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WHY ARE WE NOT ENJOYING IT MORE ?

edited April 2012 in General Charlton
Promotions do not come around very often in football, winning championships even less.

Yet you really would struggle to think it was happening at our club at times.

At this stage two seasons ago in League One, there were 23k+ for the home game with Leeds, 20k Addicks in the ground. Two years on, and top of the table there was probably 11k Charlton fans bothering to turn up today to see a hugely vital game.

Our away crowds haven't seen any real pick up in recent games, the atmosphere in the home stands have been as muted as usual, on here and other internet mediums there has been no real pick up in happiness. People still want to just bite at each other, wind up others, or highlight negatives. Pub today was as empty pre-match as it would be for a midweek evening game.

After five really poor years, we should be really enjoying this.

So why are people not ?
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    I am .. Loving it all :-)
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    Pure nerves AFKA. Until its won I'm fearfull that we could blow it. I know it's unlikely but nonetheless.
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    I find it absolutely baffling as well. Nothing could have stopped me from wanting to be there today, or at Oldham, or next week at Carlisle. I don't think I have EVER been so excited as a supporter.

    Part of me is starting to realise that unfortunately in years gone by we have had an awful lot more armchair supporters than maybe we thought.

    We had the 23k turn up for that Leeds game, only because most supporters were expecting it to be a possible chance to win automatic promotion against a close rival in the league table.

    I know it has been done to death, but the away support really is the most baffling aspect of the lot.
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    I'm happy - but then again I'm a "knob" , apparently.
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    I was surprised at the size of the crowd today, I was expecting nearer to 18,000 being Easter Monday, however that can go against us if people have gone away etc.

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    Pure nerves AFKA.
    That's no excuse though of why for example there are thousands less attending now than compared to say 2 years ago for our opening League One game v Wycombe.

    The club has been top of the league for about six months, yet there hasn't really been much of a noticeable pick up other than when we virtually give tickets away for just a few quid.
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    we'll go up next week, FACT. COYR!
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    I won't lie, I'm fricking loving this season!
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    I've loved it, but then I'm out of order according to a lot of people for not shitting myself every week
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    As Toyah said AFKA "it's a mystery"!
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    Maybe a bit of complacency has set in. Some 'supporters' clearly seem more interested in just turning up for the game in which we will seal promotion or the title.

    If we don't manage to do it at Carlisle, then watch the sales absolutely soar for Wycombe.
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    I think that those of us that attend are nervous but revel in it because that's what football is about for real supporters. I do wonder if the attendance figures are starting to be hit be the economic situation. There has to be a reason.
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    Personally I am enjoying it.

    When people have got too happy on here and predicted great things they have been told to wait until it is all done and dusted by others including you AFKA.

    disagree on the crowds. 15000+ is good when Walsal bring a few hundred, it's pishing down and there are few schools comps (I guess) . That was our base line figure and 15k is pretty good.
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    I think it will happen against Wycombe, Carlisle away will be no push over as they are chasing the 6th spot. I would take a draw
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    Times are hard and money is tight. I am sure that many are having to tighten the purse strings. Those that were there today were obviously nervous during the game, but absolutely delighted with the result at the end of it. I think that many of us are finding it a stressful journey as we have been close before - only to be disappointed at the last minute. I'm sure this time is different, but we are still finding it hard to enjoy it until we get promotion confirmed.
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    A cold, wet bank holiday Monday at home to walsall with half the transport system shut down for engineering works. Yep, beats me why less people turned out than for a game against Leeds a couple of seasons ago...
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    Good question. People are worried about the Sheffield clubs but god knows why they aren't showing up! Perhaps it due to already paying for the Hartlepool game.
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    Are you enjoying it AFKA?
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    Don't shout, AFKA...... I can hear you!

    Because many people tend to look for the negatives?
    If you look, you'll always find something.

    Why not look for what's good instead?


    The team have done so well this season.

    We'd all hoped we could be in the promotion mix ...... but never in our wildest dreams pre-season did we think we'd be on 91 points, 8 points clear and with only 4 games to play.

    Club records are tumbling, the team is on the brink of promotion (each and every one of the previous League One seasons we'd already be promoted with 91 points).

    One last push. Get behind the team.....and rejoice!


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    speak for yourself AFKA , I'm enjoying it big time.
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    People have fallen out of the habit of coming to games every other week over the last few years and once they do it's difficult to get them back no matter how well we are doing
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    You're probably witnessing a stabilisation back to our core support. When we returned to the Valley, we had a limited capacity, but didn't always fill it. Then we had a good run up to the play-offs which coincided with the ground expansion. Then we had the anomalous Premiership years, when anyone gets big crowds. After that, crowds have been in steady decline back to mid-90's sort of levels, which is about us if we're honest.

    The 3rd division title isn't exciting enough for the floaters that attend when we get a sniff of the Prem.

    Times are quite lean for people currently too. £108 for the train to Carlisle?
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    I am .. Loving it all :-)
    Me 2.
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    Glad you asked that AFKA cos its been baffling me too from afar. I mean what happened to the 2,000 who turned up for Orient but not today? OK, I'm one, but I've got an excuse! And two years ago we went to Oldham, I happened to be home for that too, we took 1,400. Saturday, 600. Meanwhile Massive get 22,000 for a televised early kick off.
    Dunno. But I do know I'll be back for Wycombe. Salute all of you who were there today and especially at Oldham
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    I have loved this season, absolute quality.

    For work reasons, could not go to any games till a year or so ago, prior to that my last away game was away to Villa - early noughties - 0 1, went with my Chelsea cousin,CAFC support that night was embarrassing. Love to have him been able to come to a game with me this season.

    CAFC away days are brilliant
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    Are you enjoying it AFKA?
    Yes, though not as much as i thought i would (is the honest answer).

    Though i think my enjoyment is being soured by other off pitch things thing, such as they way people post on here etc etc

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    There is a huge recession going on Bart....people are generally 'down in the dumps' and it permiates through all aspects of life at the moment....football included.
    For example, my sales figures are down 50% in 12 months, folk are being very very cagey with their disposable income...............what little they have that is.
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    I think that those of us that attend are nervous but revel in it because that's what football is about for real supporters. I do wonder if the attendance figures are starting to be hit be the economic situation. There has to be a reason.
    Yes it ain't a cheap day out, £26 this afternoon for me and the boy including a packet of crisps and a drink.
    As for the lack of singing/atmosphere, we were in block H covered end and it was a mix of families, young kids and a few who'd obviously never been before. To get everyone singing just ain't going to happen unless we have a shuffle round and get people in the covered end who know the songs and want to sing. IMHO.
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    Are you enjoying it AFKA?
    Yes, though not as much as i thought i would (is the honest answer).

    Though i think my enjoyment is being soured by other off pitch things thing, such as they way people post on here etc etc

    The only thing that sours a bit of the enjoyment for me is the fact that there aren't more of us getting involved with it. With the smaller attendances than expected, it gives me a niggling feeling that League One promotion maybe just isn't that important to Football fans unless you're a die hard.
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    edited April 2012
    I am loving this season. I am amazed at some of the negativity on here, towards JJ today especially, and at the game today and the only thing I can put all this negativity down to is the geopolitics of the area of the club we support. People say it's because we are Charlton and we don't do things the easy way. I swear some fans expect us to play like Brazil or Barcelona and that the other team should just lie down in front of us and capitulate. We beat a team on saturday with 9 men. We just played our 3rd game in 9 days and have won all three. We are top of the league and have been for 99% of the season and on top of this we have broken several club records on the way. All from somone who has managed us with not even a full season in management under his belt. Pretty bloody amazing if you ask me. What more do we want? I guess some of us are perfectionists and nothing but the best will do. But guess what? We might just be at the end of this glorious season so lets enjoy it for what it is.
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