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Players Marks: JPT: Charlton 0-3 Brentford

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  • Sullivan - 6
    Hughes - 4
    Taylor - 7
    Doherty - 5
    Evina - 7
    Green - 6
    Mikel (Alonso) - 4
    Stephens - 6
    Jackson - 7
    Hayes - 4.5
    Wagstaff - 5.5

    Morrison - 7
    Euell - 6
    Kermorgant - 6.5

  • Sullivan - 6.5 thought he looked solid and had no chance with the goals
    Hughes - 4 poor
    Taylor - 6 Missed his regular partner
    Doherty - 5 not his best
    Evina - 6.5 - some decent moments
    Green - 6 ok
    Mikel (Alonso) - 4 needs match fitness - could see signs that he could be an asset when up to speed but too much off the pace
    Stephens - 6 needed Hollands
    Jackson - 6.5 Solid enough
    Hayes - 5 battled gamely but no service and needed pace next to him
    Wagstaff - 5.5 battled but not very effective playing as a striker

    Morrison - 6 needed Taylor
    Euell - 6 looked one of our better players but a bit slow
    Kermorgant - 6.5 livened things up a bit - nice attempted lob

    Who really cares though - not bothered at all to be honest.
  • edited October 2011
    Sullivan - 4
    Hughes - 2 one for each pass to a red shirt.
    Taylor - 6
    Doherty - 3
    Evina -7 MOM
    Green - 6
    Mikel (Alonso) - 5
    Stephens - 6.5
    Jackson - 4.5 not a CM
    Hayes - 6
    Wagstaff - 6

    Morrison - 6
    Euell - 3
    Kermorgant - 6.5
    Powell - 5 needs to do more than sub players to change the game.
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    The clown who gave Alonso a 0 marking makes a mockery of this thread.



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    Oh I am sorry, I thought this was a thread for people to post their own views on how they judged players performances. Maybe I was a bit harsh marking him lower than hughes and Doc but that is my view. Cheers.

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    The clown who gave Alonso a 0 marking makes a mockery of this thread.



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    Oh I am sorry, I thought this was a thread for people to post their own views on how they judged players performances. Maybe I was a bit harsh marking him lower than hughes and Doc but that is my view. Cheers.

    No credit for the passes he did make, the moments of close control under pressure or the way he went looking for the ball?
  • Can't believe people are going as low as 3 for Alonso. He was poor but he wasn't THAT bad surely
  • And lost the ball through poor first touch or gave the ball away by not looking up or stopping running when players were passing to where he should have been running. Fair enough match fitness will tune him up and I was a bit harsh in saying he should not grace a football pitch again but I just paid a fiver to watch that and I actually felt like I had been mugged.

  • edited October 2011
    Sullivan 6
    Hughes 4
    Taylor 6
    Doherty 4
    Evina 7.5
    Green 6
    Mikel (Alonso) 4
    Stephens 5
    Jackson 5
    Hayes 6
    Wagstaff 5
    Morrison 7
    Euell 5.5
    Kermorgant 6 
  • I watched Location,Location,Location.
    We dont do cup games
  • Watching on TV:

    Sullivan - 5 - Positioning looked off to me tonight, seemed to be getting his angles wrong on a few occassions.
    Hughes - 3 - All the underhit passes of a stereotypical Francis performance (+ some) with none of the attacking adventure.
    Taylor - 4 - Slightly better than Doc but partially at fault for their first goal and spent the first half getting in Doc's way.
    Doherty - 3 - Two weak clearing headers contributing to goals conceded, off the pace, second to most loose balls and in Taylor's way all first half. Doc has been a good, solid honest pro and don't doubt he ever tries anything but his best. I have a lot of respect for him for that, but I've seen more mobile oak trees and it's time Doc was put out to pasture. Really hope we don't have to use him in the league, even a raw Mambo has to be ahead of him in the pecking order now.
    Evina - 7 MOM -  Like this kid, he's got drive and energy, can carry the ball and cross and also looks very compotent defensively. Would be first choice at most clubs in our divisions, imo.
    Green - 5 - Not much came off for him, but he looked as likely to spark something as any of our sideways forwards. his passing got loose and wasteful as the game wore on though and he seemed to get frustrated,
    Mikel (Alonso) - 5 - horribly off the pace first half but improved. Nasty error for the pen, but hints in the second half he may have something about him but played too slow and indirect tonight, really, to make anything happen from midfield.
    Stephens - 5 - struggled to get into the game without Hollands next to him.
    Jackson - 4 - Was he playing?
    Hayes - 6 - would have been 5 but he gets a sympathy point because he was trying and didn't receive a decent pass all night - also only had to look at their centre backs to concede a free kick. Not a lone striker.
    Wagstaff - 5 - Huffed and puffed but no quality from him apart from one nice shot. I have a lot of time for Waggy and he's come on a lot since his debut, but if he wants to push on from here he needs to start influencing games more in terms of creativity.
    Morrison - 6 - improved the defence when he came on by marking the areas that Doc wasn't.
    Euell - 4.5
    Kermorgant - 5
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  • edited October 2011
    The half time pie 7/10. It was pretty good. They ran out of chicken curry pies so opted for the steak pie instead and was pleasantly surprised.
  • Sullivan - 5 - let in 3 goals, made 1 good save but some dodgy positioning
    Hughes - 2.5 - why did we sign him, not worthy of a place on the bench for me. Shocking game
    Taylor - 5 - not great today, but not bothered because he's been awesome in the league... a JPT performance
    Doherty - 2 - masterclass...... pay him off now. 
    Evina - 6.5 - best of a bad set of performances tonight - good cover for Wiggins
    Green - 6 - some glimpses of brilliance, some moments of madness (booking, shot near the end), bit of an in and out performance. He will get better and play a big part this season - the x factor
    Alonso - 4.5 - poor game, but first game. I have faith he will come good
    Stephens - 5.5 - missed Hollands. a JPT performance
    Jackson - 5 - poor game
    Wagstaff - 5 - didn't see too much of the ball, great strike 2nd half, but generally poor from waggy today
    Hayes - 5 - missed BWP - I think Kermit is pushing for a 1st team place

    Morrison - 6 - solid enough
    Euell - 4 - not worthy of a place on the bench atm - second touch is a tackle
    Kermorgant - 5 - not great but seemed to have a bit of a presence about him, woeful free kick. 

  • sullivan 4

    hughes 3 just not goodenough

    taylor 4

    doherty3 A season to many, he is terrible wiyh the ball at his feet, and his heading was woefull

    evina4 at least he improved in second half

    green 4 is not better than wagstaff, have seen him in last two cup games, does not seem that good.

    alonso 4 poor, saw him against carshalton bad then has not improved

    stephens 4 bad night

    jakson 5 night off

    wagstaff 5 tried very hard did not get any service from hayes

    hayes 4 poor

    morrison 5 ok just

    euell 5 at least he improved the teams passing game

    kermogant 5 tried very hard.

  • Sullivan - 5
    Hughes - 4
    Taylor - 6
    Doherty - 4
    Evina - 6.5
    Green - 6
    Mikel (Alonso) - 4
    Stephens - 6
    Jackson - 5.5
    Hayes - 5.5
    Wagstaff - 6

    Morrison - 6
    Euell - 5
    Kermorgant - 6



  • edited October 2011
    Sullivan - 6.5
    Hughes - 5

    Taylor - 5
    Doherty - 3
    Evina - 7

    Green - 6.5
    Mikel (Alonso) - 5
    Stephens - 5.5
    Jackson - 5.5
    Hayes - 6
    Wagstaff - 5.5

    Morrison - 6
    Euell - 4.5
    Kermorgant - 6
  • Sullivan- 6
    Hughes- 6
    Taylor- 5
    Doherty- 3
    Evina- 7
    Green- 7
    Mikel (Alonso)- 5.5
    Stephens- 5.5
    Jackson- 5.5
    Hayes- 6
    Wagstaff- 6

    Morrison- 6
    Euell- 5
    Kermorgant- 6.5
  • Sullivan   6
    Hughes   3
    Taylor    6
    Doherty   3
    Evina   8
    Green   5
    Mikel (Alonso)   3
    Stephens     5
    Jackson    5
    Hayes     5
    Wagstaff    4

    Morrison    6
    Euell       3
    Kermorgant    6

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    Sullivan  6 No chance with goals looked sound

    Hughes  5 Didn't play well , I'm glad we signed him as a versatile player on the bench now the 5 subs rule has been implimented.

    Taylor  6 Looked sound but didn't gel well with the Doc

    Doherty 5 Taylor does not compliment him at all in a similar way that Llera didn't last season . Unlike many on here I like the Doc but accept he will probably go on loan now once Cort returns.Disappointing .

    Evina 7 Best player in a bad team . Unlucky that Wiggins is playing so well .What is it about left backs , it has been a problem for us over the last two seasons , now we have two great prospects . Maybe he could be our impact Left Midfielder so I think he has a key role to play at some stage this season.

    Green - 6 Had his moments , average

    Mikel (Alonso) - 5 Forget his bro , Mikel himself has played in La Liga and the Premiership , I think and hope he will come good .He looked well below match fitness . Now he has made his debut he will not be Cory Gibbs , lets hope he plays again so does not get remembered like Karim Bagheri or Omar Pouso

    Stephens 6 Didn't get involved as much

    Jackson  6 Not one of his better games but still took good dead ball kicks.

    Hayes  5 Didn't offer much

    Wagstaff 6 Extra mark for workrate



    Morrison - 6 Competent but no more
    Euell - 5 Another player like Doc and Hughes who i can't seeing starting many but is a good option from the bench , might be a good loan option for someone like AFC Wombles with a 24 hour release clause after the first month.
    Kermorgant - 6 Looked more potent than the others.

  • Sullivan 6
    Hughes 5
    Taylor 6
    Doherty 5
    Evina 6.5
    Green 6
    Mikel (Alonso) 5
    Stephens 6
    Jackson 6
    Hayes 6
    Wagstaff 6


    Morrison 6
    Euell 5
    Kermorgant 6
  • Sullivan 6

    Hughes 3 Looked dreadful

    Taylor 5

    Doherty 4

    Evina 6

    Green 6

    Mikel (Alonso) 3 looked well of the pace, I'm sure he will improve though

    Stephens

    Jackson

    Hayes

    Wagstaff



    Morrison

    Euell

    Kermorgant
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  • edited October 2011
    Sullivan 6 not at fault for any goal
    Hughes 4 not impressed and didn't step up as you'd expect an old pro to do
    Taylor 5 strolled thru the one half but did little wrong
    Doherty 3 Even worse than some of the displays last year
    Evina  6  Showed some nice touches but can't be expected to play on his own
    Green 4  Crosses woeful and corners into side netting.  Isn't that meant to be his strong point?  Wears the halo
    Mikel (Alonso) 3  so off the pace it was embarrassing.  TBF to him didn't hide
    Stephens 5 another first teamer who strolled thru the one half he knew was all he had to do
    Jackson 6  Tried to get the passing going and did link up with Waggy and Evina
    Hayes 6.5  Isolated but anything positive involved him.  Not a lone striker
    Wagstaff  4.5  Not good but played three different positions and best shot of game was his. Wears the horns

    Morrison  5  Stroll
    Euell  5.5  Added a bit more energy but hardly saw the ball
    Kermorgant 5 Willing runner but touch well off.  Should have played Waggy (who was in acres of space) in near the end but blazed over.

    Not reading anything into this.  Was a typical Curbs era cup game where we played at 80% and the oppo played at 100%.   Players saw it as a game to get thru unhurt and unbooked which we nearly did.

    Only problem was the Covered End was closed so some ruffians from there were sitting behind us.  : - )
  • Sullivan - 5
    Hughes - 4
    Taylor - 5
    Doherty - 4
    Evina - 6
    Green - 5.5
    Mikel
    (Alonso) - 4
    Stephens 5.5
    Jackson - 5
    Hayes - 5.5
    Wagstaff - 4.5

    Morrison - 5.5
    Euell - 5
    Kermorgant - 5.5
  • Sullivan 5
    Hughes 2
    Taylor 5
    Doherty 3
    Evina 6
    Green 4
    Mikel (Alonso) 3
    Stephens 5
    Jackson 4.5
    Hayes 4.5
    Wagstaff 4.5

    Morrison 5
    Euell 4
    Kermorgant 5
  • Off the telly:

    Sullivan 6 hard to blame him for anything
    Hughes 4 very poor
    Taylor 5 worst game in the shirt

    Doherty 3 error strewn
    Evina 6.5 hopefully will get some proper gametime
    Green 5 did nothing

    Mikel (Alonso) 3 poor
    Stephens 5 without Hollands taking up intelligent position he looked a lot weaker than I imagine
    Jackson 4 a floating role is not his thing

    Hayes 6 Isolated, offered llittle threat
    Wagstaff 5 Playing out of position but kept the work rate up without offering much

    Morrison 6
    Euell 5
    Kermorgant 6

  • Sullivan - 5 - Awful kicking, at fault (along with doc) for first goal

    Hughes - 4 - Dire

    Taylor - 6

    Doherty - 3 - really dire, at fault for first andn ddin;t do anything right all game, 3 is generous

    Evina - 6.5 - The ONLY +VE of last ngiht

    Green - 6 - still doesn't look 100%, wierd having a winger who hugs the line so much, navalty almost

    Mikel (Alonso) - 3 - Oh dear oh dear oh dear, won't hold it against him not played or trained much, will surely improve 

    Stephens - 6 - didn't do anything wrong but equally didn't influence 

    Jackson - 5 - not the right attitude from the club captain, looked very disinterested

    Hayes - 5 - Not at the races, confidence looked little shot to shit, awful touch or as above wrong attitude

    Wagstaff - 5 - Hmmm at least he looked like he was trying, was kicked ten bells out of though by brenford players



    Morrison - 6 - Solid and mobile, will be future club captain i reckon

    Euell - 5

    Kermorgant - 5
  • edited October 2011
    Sullivan: 6 - He did ok, wasn't to blame for any goal, good back-up goalie.
    Hughes: 3 - Shocking. Far too slow, looks past it to me. He got ripped up. I'd rather Jordan Cousins at right back than him.
    Taylor: 6 - He didn't do a lot wrong. Hard to play with Hughes one side and Doherty on the other.
    Doherty: 2 - Just terrible. So slow it's painful to watch. Shouldn't play for the first team the rest of the season. Surely got a young player better than that.
    Evina: 6.5 - I was very impressed. really quick, good touch about him too. At 19, he has a lot of potential.
    Green: 6 - Had some nice touches. The team was disjointed last night, in the regular team, he could be very effective.
    Alonso: 5.5 - Some nice passing there. He looked painfully short of match fitness, he looked absolutely knackered. When he's 100 he will be good.
    Stephens: 5 - Ineffective last night. Think Powell told him just to do nothing wrong (e.g don't get booked or get a knock).
    Jackson: 6 - He did ok. Was one of the players who didn't give it 100% last night, understandably.
    Hayes: 5 - Not a lone striker. He got very little support and didn't get any chances really, not his fault.
    Wagstaff: 5 - He was another one that was pretty average. He'll run all day but he lacks that extra bit of quality. Would have Green in place of him at right midfield.

    Morrison: 6 - Solid, even with that calamity of a defence around him.
    Euell: 4 - Hasn't impressed me this season one bit. Personally, I think he's passed it and we need a fourth choice striker with pace.
    Kermorgant: 5 - He looked good when he came on. Has that little bit of flair, which is impressive in a big man. I think, when he gets to 100% fitness, that he'll start ahead of Hayes. Good striker at this level.
  • edited October 2011
    Sullivan 6
    Hughes 3 Looked awful
    Taylor 6
    Doherty 4.5
    Evina 6
    Green 5
    Mikel (Alonso) 3 Worse than awful
    Stephens 6
    Jackson 6
    Hayes 6
    Wagstaff 6

    Morrison 6
    Euell 5
    Kermorgant 6



  • Sullivan 6 no fault for the goals.  looked more comfortable on the ball than last season
    Hughes 3 Awful performance.  No pace, plenty of passes into the crowd. Looked mega rusty but not a patch on Francis
    Taylor 5 Showed how a steady partnership can improve a player.  Looked a bit lost alongside Doc
    Doherty 2 Embarassing to be honest.  Doddery, slow, usual assortment of headers straigh down the middle to the opposition in the danger zone
    Evina 7 MOM for me.  Looked lively.  Handled Weston very well considering hes the danger man
    Green 6 Flashy but needs game time.  Sily booking again.  Needs to remember that the reason he is not in the team is because he was suspended from day 1 and Waggy took his chance.  No good to us if he is constantly suspended
    Mikel (Alonso) 4 First 25-30 mins was worthy of a zero but improved thereafter.  Didn't hide from the ball and managed 90 mins when clearly unfit.  Could certainly play a part later in the season.
    Stephens 5.5 Needed this game like a hole in the head.  Looks leggy and in need of a breather to be honest - has done for a couple of weeks
    Jackson 5.5 Not really involved.  I get the impression Powelly said "Go out and just don't get injured" to a few regulars
    Hayes 3 I'm fed up with him.  Yes he runs around a lot but never seems to be in the right place at the right time.  Seems physically incapable of jumping.  Has no pace.  Poor reactions.  Occasional nice flick but then 9/10 times his first touch is beyond shambolic.  Kermit deserves a run
    Wagstaff 4 Can play behind a striker but last night it just didn't work.  Rest time I think - impact sub for a few games whilst Greenie has a run.

    Morrison 6.5 shored up the defence and looked solid enough.
    Euell 4 Forgot he came on
    Kermorgant 6 Was a 7 until he took that free kick.  Quite possibly the worst free kick I have witnessed in my 35 years.  Looks like a very decent player though and with BWP making intelligent runs could be a potent strikeforce



    all in all I am not fussed about the result but it was a disappointing performance.  The team that beat Reading earlier in the season was younger, hungrier and faster - the players that stepped in last night (Evina excluded) were older, slow and significantly less fit.  Not concerned about the strength in depth as I'm sure they were told not to get injured - but I do think it shows we could really use a reserve team playing week in week out as the occasionaly "development" games aren't giving enough people quality game time
  • edited October 2011
    Sullivan 6
    Hughes 5
    Taylor 6
    Doherty 4
    Evina 7
    Green 7
    Mikel (Alonso) 4
    Stephens 7
    Jackson 6
    Hayes 6
    Wagstaff 6

    Morrison 6.5
    Euell 4
    Kermorgant 6.5
  • From the telly
    Sullivan - 6
    Hughes - 4
    Taylor - 5
    Doherty - 5
    Evina - 7
    Green - 6
    Mikel (Alonso) - 4
    Stephens - 5
    Jackson - 5.5
    Hayes - 6
    Wagstaff - 6

    Morrison - 6
    Euell - 5
    Kermorgant - 5.5.
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