Elvis ... simply no contest .. neither wrote their own material, Elvis could sing ANYthing and make it sound wonderful. Jackson's songs were mostly written by Rod Templeton from Cleethorpes and Jackson's sound was invented and engineered by Quincy Jones, Plastic Jacko I'm afraid in more ways than one.
Bullcrap. First of all it's Temperton not Templeton, secondly Jackson wrote roughly 50% of his own material (as opposed to 0% for Elvis Presley), third you are an absolute tool.
Don't make things up to sound intelligent because you aren't smart enough to begin with.
g f y ... and grow up, if you believe that soppy jacko wrote ANY of his own material, you are the silly little boy too young to have a tool .. Jackson was a perverted little nonce and a manufactured 'artiste' with all his silly little squeaks, probably his odd brother pinching his arse .. a nonce from a nonce family
Rather OTT, Lincs IMHO. I thought the question was about their music - not about their morals ...and that is if you believe everything you read. The 2 musicians in question were/are both hugely popular, each in their own way , hence the media interest over the years in EVERYTHING they did/did not do. How many other so called stars out there are whiter than white ? ( pardon the pun) For one, I judge an artist on the enjoyment I derive from listening to their music .
Jackson was a star at 8 years old wasn't he? And when was the last time you heard Elvis on the radio. Jackson was king of pop, Elvis king of rock. Jackson for me purely because I don't like Elvis songs. Bet there's more people on here who have a Jackson record in the archive than Elvis.
Depends what radio station you listen to, teenybopper stations play Jacko, grown up ones play both. Hillbilly, rockabilly, rock n roll, pop, country, gospel, showtunes from Elvis, pop and disco from Jacko. If your musical interest is narrow then maybe you don't like any Elvis songs, on the other hand you may not have actually heard many, I suspect the latter from your comment about the radio Jay?
I don't know how much Jackson composed, but I think composition is an overrated part of rock/pop music. It's primarily a performance art and from Elvis to punk to hip-hop it's been about the sound rather than the musical notes on paper.
Having played a major part in inventing rock 'n' roll (his 50's stuff is utterly unlike the versions recorded by the 'original' artists) Elvis also went on to invent 'middle-age rock' in the late 60s and early 70s.
So I'd say Elvis is a more important artist than Jackson. Which one is best is a matter of personal taste; I have more Elvis than Jackson in my collection, so I'll go with the former on that score too.
Elvis ... simply no contest .. neither wrote their own material, Elvis could sing ANYthing and make it sound wonderful. Jackson's songs were mostly written by Rod Templeton from Cleethorpes and Jackson's sound was invented and engineered by Quincy Jones, Plastic Jacko I'm afraid in more ways than one.
Bullcrap. First of all it's Temperton not Templeton, secondly Jackson wrote roughly 50% of his own material (as opposed to 0% for Elvis Presley), third you are an absolute tool.
Don't make things up to sound intelligent because you aren't smart enough to begin with.
g f y ... and grow up, if you believe that soppy jacko wrote ANY of his own material, you are the silly little boy too young to have a tool .. Jackson was a perverted little nonce and a manufactured 'artiste' with all his silly little squeaks, probably his odd brother pinching his arse .. a nonce from a nonce family
Rather OTT, Lincs IMHO. I thought the question was about their music - not about their morals ...and that is if you believe everything you read. The 2 musicians in question were/are both hugely popular, each in their own way , hence the media interest over the years in EVERYTHING they did/did not do. How many other so called stars out there are whiter than white ? ( pardon the pun) For one, I judge an artist on the enjoyment I derive from listening to their music .
MJ wins hands down.
Guess that makes me a silly little girl
depends on your age .. for my part, as a BIG Tamla Motown fan, I always found the Jacksons false, Californiaised, manufactured, overmarketed and in total contrast to the great Detroit groups Like the 4 Tops, Temptations, Vandellas, Supremes etc etc as well as Philadelphia and Stax artists, Trammps, Sam & Dave, MGs for example. MJ was exploited since he was a little boy until he died. The same is probably true of Elvis to a lesser extent, however, in my opinion, Elvis had a genuine talent and love of his trade and art, whereas Jackson hated his life, was a slave to his family and money men. All of Jackson's videos that I have seen are so cut and pasted (rather like his body and personality) that it's impossible for me at least to quantify or assess his ability and talent as opposed to the technical abilities of video editors and studio knob twidlers.
If you as an individual prefer surface to sustance than I guess Jackson is 'your man'. For my part, Elvis for all his selfishness and personal problems, was a truly gifted singer and a far superior 'artist' to Michael Jackson.
Elvis and Jackson have lots of imperfections, but Elvis, probably unwittingly at the time, mined the rich vein of music by black artists, and yes he stole, but he also brought recognition to such music which had been kept previously in a musical ghetto. In the context of his time and place there is no doubt thar Elvis was a groundbreaker.
And his voice? As the Velvets might say, at the right moment the Elvis voice at its best could get right in the 'centre of your head', he could on occasion produce a very special sound.
Jackson was a musical genius as well, but he had lots of shoulders to stand on, including Elvis, there remains still a modern thrilling sound about Jackson, a close call between the two then. Because of his groundbreaking impact I reckon Elvis wins by one goal.
Jackson was offensive, so it's understandable that comments about him reflect that. However, as far as I am aware nobody was suggesting that his mum got ****ed.
However, as far as I am aware nobody was suggesting that his mum got ****ed.
Fair enough, next time I'll double check something I've copied from the internet. For the record I have no idea where these racist allegations come from.
Elvis ... simply no contest .. neither wrote their own material, Elvis could sing ANYthing and make it sound wonderful. Jackson's songs were mostly written by Rod Templeton from Cleethorpes and Jackson's sound was invented and engineered by Quincy Jones, Plastic Jacko I'm afraid in more ways than one.
Bullcrap. First of all it's Temperton not Templeton, secondly Jackson wrote roughly 50% of his own material (as opposed to 0% for Elvis Presley), third you are an absolute tool.
Don't make things up to sound intelligent because you aren't smart enough to begin with.
g f y ... and grow up, if you believe that soppy jacko wrote ANY of his own material, you are the silly little boy too young to have a tool .. Jackson was a perverted little nonce and a manufactured 'artiste' with all his silly little squeaks, probably his odd brother pinching his arse .. a nonce from a nonce family
Rather OTT, Lincs IMHO. I thought the question was about their music - not about their morals ...and that is if you believe everything you read. The 2 musicians in question were/are both hugely popular, each in their own way , hence the media interest over the years in EVERYTHING they did/did not do. How many other so called stars out there are whiter than white ? ( pardon the pun) For one, I judge an artist on the enjoyment I derive from listening to their music .
MJ wins hands down.
Guess that makes me a silly little girl
depends on your age .. for my part, as a BIG Tamla Motown fan, I always found the Jacksons false, Californiaised, manufactured, overmarketed and in total contrast to the great Detroit groups Like the 4 Tops, Temptations, Vandellas, Supremes etc etc as well as Philadelphia and Stax artists, Trammps, Sam & Dave, MGs for example. MJ was exploited since he was a little boy until he died. The same is probably true of Elvis to a lesser extent, however, in my opinion, Elvis had a genuine talent and love of his trade and art, whereas Jackson hated his life, was a slave to his family and money men. All of Jackson's videos that I have seen are so cut and pasted (rather like his body and personality) that it's impossible for me at least to quantify or assess his ability and talent as opposed to the technical abilities of video editors and studio knob twidlers.
If you as an individual prefer surface to sustance than I guess Jackson is 'your man'. For my part, Elvis for all his selfishness and personal problems, was a truly gifted singer and a far superior 'artist' to Michael Jackson.
Totally disagree that it's an age thing, Lincs. I'm in my 60's and adore Tamala Motown , Stax and all the artists you mention. Have tickets for the O2 in March to pay homage to those still around.
However, Elvis has always left me cold- both his music and his persona in general. Could never understand why he was so revered . As Man_About_Town posted , there definitely was something about him that made me cringe.And as for that curling lip...yuck !
Michael Jackson had charisma in bucketloads as a young man ...surely that's an undisputable fact. Only HIS music has come close to TM / Soul for me. Not quoting any examples, but songs to sing along to ...songs to make the hairs on the back of your neck stand up and songs you'll remember the words to until your last breath. Dearly wish I had seen him live in concert in his heyday.
Jacko's music will live on through the younger generation and those still to appreciate music, far longer than Elvis' . Just ask my grandkids to name a MJ record and they'll say " Blame it on the Boogie " ( or the bogey as they used to say !) but as for Elvis...".who "?
Jacko's music will live on through the younger generation and those still to appreciate music, far longer than Elvis' . Just ask my grandkids to name a MJ record and they'll say " Blame it on the Boogie " ( or the bogey as they used to say !) but as for Elvis...".who "?
That is because you have subjected them to endless hours of this type 'pop' in the 'fanny' household........ a sort of brain washing really?
Each to his own Fanny, and as I am not into 'men' I will leave the comments there, but the guy inspired a look , and a classic look of the times, too me a bit like Marilyn, and James Dean. Before Presley there was no one, with the stage presence and his sun recordings are still some of the best and most original rock and roll put down. Well the Beatles and stones thought that, among a whole range of others. Like Jackson, Elvis was ruthlessley exploited and addicted to drugs, like so many performers. if you look at Jail house rock, the simple set and dance moves are still outstanding. And of course Micheal was a great artist in that medium.
My wife is into 'Tamla', especially Marvin and Smokey. Me I have always been a guitar/blues man. Shall we say we do not share many musical moments together, but ABC was on the jukebox at our first date , which my wife often reminds me of?. My kids know all the songs of Jimi Hendrix, because of my addiction. I wonder what my daughter will think when I play Frank Zappa in the car for the grandchildren this holiday time.
Funnily enough, Ken, I don't play much music these days ...prefer to listen to 5 Live so no brain washing from me.
My son & daughter , esp the latter , grew up with Motown and still play the music which I believe will continue to be loved by many for years to come. Magical, timeless stuff & I have to agree with your wife....At least someone in your household has good taste !
As for "each to his own Fanny" .....I can only say, thank goodness for that !
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Rather OTT, Lincs IMHO. I thought the question was about their music - not about their morals ...and that is if you believe everything you read. The 2 musicians in question were/are both hugely popular, each in their own way , hence the media interest over the years in EVERYTHING they did/did not do. How many other so called stars out there are whiter than white ? ( pardon the pun) For one, I judge an artist on the enjoyment I derive from listening to their music .
MJ wins hands down.
Guess that makes me a silly little girl
Depends what radio station you listen to, teenybopper stations play Jacko, grown up ones play both. Hillbilly, rockabilly, rock n roll, pop, country, gospel, showtunes from Elvis, pop and disco from Jacko. If your musical interest is narrow then maybe you don't like any Elvis songs, on the other hand you may not have actually heard many, I suspect the latter from your comment about the radio Jay?
There's something about Elvis that turns my stomach.....can't stand him, although he can sing. I can see why the ladies loved him, but not blokes.
Jacko was a great entertainer.....singer and dancer. Lincs, he did write somef his own stuff, in spite of waht you say in your rant post.
Jacko far, far superior
depends on your age .. for my part, as a BIG Tamla Motown fan, I always found the Jacksons false, Californiaised, manufactured, overmarketed and in total contrast to the great Detroit groups Like the 4 Tops, Temptations, Vandellas, Supremes etc etc as well as Philadelphia and Stax artists, Trammps, Sam & Dave, MGs for example.
MJ was exploited since he was a little boy until he died. The same is probably true of Elvis to a lesser extent, however, in my opinion, Elvis had a genuine talent and love of his trade and art, whereas Jackson hated his life, was a slave to his family and money men. All of Jackson's videos that I have seen are so cut and pasted (rather like his body and personality) that it's impossible for me at least to quantify or assess his ability and talent as opposed to the technical abilities of video editors and studio knob twidlers.
If you as an individual prefer surface to sustance than I guess Jackson is 'your man'. For my part, Elvis for all his selfishness and personal problems, was a truly gifted singer and a far superior 'artist' to Michael Jackson.
Elvis and Jackson have lots of imperfections, but Elvis, probably unwittingly at the time, mined the rich vein of music by black artists, and yes he stole, but he also brought recognition to such music which had been kept previously in a musical ghetto. In the context of his time and place there is no doubt thar Elvis was a groundbreaker.
And his voice? As the Velvets might say, at the right moment the Elvis voice at its best could get right in the 'centre of your head', he could on occasion produce a very special sound.
Jackson was a musical genius as well, but he had lots of shoulders to stand on, including Elvis, there remains still a modern thrilling sound about Jackson, a close call between the two then. Because of his groundbreaking impact I reckon Elvis wins by one goal.
But he never meant ****to me you see
Straight up racist that sucker was
Simple and plain
Mother **** him and John Wayne
The comments regarding Jackson are far more offensive.
Totally disagree that it's an age thing, Lincs. I'm in my 60's and adore Tamala Motown , Stax and all the artists you mention. Have tickets for the O2 in March to pay homage to those still around.
However, Elvis has always left me cold- both his music and his persona in general. Could never understand why he was so revered . As Man_About_Town posted , there definitely was something about him that made me cringe.And as for that curling lip...yuck !
Michael Jackson had charisma in bucketloads as a young man ...surely that's an undisputable fact. Only HIS music has come close to TM / Soul for me. Not quoting any examples, but songs to sing along to ...songs to make the hairs on the back of your neck stand up and songs you'll remember the words to until your last breath. Dearly wish I had seen him live in concert in his heyday.
Jacko's music will live on through the younger generation and those still to appreciate music, far longer than Elvis' . Just ask my grandkids to name a MJ record and they'll say " Blame it on the Boogie " ( or the bogey as they used to say !) but as for Elvis...".who "?
Funnily enough, Ken, I don't play much music these days ...prefer to listen to 5 Live so no brain washing from me.
My son & daughter , esp the latter , grew up with Motown and still play the music which I believe will continue to be loved by many for years to come. Magical, timeless stuff & I have to agree with your wife....At least someone in your household has good taste !
As for "each to his own Fanny" .....I can only say, thank goodness for that !