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  • Gotta say if it would have cost us only £250k to install when we were in the Prem, that seems like absurd short-sightedness and decision making from the board given that we spent that sum on speculatively signing Martin Christensen, and probably on a single signing on fee for hasselbaink or faye etc, it is frustrating
    I think you can assume that is the view internally, but hindsight is a wonderful thing.

    Indeed, thanks Airman. Just surprising as we did / do seem generally quite forward thinking in terms of developing facilities / academy / training ground etc, but I guess everybody makes mistakes and it only seems to have been post-prem days since the severe weather conditions have become so regular. Can only remember the one game (West Ham New Years day) getting cancelled in the prem so I guess maybe it didn't seem like that much of an issue at the time.
    You mean like our state of the art ticketing system and barcode reading turnstiles . . . In fact the club has often been a bit short-sighted about long-term investment in the stadium, while focusing available resources on the team and sometimes the whims of the incumbent manager. Not saying that was always wrong, just that the idea we were generally ahead of the curve is a bit of a simplification.

    The board which turned down undersoil heating also decided to build itself an extension to the boardroom over reception one summer, which was not a project that generated any obvious commercial revenue AFAIK.
    I salute your 'bravery' Airman.... be careful not to 'fly' to close to the sun though, anyway the trophy cabinet will need extending at the end of the season right.......... naturally with 'clives medal's' in there rightful place.......
  • Gotta say if it would have cost us only £250k to install when we were in the Prem, that seems like absurd short-sightedness and decision making from the board given that we spent that sum on speculatively signing Martin Christensen, and probably on a single signing on fee for hasselbaink or faye etc, it is frustrating
    I think you can assume that is the view internally, but hindsight is a wonderful thing.

    Indeed, thanks Airman. Just surprising as we did / do seem generally quite forward thinking in terms of developing facilities / academy / training ground etc, but I guess everybody makes mistakes and it only seems to have been post-prem days since the severe weather conditions have become so regular. Can only remember the one game (West Ham New Years day) getting cancelled in the prem so I guess maybe it didn't seem like that much of an issue at the time.
    You mean like our state of the art ticketing system and barcode reading turnstiles . . . In fact the club has often been a bit short-sighted about long-term investment in the stadium, while focusing available resources on the team and sometimes the whims of the incumbent manager. Not saying that was always wrong, just that the idea we were generally ahead of the curve is a bit of a simplification.

    The board which turned down undersoil heating also decided to build itself an extension to the boardroom over reception one summer, which was not a project that generated any obvious commercial revenue AFAIK.
    Well yeh fair point but we must've spent a fair chunk of 250grand on architects / consultants fees etc just getting planning permission to potentially build up the south and east stands, so it would appear as a non-insider that the club were in fact thinking proactively (certainly in the prem days) about improving the ground, so just seems bizarre that undersoil heating was ignored.

    And re the ticketing, that seems fairly non-essential - I guess staffing costs and all that, but to be honest my experience of them systems is that they are a waste of time anyway as each turnstile still often has somebody helping you put your ticket through anyway! Either way, you're not gonna get games called off cos youre turnstiles arent up to date. Either way clearly mistakes were made and I'm sure you know much more about it than me!
  • Gotta say if it would have cost us only £250k to install when we were in the Prem, that seems like absurd short-sightedness and decision making from the board given that we spent that sum on speculatively signing Martin Christensen, and probably on a single signing on fee for hasselbaink or faye etc, it is frustrating
    Maybe we could get Hasselbaink to come back and sit on the pitch the night before a game. For once he might go somewhere towards earning the ridiculous amount of money he took from us.
  • edited February 2012
    Maybe we could get Hasselbaink to come back and sit on the pitch the night before a game. For once he might go somewhere towards earning the ridiculous amount of money he took from us.

    second that........
    or stitch his 'shorts' together and make another cover for the pitch

  • The board which turned down undersoil heating also decided to build itself an extension to the boardroom over reception one summer, which was not a project that generated any obvious commercial revenue AFAIK.
    Don't bring me into this !

  • edited February 2012
    Gotta say if it would have cost us only £250k to install when we were in the Prem, that seems like absurd short-sightedness and decision making from the board given that we spent that sum on speculatively signing Martin Christensen, and probably on a single signing on fee for hasselbaink or faye etc, it is frustrating
    I think you can assume that is the view internally, but hindsight is a wonderful thing.

    Indeed, thanks Airman. Just surprising as we did / do seem generally quite forward thinking in terms of developing facilities / academy / training ground etc, but I guess everybody makes mistakes and it only seems to have been post-prem days since the severe weather conditions have become so regular. Can only remember the one game (West Ham New Years day) getting cancelled in the prem so I guess maybe it didn't seem like that much of an issue at the time.
    You mean like our state of the art ticketing system and barcode reading turnstiles . . . In fact the club has often been a bit short-sighted about long-term investment in the stadium, while focusing available resources on the team and sometimes the whims of the incumbent manager. Not saying that was always wrong, just that the idea we were generally ahead of the curve is a bit of a simplification.

    The board which turned down undersoil heating also decided to build itself an extension to the boardroom over reception one summer, which was not a project that generated any obvious commercial revenue AFAIK.
    Well yeh fair point but we must've spent a fair chunk of 250grand on architects / consultants fees etc just getting planning permission to potentially build up the south and east stands, so it would appear as a non-insider that the club were in fact thinking proactively (certainly in the prem days) about improving the ground, so just seems bizarre that undersoil heating was ignored.

    And re the ticketing, that seems fairly non-essential - I guess staffing costs and all that, but to be honest my experience of them systems is that they are a waste of time anyway as each turnstile still often has somebody helping you put your ticket through anyway! Either way, you're not gonna get games called off cos youre turnstiles arent up to date. Either way clearly mistakes were made and I'm sure you know much more about it than me!
    would have cost a few grand to get outline planning permission for the south stand which i think is as far as it went
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