Yes Airman simple people treated like shit ---except when they want our votes---people who didnt cause this shit we are gona have to pay for it for generations---nice to see that you have the right attitude for political office. Just a thought maybe politicians would be thought of more highly if we werent lied to constantly and so often.:
* The EU will be cheaper in thelong run
* Nationalised industries cost us millions and are shit
* The "level playing field" of the free market
* The NHS is safe with The Tories
* "Labour isnt working"
* British industry was shit-- it wasnt and isnt
* 2 gulf wars and Afghanistan is "to make us safer"
* 2.5 million British jobs for British workers
* A vote of Europe ( Brown and Cameron)
* MPs expences
* 5 million mass immigration which wasnt happening for 13 years.
No simple answers but alot of lies PURE and SIMPLE. and thats your lot and the blue rabble.
I'm sure if there are people out there who have all the answers the public will support them. The evidence that you are not right is that the vast majority of people continue to vote for mainstream parties and only a relatively small number for alternatives like UKIP etc. Why is that, do you think, and is it not arrogant to believe that you are part of a privileged few who know better? The main parties dominate politics because most people vote for them, however inconvenient you may find that.
Even on the EU, where many people tells pollsters they would like to pull out, a majority won't vote for the explicitly anti-EU party. One reason is that deep down they know UKIP and the people to the right of them, along with those on the extreme left, are a bunch of cranks who couldn't run a whelk stall.
Where the Labour government failed us was in trying to be too tory and going against its political instincts and not regulating the banks, although the biggest culprits were the Americans. All these experts blaming Labour- please watch the brilliant American documentary film 'Inside Job' and learn something! Or maybe you can't be ar*sed to find the truth when you can read it in the mail or the sun! People like Mandelson and Blair are more Tory than some tories but, If anybody thinks we would not be in this mess if the tories were in power, they are being deluded. The fiscal management post crunch was handled excellently by Alistair Darling and we were seeing real growth which was the focus of their actions - the world proclaimed we were leading the way to recobery and the figures were supporting this - a fact people are conveniently choosing to forget!.
If people cast their minds back to the last election, all parties understood the need to make cuts but the Tories had a nail your colours to the mast policy that meant that should the economy falter they couldn't retreat or change tactics because they would lose the confidence of the ridiculously jittery markets. Labour were predicting these potential problems - double dip etc... It is true to say that if other factors worked for the government their policy would have worked/be working but its like steering a ship full ahead with no rudder and hoping it ends up where you want it too. It is a balancing act with growth having to be your driver and cutting VAT (at least temporarily) is an excellent tool for stimulating things.
As for the deficit - I do agree that Labour made an error during their second term of allowing the public sector to grow too large- by about 2005 they realised this and started to cut back. But the deficit is about paying out more than you are bringing in, if you bring in more the deficit is less of an issue. Before the crunch borrowing was far lower under labour than the tories before them. Labour made mistakes, some because they wanted to court the rich, some becausr they were a bit too socially ambitious but they and us didn't see the perfect storm that was about to envelop the world. They should have but as I said before, the reason they didn't was because they were trying to be TOO tory. Can anybody name a Tory who was warning the government that they needed to regulate the banks at the time? Vince Cable spotted the risk but he is a left leaning Liberal! There were also voices from the Labour party but the conservatives were markedly quiet on this issue.
Not saying it still wouldn't have been tough under labour but they would have had a rudder and I know we would be in a better place now. And they do now have a leader who is definitely not too Tory! More intelligent than his brother and definitely more socially aware and would make an excellent PM, but in these crazy modern times, not as good looking and with a grating voice to boot!
Comments
I'm sure if there are people out there who have all the answers the public will support them. The evidence that you are not right is that the vast majority of people continue to vote for mainstream parties and only a relatively small number for alternatives like UKIP etc. Why is that, do you think, and is it not arrogant to believe that you are part of a privileged few who know better? The main parties dominate politics because most people vote for them, however inconvenient you may find that.
Even on the EU, where many people tells pollsters they would like to pull out, a majority won't vote for the explicitly anti-EU party. One reason is that deep down they know UKIP and the people to the right of them, along with those on the extreme left, are a bunch of cranks who couldn't run a whelk stall.
If people cast their minds back to the last election, all parties understood the need to make cuts but the Tories had a nail your colours to the mast policy that meant that should the economy falter they couldn't retreat or change tactics because they would lose the confidence of the ridiculously jittery markets. Labour were predicting these potential problems - double dip etc... It is true to say that if other factors worked for the government their policy would have worked/be working but its like steering a ship full ahead with no rudder and hoping it ends up where you want it too. It is a balancing act with growth having to be your driver and cutting VAT (at least temporarily) is an excellent tool for stimulating things.
As for the deficit - I do agree that Labour made an error during their second term of allowing the public sector to grow too large- by about 2005 they realised this and started to cut back. But the deficit is about paying out more than you are bringing in, if you bring in more the deficit is less of an issue. Before the crunch borrowing was far lower under labour than the tories before them. Labour made mistakes, some because they wanted to court the rich, some becausr they were a bit too socially ambitious but they and us didn't see the perfect storm that was about to envelop the world. They should have but as I said before, the reason they didn't was because they were trying to be TOO tory. Can anybody name a Tory who was warning the government that they needed to regulate the banks at the time? Vince Cable spotted the risk but he is a left leaning Liberal! There were also voices from the Labour party but the conservatives were markedly quiet on this issue.
Not saying it still wouldn't have been tough under labour but they would have had a rudder and I know we would be in a better place now. And they do now have a leader who is definitely not too Tory! More intelligent than his brother and definitely more socially aware and would make an excellent PM, but in these crazy modern times, not as good looking and with a grating voice to boot!