Well not my boss, my boss's boss's boss. But he just flipped the lid about something that I should debatebaly have done. I accept that in his world I should have been flagging up any problems but equally all I've done is rubber stamped things that his boss is OKing. t thought his boss was sentient and understood what he was agreeing to. He's demanded to see me tomorrow doubtlessly with the hope that it'll expand his napoleon-dick to whale on someone that's not going to give it back.
Specifically: I don't have much respect for the little fat bitch or the company I work for. If it comes to a fight I'll knock fuck out of him. I have to give three months' notice. I've recently (twice) been promoted and now look after a team of 15 or so people.
I don't like the company much but they give me the opportunity to work in Edinburgh when I want which suits me as my dad recently passed away, and I want to support my mum, but my feeling is that I should find a job working for a company that aren;t c*unts. What does the forum think?
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(then whisper MCS to get him to print 5,000 business cards, offering his/her sexual favours at very low prices and distribute in phone boxes as you see fit. better still, get MCS to post the design on here and the c/life community will make sure they go global.)
Maybe worth weighing up all the pros and cons of the job.
If you still want the job even in the short term then rather getting into a blame session make a list of all the things that went wrong (including any errors you might have made).
Then suggest solutions to them. New systems or checks, clarify responsibilities etc.
Try and stay in 'adult' and keep saying to yourself 'what would a good manager do?'
If not just smile and walk away. Good luck
The only solution to this is the 'Fight Club' approach.
Make sure enough people know that he has already had a go at you, tell them how worried you are about this meeting, then once inside his office stand in front of the door so he can't get out and then punch yourself in the face a few times.
Result = him fired + you getting sympathy promotion + exclusive access to secret club
At the risk of being Mr Boring, it's very easy to tell someone else to resign, but probably the best thing to do is to let him say his piece, correct him on any factual errors, but basically just take it and move on.
Hitting him with a chair might feel great briefly, but career wise in probably not a great move.
At the end of the day Morts, you really should have been checking who's phones they were hacking.
sh1t happens and sometimes you carry the can (there will be a lot of can carrying go on in the media world soon !)seems to me you work for a big/gish company and part of the system is the chain of buck passing (even more of that going on in media and politics right now)...bite your tongue ,smile ,keep your dignity and move on ...you may even be smiling about the whole thing in a weeks time
count yr blessings/loved ones/ family/football team ... when you get home to add some perspective
do you think Iain Dowie got screamed at by RM when the reality of his purchases dawned ?...no he just got a nice juicy paid up contract!
One of the best responses to a previous boss shouting at a colleague was this:-
Boss: (in open office in front of everyone) SHOUT, RANT, FINGER POINTING, SHOUT, RANT!
Colleague: (looking around, left and right)
Boss: (Calming down, a bit) What are you doing?
Colleague: I'm looking for the dog you're shouting at, becasue you cannot be addressing me, surely!!
It all depends on who you work for... if a big organisation, you might want to check your company's employee policies regarding mutual respect, performance measurement and greivence policies, and once he has ranted suggest that the sentiment may have been correct but the tone and approach was completely unacceptable, and then refer the situation to your hr dept. if nothing else, you can protect yourself against future occurences and potential unfair dismissal. Don't walk until you have something lined up.
Then, when he is not looking, take him down, rip his tongue out and shove it up his ass.
having spent a couple of years a while back working for a very shouty manager my advice would be to listen and listen carefully.
simply because when people like that rant they generally get things wrong. An angry mind is rarely a coherent one. Listen, pick up on where they went wrong then... calmly, sensibly pick apart what they have moaned about. It is satisfying for you, demoralising for the shouty one and also has the effect of sowing the seed that perhaps their way of working was not necessarily the best way forward.
Win the lottery first.
Tell 'em to stick their job second.
The meeting was pretty horrific, it was more of a 15 minute rant about why my conduct over the first 6 months of the year was unprofessional and disappointing. Only at high volume with some swearing in between. He looked rather ridiculous and I did wonder if he thought it was supposed to be frightening. He rounded it all off with an uplifting message about how I was the strongest guy in the team and he knew that I could work to turn around my performance in the second half of the year. He then offered me 60 seconds to put my point. I thanked him for his input and told him that as long as I was there I'd continue to try and do the correct thing. Anything that I had done that he'd not liked was explicitly signed off by his boss. I told him that I'd taken that as enough, but if he had different expectations then I'd seek to meet them going forward. I also pointed out that I'd personally delivered 50% of his key target (I work in a department of around 40 people) and that I'd additionally taken over team responsibilities - taking my group from 3 to 6 to 15 over the period. For no additional pay. He was clearly uninterested and told me that none of this excused {what he saw) as my heinous crime. The problem with the scenario is (as my immediate boss who was also present) surmised: whatever I said was going to be wrong or not clear enough, so I have no confidence that it's something that I can put right.
It has certainly been an interesting 6 months. As well as all of the flux at work I spent the first part of it (and a few months before) I was travelling up and down to Edinburgh to visit my father who was dying. He increasingly behaved erratically, sometimes angry (which was probably good prep for work to be fair, he did have an excuse), then he didn't recognize me and then he just started shutting down in front of my eyes. I don't mention this as any kind of mitigation for my performance (as I don't actually think I did anything wrong). More as an illustration of the commitment that I did put into the job. I did all my travelling and visiting in my own time and never asked for any allowances at work. Probably the thing that disgusts me the most about his review of my performance was that he didn't see fit to mention that I continued and never once whined about the horror I was bottling up. You'd have thought that the death of a staff member's father might be seen as a significant event given that it happened over the period he was discussing. Not the way I'd act myself, anyway.
The positive that I have to take from it is that I had been using the company's location as my reason for staying on, but in truth I've never liked working for them. I worked for another organisation that was taken over and I've just kind of hung on while all the good guys left. This has put a fire under me: the kind of people that accept this kind of treatment are the kind of people who don't have a choice. I hope that I do and I've set a goal for myself to be out of the door by xmas (assuming a three month notice period that gives me a couple of months to sort something out). While telling him to stick his job up his grothole is a tempting notion I think that it'd hurt me more than it does him if it took me a while to find something else.
Anyway, I walked out and put in a few calls to a few mates who have always said - let me know if you're ever looking for a job, we'd have you anytime. I'm not expecting all of these to come off or maybe any of them, but so far one is particularly keen and has something that fits and a couple of others are having a look to see if they can open something up. If nothing comes of them I'll start with the recruitment consultants next week. With any luck I'll be on my way to something more interesting, with better cash and with a better class of person, before long. To be fair I'd accept one out of those three. It's all left me feeling a bit low though, I feel I'm on the right track and it's been handy to share. Which I'm not know for.
SUMMARY: Mort's boss man continues to act like an aged Eric Cartman and it has strengthened my resolve to leave which I aim to do soon, but under my own terms. MCS - I'll be needing a few of them cards, I'll hit you up when I'm on the off-ramp.
LoFi - good idea, I did think about the grievance route, but the guy is a few levels up the food chain from me and it's a lot of grief to go through all these procedures for a job that I don't much like.
Glad to see that you retained your composure and dignity. One word of advice: make a note now of the conversation as best you can remember it and then send it to him and your line manager asking them to confirm it is accurate. I can assure you that this is the most important thing you can do and will protect your position as well as shifting the attack to them. They will now be concerned that you may take either a grievance or an employment tribunal and will make them back off.
Well done, Morts.
I look forward to seeing a post from you that says you can give this imbecilic bell end the finger as you roll on to pastures new.
Anyone who hasn't taken account of your recent circumstances and cut you a bit of slack for it is not the kind of specimen that you want to be working for - I bet you feel liberated now that you can see this; there's nothing like the relaxing feeling of not having to give a shit anymore!
Good luck with your jobhunting.
Getting past all the bravado I have long thought that he only true power any of us has in a job is to leave, on our own terms, preferably at a time most inconvenient for who ever is pissing you off. Resolving to leave and getting started a chain of events to make that happen can be liberating and take a lot of the pressure off yourself. I have found as well that it does not hurt to quietly let it be known that you are looking elsewhere.
Also if life has taught me one thing it is that a bad situation never gets better by ignoring it.