Charlton = Kent? You what? Because we attract support further than Penge. You two bob note, your fans only turn up when it's a big game, which is once a decade. Look at your average gate, it's pathetic.
My ranking was not scientific and agree if anyone has the time we should look at a formula .
Factors should include attendances , seasons in respective divisions ,previous honours and the current position must also be factored in , we cannot claim in League One that we have the same prestige as five years ago when we were in the Prem . Therefore it is fluid which is why I clustered them .
Ten years ago I would have put Chelsea alongside West Ham but below Spurs , but clearly following the Abramovic years they would probably go ahead of Tottenham and if they were to win the Champions League possibly even challenge Arsenal as London's top side .
The reason I placed the Wombles above Barnet and Dagenham was because their crowds are almost twice as big and I think we need to acknowledge the traditions of the old Wimbledon whilst accepting it is a new club as old Wimbledon would have been higher in the pecking order .
Biggest factor is attendance and i'd say spurs, if they had the capacity, would easily have bigger attendances than Chelsea, 2nd only to Arsenal who i think are way out in front as London's biggest.
I think that Spurs are just as well supported as Arsenal. If they had a 60,000 capacity stadium they would fill it.
Also West Ham are easily as well supported as Chelsea if not better.
I would put Charlton, Palace Millwall and QPR in the second bracket with very little splitting them in terms of size of the club.
Anyway it is what it is and doesn't really matter, for me there's only one club in London and I'm sure Orient,brentford fans etc would say the same thing!!
I think that Spurs are just as well supported as Arsenal. If they had a 60,000 capacity stadium they would fill it.
Also West Ham are easily as well supported as Chelsea if not better.
I would put Charlton, Palace Millwall and QPR in the second bracket with very little splitting them in terms of size of the club.
Anyway it is what it is and doesn't really matter, for me there's only one club in London and I'm sure Orient,brentford fans etc would say the same thing!!
Millwall are not in the second bracket and i think they'd agree.
I think that Spurs are just as well supported as Arsenal. If they had a 60,000 capacity stadium they would fill it.
Also West Ham are easily as well supported as Chelsea if not better.
I would put Charlton, Palace Millwall and QPR in the second bracket with very little splitting them in terms of size of the club.
Anyway it is what it is and doesn't really matter, for me there's only one club in London and I'm sure Orient,brentford fans etc would say the same thing!!
Millwall are not in the second bracket and i think they'd agree.
So you would put them in with Brentford, Orient etc???
I didn't start the bracket thing but i'd say palace and qpr are arguably in a similar bracket to us, millwall are somewhere between that and the Brentford, Orient bracket.
Tottenham fan at my work just put Palace & QPR higher than us claiming they had spent more recent history in Premier League, spurs fans you gotta just love em ain't ya. (Shakes Head)
It is very easy to see the biggest- look at home fan attendances - I would put us firmly above Palarse, QPR and Fulham. Not always been so agree it is fluid although I think not as fluid as it used to be. I think Folev's list is spot on at the moment.
Based on tangibles like crowd size, achievements, years in the top flight etc we are not quite in the same bracket as QPR, Charlton & Palace.
We could get into that bracket if things were to actually go right for a few years.
If we went on who would be better known across the world, well, obviously our fans great work at enhancing the reputation of Millwall would see us rise quickly up the list....
You are miles behind West Ham and always will be whilst the media is full of the vermin twats who continue to perpetuate the legend of "The Academy" and how they won the world cup.
You are miles behind West Ham and always will be whilst the media is full of the vermin twats who continue to perpetuate the legend of "The Academy" and how they won the world cup.
Who would rank higher in your opinion, West Ham or Wednesday?
Obviously it depends on what criteria you pick. I had a go ranking them using some easy to find data in Rothmans. Don't think I've got it right though, as I'd have never said that Chelsea were bigger than Arsenal. I think it gives a fair reflection of where we are though:
Would swap QPR & Fulham round and Wimbledon & Brentford You give Wimbledon credit for their past re highest league position & trophies but not record attendance or transfer paid, if you did, this would see them past Brentford.
Based on the number of seasons spent in the Top Flight of English Football...
Arsenal 95 Tottenham Hotspur 77 Chelsea 77 West Ham United 54 Charlton Athletic 26 Fulham 23 Queens Park Rangers 21 Wimbledon 14 Crystal Palace 13 Watford 8 Brentford 5 Millwall 2 Leyton Orient 1
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Factors should include attendances , seasons in respective divisions ,previous honours and the current position must also be factored in , we cannot claim in League One that we have the same prestige as five years ago when we were in the Prem . Therefore it is fluid which is why I clustered them .
Ten years ago I would have put Chelsea alongside West Ham but below Spurs , but clearly following the Abramovic years they would probably go ahead of Tottenham and if they were to win the Champions League possibly even challenge Arsenal as London's top side .
The reason I placed the Wombles above Barnet and Dagenham was because their crowds are almost twice as big and I think we need to acknowledge the traditions of the old Wimbledon whilst accepting it is a new club as old Wimbledon would have been higher in the pecking order .
Also West Ham are easily as well supported as Chelsea if not better.
I would put Charlton, Palace Millwall and QPR in the second bracket with very little splitting them in terms of size of the club.
Anyway it is what it is and doesn't really matter, for me there's only one club in London and I'm sure Orient,brentford fans etc would say the same thing!!
Fulham would also be in the second tier.
you bastard
We could get into that bracket if things were to actually go right for a few years.
If we went on who would be better known across the world, well, obviously our fans great work at enhancing the reputation of Millwall would see us rise quickly up the list....
Thought we had a palace supporter among the ranks.
Would swap QPR & Fulham round and Wimbledon & Brentford
You give Wimbledon credit for their past re highest league position & trophies but not record attendance or transfer paid, if you did, this would see them past Brentford.
Arsenal 95
Tottenham Hotspur 77
Chelsea 77
West Ham United 54
Charlton Athletic 26
Fulham 23
Queens Park Rangers 21
Wimbledon 14
Crystal Palace 13
Watford 8
Brentford 5
Millwall 2
Leyton Orient 1
http://www.myfootballfacts.com/SEASONS-IN-TOP-FLIGHT----1888-89-to-2009-10.html
still according to that, Millwall are on a par with Darwen