Anyone see the Islamic protest outside the US embassy yesterday? The only footage on tv of arrests was the OB nicking EDL. How on earth did OB allow this protest to go ahead when they wouldn't allow the EDL one in Tower Hamlets the other week?
It really is a joke, america and the rest of the world must really think we have no backbone. If i had a family member who'd died in the attacks, and on the 10th anniversary of the events i see these barbaric pricks, then i'd completely lose it, as it is their actions make me embarrased and disgusted as much as anything.
I'm surprised no ones commented on this before folev. Can you imagine the American police allowing an Islamic protest outside the uk embassy in new York on the anniversary of July 7?
I don't see the problem - plod and the security services film them all, follow them and keep them under surveillance. They'll all have been identified and put on a list.
It really is a joke, america and the rest of the world must really think we have no backbone. If i had a family member who'd died in the attacks, and on the 10th anniversary of the events i see these barbaric pricks, then i'd completely lose it, as it is their actions make me embarrased and disgusted as much as anything.
I'm surprised no ones commented on this before folev. Can you imagine the American police allowing an Islamic protest outside the uk embassy in new York on the anniversary of July 7?
It wasnt that long ago (3 years maybe?) that Americans were in outrage over a mosque being built in the vicinity of ground zero let alone have a protest.
I think we are just weak as a society against this sort of thing. Yesterday someone on my facebook put "10 years ago today 20 martyrs gave their lives against American imperialism. Unfortunately 3000 lives were lost. Long may America get its nose bloodied" was an acceptable status update. He had more "likes" than people who told him otherwise
The way i see it, the longer we spend not addressing these issues 'properly' now, the grimmer the future looks for this country.
If the government doesn't start showing the public that they will not tolerate such acts, there is a strong possibility in my opinion of serious public retaliation in the future. We've seen in norway that it only takes one nutter to cause absolute mayhem. Who knows if someone out there is plotting what they believe to be revenge? Imagine how much worse the situation would be if some guy decides to go and blow up a mosque in retaliation.
I don't see the problem - plod and the security services film them all, follow them and keep them under surveillance. They'll all have been identified and put on a list.
I was up town on Sunday with the wife kids and another family for the Thames festival, we went to the US embassy to watch the ceremony and spend a moment in reflection, as my son was just a couple of months old when the world changed, these muslim freaks that had turned up to impose their hatred upon the people who wanted to show respect got what they deserrved a good fecking shoeing, not just from EDL (if thats who they were) but some nice big burly US marines who were off duty (allegedly)
The moment this scum burned the US flag i wouldve shot them
gilbertfilbert I think that although it is only a tiny minority of the public, there is still an element of hate towards Islam by some individuals. The protests on sunday, and stuff like the poppy burning last year is only going to cause more friction amongst the small minority like the edl and the most radicals muslims, on a social basis. Like i said, all it takes is for some madman to completely misinterpret the situation with the majority the Muslims, and who knows if he'll decide to take matters into his own hands?
Anyone see the Islamic protest outside the US embassy yesterday? The only footage on tv of arrests was the OB nicking EDL. How on earth did OB allow this protest to go ahead when they wouldn't allow the EDL one in Tower Hamlets the other week?
Although it is freedom of speech it is also inciting violence. Quite a tough one but surely burning the flag on 11th September is as big a crime as burning the Qur'an.
It's not a case of 2 wrongs making anything other than a mess but you can't let one group of extremists have their little street party and deny the other one. It's called the freedom of speech. As much as I detest right-wing fascist groups being allowed to spout their poison, they have as much right as these muslims. What we must remember though is that both of these group are minorities and do not represent the views of the majority of their race/community.
In seriousness though, most of us don't like either of the groups protesting but if you have laws to stop their freedom of speech, then by the time you notice that it impinges on your freedom of speech its too late to do anything about it.
This wasnt a "protest" it was incitement. They chose that day to INCITE. The EDL (and all marches) were banned for 30 days in Tower Hamlets a few weeks back so why wasnt this bunch of scum banned from doing their "protest" ?
Remember when they burned the poppies ? we had to wait till Obill got off their arses and nicked em and then they got a £50 fine ------no worries that will be taken out of their benefits. £50 quid.
These protesters are vile hate mongers who tried to whip up more hate as they think it will help them further their cause. They burn flags and poppies because they know it will get them publicity and stoke the fires. Thankfully most people, muslims or not, have no time for them.
I despise them in just the same way I despise the match fixing thugs in the EDL who are just the other side of the same coin.
I don't see the problem - plod and the security services film them all, follow them and keep them under surveillance. They'll all have been identified and put on a list.
Like they care about a list
This lot are trying to impose there Shaira Law in Walthm Forest and not is being done about it as soon as someone says anything the race card is used and the good old powers at be step back
This lot are trying to impose there Shaira Law in Walthm Forest and not is being done about it as soon as someone says anything the race card is used and the good old powers at be step back
"Dozens of posters had been put up — quickly removed by the council — insisting: "You are entering a Shariah controlled zone — Islamic rules enforced."
So story is that a few radicals make a declaration that a bit of WF is now an Muslim state (shades of Wolfie in Tooting). They put up some posters. The Council takes them down. Everyone says they're a bunch of dicks and not worth taking much notice of. How does that fit in with what you say - nobody is doing anything about it and the powers that be step back because of the race card (whatever that is)?
These idiots want a reaction. That's all they want. They want non-Mulsims to hate Muslims and for that to spark a big fight. They're not much different to the EDF in that way. Unfortunately too many people are falling for it.
I am surprised such a demo was allowed (if it was) on such a day, it seem highly inflamatory and likely to cause problems, aren't there rules about this?
I have no issue with them demonstrating or even counter demonstrating, neither of which were appropriate for that day which was one of remembrance, just seems like common sense to me, and the Police I think I'm right in saying can veto demos
I think sharia law is already practiced in the UK something which I find bizzarre personally, not only is it wrong to do this on so many counts, but it also adds fuel to any anti muslim feelings.
This lot are trying to impose there Shaira Law in Walthm Forest and not is being done about it as soon as someone says anything the race card is used and the good old powers at be step back
"Dozens of posters had been put up — quickly removed by the council — insisting: "You are entering a Shariah controlled zone — Islamic rules enforced."
So story is that a few radicals make a declaration that a bit of WF is now an Muslim state (shades of Wolfie in Tooting). They put up some posters. The Council takes them down. Everyone says they're a bunch of dicks and not worth taking much notice of. How does that fit in with what you say - nobody is doing anything about it and the powers that be step back because of the race card (whatever that is)?
These idiots want a reaction. That's all they want. They want non-Mulsims to hate Muslims and for that to spark a big fight. They're not much different to the EDF in that way. Unfortunately too many people are falling for it.
Sharia law in the UK is a form of arbitration, it is not a criminal code. Both parties have to accept that the arbitration is binding on them. It is no different to any other form of dispute resolution between two different. They can use sharia law, French law, a toss of a coin whatever.
And this isnt a Muslim country. Why should there be any sort of sharia law ? because its the British /English way of tolerance ? how strange the left trot that old bollox out when they want but hate any other form of "British/Englishness"
few years back local OBill released two muggers how happened to be Somali not charged -- they would be dealt with under sharia law --- Woolwiich --- on how loverly.
Some on here want to wake up and smell the coffee-------------------15 years ago no one had herd of a burkha----- shira laws-----wouldnt know what hallal meant. Take a walk round woolwich have a look at Kidbrooke school---or walk down the Old Kent road, round wembley etc.
The old NF and the BNP didnt get 100 people of any sort of march etc the EDL get 1000/2000 yet they are all neo facist -- nazi ? get a naffing life, stick ur political red flag up ur arse as we wave good bye to what was once England.
John Clease that well know neo facist / EDl leader etc said London isnt an English city anymore and he is slatted for it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And this isnt a Muslim country. Why should there be any sort of sharia law ? because its the British /English way of tolerance ? how strange the left trot that old bollox out when they want but hate any other form of "British/Englishness"
few years back local OBill released two muggers how happened to be Somali not charged -- they would be dealt with under sharia law --- Woolwiich --- on how loverly.
Some on here want to wake up and smell the coffee-------------------15 years ago no one had herd of a burkha----- shira laws-----wouldnt know what hallal meant. Take a walk round woolwich have a look at Kidbrooke school---or walk down the Old Kent road, round wembley etc.
The old NF and the BNP didnt get 100 people of any sort of march etc the EDL get 1000/2000 yet they are all neo facist -- nazi ? get a naffing life, stick ur political red flag up ur arse as we wave good bye to what was once England.
John Clease that well know neo facist / EDl leader etc said London isnt an English city anymore and he is slatted for it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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It wasnt that long ago (3 years maybe?) that Americans were in outrage over a mosque being built in the vicinity of ground zero let alone have a protest.
I think we are just weak as a society against this sort of thing. Yesterday someone on my facebook put "10 years ago today 20 martyrs gave their lives against American imperialism. Unfortunately 3000 lives were lost. Long may America get its nose bloodied" was an acceptable status update. He had more "likes" than people who told him otherwise
If the government doesn't start showing the public that they will not tolerate such acts, there is a strong possibility in my opinion of serious public retaliation in the future.
We've seen in norway that it only takes one nutter to cause absolute mayhem. Who knows if someone out there is plotting what they believe to be revenge? Imagine how much worse the situation would be if some guy decides to go and blow up a mosque in retaliation.
I think its called "free speech" - been around for quite a few years in the UK apparently.
They get to have their say, we take no notice and the world moves on. Better than the alternative, that's for sure.
Maybe you might prefer life in China? They are not too big on protests there.
I was up town on Sunday with the wife kids and another family for the Thames festival, we went to the US embassy to watch the ceremony and spend a moment in reflection, as my son was just a couple of months old when the world changed, these muslim freaks that had turned up to impose their hatred upon the people who wanted to show respect got what they deserrved a good fecking shoeing, not just from EDL (if thats who they were) but some nice big burly US marines who were off duty (allegedly)
The moment this scum burned the US flag i wouldve shot them
SCUM absolute SCUM
London News on ITV reported 'a fight between 40 men on Edgware Road'.
No mention that the two stabbed men flown to hospital were EDL supporters.
Have also given up with BBC London now as all their reporting on their Drivetime show is just propaganda.
I think that although it is only a tiny minority of the public, there is still an element of hate towards Islam by some individuals. The protests on sunday, and stuff like the poppy burning last year is only going to cause more friction amongst the small minority like the edl and the most radicals muslims, on a social basis.
Like i said, all it takes is for some madman to completely misinterpret the situation with the majority the Muslims, and who knows if he'll decide to take matters into his own hands?
Build a bonfire, build a bonfire.....
Mass gathering inciting violence??
In seriousness though, most of us don't like either of the groups protesting but if you have laws to stop their freedom of speech, then by the time you notice that it impinges on your freedom of speech its too late to do anything about it.
I despise them in just the same way I despise the match fixing thugs in the EDL who are just the other side of the same coin.
Like they care about a list
This lot are trying to impose there Shaira Law in Walthm Forest and not is being done about it as soon as someone says anything the race card is used and the good old powers at be step back
You mean this story?
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/features/3718799/London-suburb-put-under-Sharia-law.html
"Dozens of posters had been put up — quickly removed by the council — insisting: "You are entering a Shariah controlled zone — Islamic rules enforced."
So story is that a few radicals make a declaration that a bit of WF is now an Muslim state (shades of Wolfie in Tooting). They put up some posters. The Council takes them down. Everyone says they're a bunch of dicks and not worth taking much notice of. How does that fit in with what you say - nobody is doing anything about it and the powers that be step back because of the race card (whatever that is)?
These idiots want a reaction. That's all they want. They want non-Mulsims to hate Muslims and for that to spark a big fight. They're not much different to the EDF in that way. Unfortunately too many people are falling for it.
I have no issue with them demonstrating or even counter demonstrating, neither of which were appropriate for that day which was one of remembrance, just seems like common sense to me, and the Police I think I'm right in saying can veto demos
Some great quotes from locals in that article.
on how Sharia courts work in UK