Whilst the train companies are nominally privatised (thank you EU diktats) they are effectively monopolies and we are not talking about pricing for competitive advantage.
What we are talking about is licensed theft and rather than interfere where they are not wanted governments should regulate to prohibit such licensed theft in my opinion.
Trust Len to get the EU into a thread about trains!
The Train Operating Companies are not really privatised.They get so many handouts its just a badly run expensive version of B.R.The only properly privatised rail companies are the freight companies.
That's my point and it makes their licensed theft even more unjustifiable in my opinion of course!
The UK chose to comply with this diktat via privatisation. It is highly improbable that privatisation would have happened had our Masters in Brussels not issued the diktats.
If Thatcher had had her way, she would have closed the railway system down completely.
If she had her way she would have ruined everyone's life and not battered an eyelid in the process. I'm looking forward to that Trafalgar Square party. It cant come quick enough.
The railway system in this country was privatised by the conservative government and would have happened if the EU had said it was illegal to do so. Another way of destroying a trade union stronghold. Was done out of pure conservative ideology nothing more. The NHS which is not under threat by this coalition HA will be going the same way over the next twenty or so years.
The railway system in this country was privatised by the conservative government and would have happened if the EU had said it was illegal to do so. Another way of destroying a trade union stronghold. Was done out of pure conservative ideology nothing more. The NHS which is not under threat by this coalition HA will be going the same way over the next twenty or so years.
Len, the EU issued a Directive and the UK chose how they best wanted to implement this.
As your own link testifies, the UK is the only country that has gone down the route of a "genuinely privatised infrastructure owner" - i.e. it was OUR choice.
We're talking about the price of train tickets here, so please stop trying to get your pathological hatred of everything EU related into every bloody thread you comment on via any tenuous link you can - it's gets quite tedious after a while.
Len, the EU issued a Directive and the UK chose how they best wanted to implement this.
As your own link testifies, the UK is the only country that has gone down the route of a "genuinely privatised infrastructure owner" - i.e. it was OUR choice.
We're talking about the price of train tickets here, so please stop trying to get your pathological hatred of everything EU related into every bloody thread you comment on via any tenuous link you can - it's gets quite tedious after a while.
..."Len, the EU issued a Directive and the UK chose how they best wanted to implement this."...
That's what I said. Others queried it so I supplied a couple of links.
Do I no longer have a right to respond when my views are questioned?
Actually don't answer that. I've got more important things to think about.
If Thatcher had had her way, she would have closed the railway system down completely.
Ah good - back to mindless ignorance after a few days break. I blame Wilson and Douglas-Home
Year Total length closed 1950 150 miles (240 km) 1951 275 miles (443 km) 1952 300 miles (480 km) 1953 275 miles (443 km) 1954 to 1957 500 miles (800 km) 1958 150 miles (240 km) 1959 350 miles (560 km) 1960 175 miles (282 km) 1961 150 miles (240 km) 1962 780 miles (1,260 km) Beeching report published 1963 324 miles (521 km) 1964 1,058 miles (1,703 km) 1965 600 miles (970 km) 1966 750 miles (1,210 km) 1967 300 miles (480 km) 1968 400 miles (640 km) 1969 250 miles (400 km) 1970 275 miles (443 km) 1971 23 miles (37 km) 1972 50 miles (80 km) 1973 35 miles (56 km) 1974 0 miles (0 km)
Len, the EU issued a Directive and the UK chose how they best wanted to implement this.
As your own link testifies, the UK is the only country that has gone down the route of a "genuinely privatised infrastructure owner" - i.e. it was OUR choice.
We're talking about the price of train tickets here, so please stop trying to get your pathological hatred of everything EU related into every bloody thread you comment on via any tenuous link you can - it's gets quite tedious after a while.
..."Len, the EU issued a Directive and the UK chose how they best wanted to implement this."...
That's what I said. Others queried it so I supplied a couple of links.
Do I no longer have a right to respond when my views are questioned?
Actually don't answer that. I've got more important things to think about.
So, where does the "EU Masters" bit come in if it was OUR choice? IN fact, what has it got to do with the EU at all that train tickets are a rip-off (which I think we can all agree on). Why bring the EU into it at all?
That's MY point. You always do it and try to bring in a link that's just not there to suit your own purposes. It's boring.
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I do what I can ;0)
http://www.jrtr.net/jrtr29/pdf/f19_pro.pdf
Page 20 is the relevant bit.
The UK chose to comply with this diktat via privatisation. It is highly improbable that privatisation would have happened had our Masters in Brussels not issued the diktats.
http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=CELEX:31991L0440:en:HTML
Sydney Cheesewright is the leader of this, or unless I'm mistaken?
As your own link testifies, the UK is the only country that has gone down the route of a "genuinely privatised infrastructure owner" - i.e. it was OUR choice.
We're talking about the price of train tickets here, so please stop trying to get your pathological hatred of everything EU related into every bloody thread you comment on via any tenuous link you can - it's gets quite tedious after a while.
That's what I said. Others queried it so I supplied a couple of links.
Do I no longer have a right to respond when my views are questioned?
Actually don't answer that. I've got more important things to think about.
I blame Wilson and Douglas-Home
Year Total length closed
1950 150 miles (240 km)
1951 275 miles (443 km)
1952 300 miles (480 km)
1953 275 miles (443 km)
1954 to 1957 500 miles (800 km)
1958 150 miles (240 km)
1959 350 miles (560 km)
1960 175 miles (282 km)
1961 150 miles (240 km)
1962 780 miles (1,260 km)
Beeching report published
1963 324 miles (521 km)
1964 1,058 miles (1,703 km)
1965 600 miles (970 km)
1966 750 miles (1,210 km)
1967 300 miles (480 km)
1968 400 miles (640 km)
1969 250 miles (400 km)
1970 275 miles (443 km)
1971 23 miles (37 km)
1972 50 miles (80 km)
1973 35 miles (56 km)
1974 0 miles (0 km)
That's MY point. You always do it and try to bring in a link that's just not there to suit your own purposes. It's boring.
Surprised at you with that comment Oggy.