second only to a deputy master of the queens bench division of the high court.generally non utilitarian public school boys who have failed as barristers.seems though that it has all worked out very well ffor john terry
    pmsl

  • Off topic, sorry:

    @BIG_ROB, where abouts in France are you ? (Might take up your offer of visiting, if You can put up with a "Leftie").
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  • edited July 2012
    Off topic, sorry:

    @BIG_ROB, where abouts in France are you ? (Might take up your offer of visiting, if You can put up with a "Leftie").
    I'm just north of Brive MOG, all "Lefties", "Righties", "Middlies", "Whites", "Blacks", "Browns", "Reds" will be made very welcome as they always have been.

    ; )
  • His highly paid lawyers sat down and worked out the best possible defense fence for being caught in camera saying 'you black c@nt' there decision was blur the context ... Simple ... IMHO he absolutely meant it ... I have said and done some things on a football pitch and indoor football that make me cringe because I can ludicrously competitive when playing ... All this was was a lawyers pay day ...
  • edited July 2012
    Incomplete post so removed.
  • Sarcastically repeating a racist slur to a black person is just unheard of and a load of nonsense. JT as expected obviously has top notch lawyers.

    Its always divided into the 'doing part' and the 'intent'.

    So he done the crime and shouted a racist comment to a black person, thats 100% certain.

    The intent can not be proven, (as they say) but evidence backs it up more on the side that he did mean what he said. He shouted it, so said it in an agressive mannor.

    Football is football and with the competitive nature tensions are high etc, but JT is paid roughly 100k a week and should not come out with such a stupid comment. He is supposed to set an example, but has just shown that he can pretty much get away with stuff.
  • The legal facts have already been established but the wider concern is that as a result of this trial it is deemed (legally) acceptable to call a person a f**king black c*** on the football field.

    "Big JT said it so what's the problem?"

    Pity the parents, coaches and referees at junior level trying to contribute to the sport and see youngsters playing the game in the right spirit.

  • The legal facts have already been established but the wider concern is that as a result of this trial it is deemed (legally) acceptable to call a person a f**king black c*** on the football field.

    "Big JT said it so what's the problem?"

    Pity the parents, coaches and referees at junior level trying to contribute to the sport and see youngsters playing the game in the right spirit.

    You genuinely think that people are incapable of understanding context ?
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