Stupid for Blackburn to sack Allardyce they were doing ok under him and they would not have gone anywhere further without investing players. Apparently those owners were interested in buying us before Slater and Jimmenz took over, so glad we don't have then as apparently they don't have any money.
Spoke to someone the other night about dowie, we both remember charlton bottom of the league, turned on skysports news and dowie had the squad playing cricket... Thinking about that now it was just ridiculous.
shows how bolton have just been under par but have faiht in their manager. every fan cheering coyle as he goes over. steve kean just got boo'd and abused. allerdyce would of kept that club up soundly every year. owners own fault their staring relegation in the face.
I think they need better players, not a new manager. Will never understand the emphasis thats put on managers.
Not really. The team is not substantially different to when Allardyce was in charge, and forget about style of play the results say it all. Reed was not a manager, Kean is not a manager, some people just don't have it in them.
I don't get how that makes the players play well/poorly? Hoilett looked pretty good to me, are you saying if he had a different manager his ability would improve? Vice versa for the others. Im not saying your wrong, im just trying to understand why managers get so mucb emphais put on them. Other than team selection i cant see much more that they can do.
I think they need better players, not a new manager. Will never understand the emphasis thats put on managers.
Not really. The team is not substantially different to when Allardyce was in charge, and forget about style of play the results say it all. Reed was not a manager, Kean is not a manager, some people just don't have it in them.
What about towards the end of last season when blackburn where playing well. Who was manager then ?
The players have to take some responsibility, because at the end of the day there the ones who play Football. A manager can only do so much.
Trouble is, players don't respond to some managers for many reasons...
Steve kean could and proberly is a top coach but a manager (I assume) requires a hell of a lot more. And that starts players responding to what you ask them... Maybe there players just dont want to put in a shift as much...
I know history proves otherwise but I'm not 100% sure uncle Les was all that bad. The whole club from top to bottom was in a tailspin by that point. Not sure we could have been saved.
I don't get how that makes the players play well/poorly? Hoilett looked pretty good to me, are you saying if he had a different manager his ability would improve? Vice versa for the others. Im not saying your wrong, im just trying to understand why managers get so mucb emphais put on them. Other than team selection i cant see much more that they can do.
I think a good example of a manager making a difference, is Paul Lambert at Norwich. Or Roy Keane when he first took over at Sunderland. I'm not saying that players aren't important, far from it, but those are two good recent examples of managers utilising the same group of players to better effect.
I think a good example of a manager making a difference, is Paul Lambert at Norwich. Or Roy Keane when he first took over at Sunderland. I'm not saying that players aren't important, far from it, but those are two good recent examples of managers utilising the same group of players to better effect.
Then he was poor at Ipswich. Powell, didn't do great last season, alot of money was invested in players in the summer and now wer're top. Thats a prime example of my my point. Has he magically gone from being a bad/average manager to a great manager...
Kean has won seven games out of thirty seven that is poor and he obviously isn't getting a response from the players. They may be awful owners but that is an awful record, I can't see them giving him much longer.
I know history proves otherwise but I'm not 100% sure uncle Les was all that bad. The whole club from top to bottom was in a tailspin by that point. Not sure we could have been saved.
Thing is I'm not sure that's true. We'd had a run of harder games, and were in the last 8 of the League Cup. The famous Matty Holland interview on SSN proved that Les didn't have the senior players' confidence (well I'm reading a bit into that - he had definitely lost one professional and senior player's confidence, anyway). Kean seems to have the backing of the Blackburn squad for some reason.
Blackburn are a small club with dire crowds,punch well above there weight
Spot on, old bean.
They only ever punched above their weight because of the Jack Walker money, in the end the Walker trustees did not want to spunk the rest of the blokes money on paying out on footballers wages and sold the club to the Venky's.
Their true place - like ours - is mid-table Championship with the odd flirtation with promotion.
I think a good example of a manager making a difference, is Paul Lambert at Norwich. Or Roy Keane when he first took over at Sunderland. I'm not saying that players aren't important, far from it, but those are two good recent examples of managers utilising the same group of players to better effect.
Then he was poor at Ipswich. Powell, didn't do great last season, alot of money was invested in players in the summer and now wer're top. Thats a prime example of my my point. Has he magically gone from being a bad/average manager to a great manager...
Right manager, right club, right time, right back-room staff. Powell is a very new manager, he's going to learn and get better. Keane did well in a particular circumstance with a lot of money and an air of magic around him. He's a charismatic character, with an amazing track record who is doubtlessly a bit scary when he is narked. I suspect that after a while a number of the players realised that he was a bit bonkers. The consistently brilliant managers are going to be the ones that can adapt their styles to the conditions/budget/league. I rather suspect that Lambert will prove to be that - as he's done well in Scotland and England and in all of the leagues.
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I don't. He stabbed Allardyce in the back and is totally out of his depth.
Hope he gets the sack tonight.
but did he get them lost on a run in newcastle. cos that's an instant dismissal in anyone's book.
Thinking about that now it was just ridiculous.
What about towards the end of last season when blackburn where playing well. Who was manager then ?
The players have to take some responsibility, because at the end of the day there the ones who play
Football. A manager can only do so much.
Steve kean could and proberly is a top coach but a manager (I assume) requires a hell of a lot more. And that starts players responding to what you ask them... Maybe there players just dont want to put in a shift as much...
Spot on, old bean.
They only ever punched above their weight because of the Jack Walker money, in the end the Walker trustees did not want to spunk the rest of the blokes money on paying out on footballers wages and sold the club to the Venky's.
Their true place - like ours - is mid-table Championship with the odd flirtation with promotion.
i don't get this comment at all.