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New Five Sub Rule

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  • My apologies, mis-understood the ruling, thought it meant you could make 5 changes which I would be totally against. Having 5 subs and able to change 3 seems ok to me. Still wouldn't allow any subs in the last 5 mins however.
  • Still wouldn't allow any subs in the last 5 mins however.
    Even if there was an injury?

    Seems unfair to one team that they would be forced to play (at a time of the match when they are physically tiring) the last 5 minutes plus added time, with only 10 men.
  • My apologies, mis-understood the ruling, thought it meant you could make 5 changes which I would be totally against. Having 5 subs and able to change 3 seems ok to me. Still wouldn't allow any subs in the last 5 mins however.
    Don't have a problem with late subs because it can work as much for you as against you. What I do have a problem with is the time it takes players to leave the field whilst they applaud their fans. Yellow card them and double the usual 1 minute extra time? that is allowed per substitution at present.
  • I think we would've have benefited from having 7 on the bench this year as we have that kind of quality in our squad but we can't fit it on the bench with only 5 subs.
  • I just think that making a sub in the last five minutes is invariably used as a time wasting measure as he is unlikely to influence the game to any degree and they never add on enough time to cover it. I take the point about an injury but how many late subs are due to that? Not a lot I would suspect.
  • No team timewastes if they are losing, Phil.
  • I agree, but most of the time it's the losing team making the late sub for no other reason than to waste time. Would just like to see it stopped somehow.
  • Powell did say at the VIP event last week at the Valley that he expected seven subs to return next season and there might be a U21 stipulation with it .
    Seems Bristol City have confirmed this (don't know about any u21 rule though)
  • It's being voted on at the Football League AGM later this month for the return of 7 subs or up to 7 subs. Good for the younger players if clubs vote it back.
  • I agree, but most of the time it's the losing team making the late sub for no other reason than to waste time. Would just like to see it stopped somehow.
    Why would a team that is losing want to waste time?
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  • Back to seven subs for this coming season.
  • I'm on my own on this, but I think there was more skill to the manager's job when they had a couple of subs to work with and didn't have half the squad farting around on the bench.
  • Back to seven subs for this coming season.
    Is that confirmed?

    Good thing for us but do agree with Morti
  • Back to seven subs for this coming season.
    Is that confirmed?

    Good thing for us but do agree with Morti


    BREAKING NEWS: ‪#FootballLeague‬ clubs have voted to return to 7 subs next season following proposals from Birmingham City & Derby County
  • Hope it includes x number of u21s
  • I'm on my own on this, but I think there was more skill to the manager's job when they had a couple of subs to work with and didn't have half the squad farting around on the bench.
    You may say skill, but ultimately it can be luck. Should you choose a defender, midfielder and striker and your three and hope that your Goalie doesnt get injured? Why not have the options to change the game, have a couple of midfielders, a defensice and an attacking one, a couple of different defenders and a couple of strikers to manage the game accordingly. The old three sub rule was fine at the time, but as soon as having 5 or 7 options became available, the 'jack of all trades' type players - who are ultimately not very good in any position - find their real level and the standard of football seen by the fans improves.

    Agree with WSS though that I hope there is a set number of U21 players - logically the extra two seats on the bench.

  • I think it is the way football has progressed and the reasons for going down to 5 were financial not nostalgic or for the betterment of the game due to some teams having the embaressment of not being able to fill their allocation/ or not being able to afford an extra room in the travel Inn! All in all, it is better for the game to have 7 - it gives you more of a chance to blood new players for a start!
  • Definitely good for us. Last season there were times where the likes of Hughes/Wagstaff/Pritchard couldn't even make the bench, so it keeps more of the squad involved. It also allows the opportunity to keep young players on the bench, and if we're ever 3-0 up and comfortable at home to Barnsley with 30 minutes left, what a great chance to give younger players a run-out. Players like Ade Azeez.
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