24th goal of the season and looked to me, in a better team, especially with a Yann type figure alongside him, he might cut it in the Championship. Anyone else think that and if so what might be enough to secure him? £500,000 if Wycombe go down?
Yes, to get that amount of goals playing in a bottom four team takes some doing and he was right handful. We could do a lot worse than take a chance on him for next year.
Looked their best player. But we could go on, but can't get them all, Manny Smith from Walsall, Wordsworth from Colchester, Lee from Brentford, Williams from Yeovil...we may need a Andy Reid class player or two next season....but don't forget we also need to leave the door open for others in our squad, and for the young players coming through.
Not good enough for our Championship squad, i think he's found his level.
they said that about grant holt. and rickie lambert. and adam la fondre...
I was impressed with him today. We need a mix of bright sparks excelling in the lower leagues and experience of championship level. Although I liked him, we have BWP and Haynes. Would appreciate an experienced strong man up front in reserve for Yann.
In the FL his ratio is one goal every four games. Not enough to justify any faith in him making it in the championship. We need a Billy Sharp type, albeit a 'Sharp type' would be hard to find and expensive to buy. Sharp has scored goals at all levels, roughly one per just over every two games. Otherwise we should keep faith with Wright-Phillips and wait for Smith to develop.
I'm not sure he's a Championship player,but other L1 teams will want him after/if Wycombe go down, e.g. the likes of MK and Notts County if they don't go up
The player showed great awareness today. He scored a very solid goal. Worked our defence throughout, and created a couple of other solid chances for himself. As already mentioned, to score the number of goals he has, in a weak side, speaks volumes for him. I think he would be worth taking a punt, especially if it could be as part of a player cash deal?
24th goal of the season and looked to me, in a better team, especially with a Yann type figure alongside him, he might cut it in the Championship. Anyone else think that and if so what might be enough to secure him? £500,000 if Wycombe go down?
500k is way too much.
Few quid plus Paul Hayes?
Ridiculous, I'm going to assume it was a joke cause it did make me chuckle.
This guy is already 27 and has basically reached his full potential as a footballer. For once I'm actually in agreement with Lincsaddick, it's a 'no' from me.
No thanks. Everytime a player has a decent game at The Valley, it seems as though there's some sort of reaction that we need to look into getting them into our team straight away.
I think as fans we underrate the ability we have up front. Danny Haynes coming off the bench has pretty much always been affective.
No chance. Didn't look impressive at all and Leon Clarke would have been a 20+ goal a season striker for chesterfield if he had stayed. He wasn't quite the ticket for us
No thanks. Everytime a player has a decent game at The Valley, it seems as though there's some sort of reaction that we need to look into getting them into our team straight away.
I think as fans we underrate the ability we have up front. Danny Haynes coming off the bench has pretty much always been affective.
At least give him the credit of having two good games against us and he scored in both of them. Probably the only one who has done this season.
But as someone has mentioned a "Billy Sharp" player would probably be a better option. And as he was established at the level he only cost £1.8m!!!
I agree oohaah, but I think he'd be worth a punt at the right price. Reminded me of Bellamy. Thought Matt Bloomfield had a good second half too. Regarding our defence, again you're right to worry. They will be exposed by pace, as they were against Notts.
... This guy is already 27 and has basically reached his full potential as a footballer. For once I'm actually in agreement with Lincsaddick, it's a 'no' from me.
Would you have said the same about Bradley Pritchard who is 26 and was playing non-league last season?
... This guy is already 27 and has basically reached his full potential as a footballer. For once I'm actually in agreement with Lincsaddick, it's a 'no' from me.
Would you have said the same about Bradley Pritchard who is 26 and was playing non-league last season?
I certainly would have counted his age against him, yes. However Pritch was 25 when he joined, not 27 as Stuart Beavon is. There's also no guarantee that Pritch will make a successful transition into the Championship.
Anyway at the end of the day Pritch was a virtually risk-free punt, whereas we would need to shell out substantial dosh for Beavon. Therein lies the difference.
Furthermore, when Pritchard signed his goals-to-games ratio (1 in 5) was almost as good as Beavon's (1 in 4)...not bad for a midfielder...job well done for our scouting department.
I believe Super Clive was weeks short of his 29th birthday for us. Some people might have said the same about him as his record of 57 goals in his previous 156 games for Grimsby wasn't exactly earth shattering.
I believe Super Clive was weeks short of his 29th birthday for us. Some people might have said the same about him as his record of 57 goals in his previous 156 games for Grimsby wasn't exactly earth shattering.
Not quite sure how that comparison works...Clive had been playing professional football at a high standard for 11 years before he joined us? 1 goal in 3 games for Grimsby in a higher division is still more impressive a feat anyway.
...at the end of the day Pritch was a virtually risk-free punt, whereas we would need to shell out substantial dosh for Beavon. Therein lies the difference.
All this debate has proved really is that when it comes to stepping up a level it varies from player to player. Pardew thought McLeod, Sinclair and Fleetwood could make the step, many thought Holt, Le Fondre and Pritchard couldn't. For all these players assumptions and gambles were made. Powell has a good record when it comes to judging player ability. Probably best just to leave it to him
Ricky Lambert was 27 when Pardew signed him for something like £1.75m. I thought he was mad. He has come good and will be in the Premier League next season (assuming they don't sell him on).
I'm not sure age is all that important (unless you are looking for resale value), but I do agree that it would be a bit of a punt, and I'd be worried about spending a significant fee for him.
I thought he was out of contract at the end of the season?
The WW website says that he "earned himself a new two-year contract in the summer following a hugely impressive 2010/11 campaign". So that would suggest two things:
(1) He has a year to go and therefore my estimated £500,00 is on the high side. Half that figure would probably be right (2) As he only scored 5 goals in 42 appearances in 2010/11, WW clearly saw something last summer that the stats belied. And he proved them right this season with 24 in 43.
In the first post I suggested at Kermy type figure alongside him and it is interesting to see the scores when he played alongside Paul Hayes:
Won 5-0 (Beavon 2, Hayes 2) Won 4-2 (Beavon 1, Hayes 1) Drew 0-0 Won 4-1 (Beavon 3, Hayes 1) Won 3-1 (Beavon 1, Hayes 2)
No wonder WW were upset when we recalled Hayes. 4 wins and a draw scoring 16 goals in the process of which 13 netted by "B & H"
PS Beavon didn't play in Hayes other game, a 4-1 defeat at Scunthorpe
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But we could go on, but can't get them all, Manny Smith from Walsall, Wordsworth from Colchester, Lee from Brentford, Williams from Yeovil...we may need a Andy Reid class player or two next season....but don't forget we also need to leave the door open for others in our squad, and for the young players coming through.
I was impressed with him today. We need a mix of bright sparks excelling in the lower leagues and experience of championship level. Although I liked him, we have BWP and Haynes. Would appreciate an experienced strong man up front in reserve for Yann.
Ridiculous, I'm going to assume it was a joke cause it did make me chuckle.
This guy is already 27 and has basically reached his full potential as a footballer. For once I'm actually in agreement with Lincsaddick, it's a 'no' from me.
I think as fans we underrate the ability we have up front. Danny Haynes coming off the bench has pretty much always been affective.
But as someone has mentioned a "Billy Sharp" player would probably be a better option. And as he was established at the level he only cost £1.8m!!!
more concerned with how our defence will cope with the more mobile strikers in the championship
Anyway at the end of the day Pritch was a virtually risk-free punt, whereas we would need to shell out substantial dosh for Beavon. Therein lies the difference.
I'm not sure age is all that important (unless you are looking for resale value), but I do agree that it would be a bit of a punt, and I'd be worried about spending a significant fee for him.
(1) He has a year to go and therefore my estimated £500,00 is on the high side. Half that figure would probably be right
(2) As he only scored 5 goals in 42 appearances in 2010/11, WW clearly saw something last summer that the stats belied. And he proved them right this season with 24 in 43.
In the first post I suggested at Kermy type figure alongside him and it is interesting to see the scores when he played alongside Paul Hayes:
Won 5-0 (Beavon 2, Hayes 2)
Won 4-2 (Beavon 1, Hayes 1)
Drew 0-0
Won 4-1 (Beavon 3, Hayes 1)
Won 3-1 (Beavon 1, Hayes 2)
No wonder WW were upset when we recalled Hayes. 4 wins and a draw scoring 16 goals in the process of which 13 netted by "B & H"
PS Beavon didn't play in Hayes other game, a 4-1 defeat at Scunthorpe