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Charlton players who have proved you wrong

edited March 2011 in General Charlton
Sorry if this has been done before but with the amount of players we go through, there are loads of options.

For the better:
Darren Bent- went to the Welling friendly in 2005 with a West Ham fan who said DB was lazy and would not score goals at Prem level, missed a sitter at Welling and stupidly I believed he would struggle. Very wrong!
Deon Burton- spent the half Championship season when he was here thinking he was just a journeyman lower league striker who had no consistency and bought little to the table. Last year, he was one of my fave players and think we would have been promoted if he had been fully fit for longer last season.
Chris Perry- was underwelmed when he signed for some reason. Excellent signing in the end.

For the worse:
Most of Pardew's signings
Some of Dowie's signings
Francis Jeffers- thought we had got a bargain and a player who just needed games and would score. Believed the fox in the box repuation from Everton and England U21's.
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  • For the better: Mark Aizlewood
    Stuart Balmer
    John Robinson

    For the worse: JFH, in a very big way.
    Kyel Reid is going that way.
    Gary Doherty, who I thought would be a tower of strength this season.
    Years ago, Dennis Bond.
  • Luke young: When we first signed him, I wasnt convinced (not in the first couple of months anyway). Turned out to be a fantastic signing and was one of my favourite charlton players in the prem years.
  • Neil Etheridge - thought he would see out his career at the Valley
  • Aizlewood , balmer , and robinson stick out for me too. Can anyone remember aizlewood sticking two fingers up at the coverend end after he scored , while having a particular bad game at the beginning of his charlton carrear.
  • Yes, I remember when we lost Robert Lee and Curbs brought in Robbo - He really suffered by comparrison but turned out to be a terrific player for us. You could say that the current team collectively has proven me wrong as I thought they had more about them than they have demonstrated.
  • Robinson was poor when he first arrived - lightweight and injury prone to boot, as I recall he got injured in his first game and for the next two years was in and mostly out of the team. Eventually he was transfer listed but no one wanted to buy him (unsurprisingly) and so remained a Charlton player by default. then early in season 96/7 (if not that year, then it was the season we made the play-offs) someone got injured, he came in for the next game, played a blinder and never really lost his place in the team for the rest of his Charlton career.
  • For the Bad
    Dennis Rommedahl
    Jimmy Floyd
    Francis Jeffers
    John Barnes
    Don MCallister
    Paddy McCarthy


    For The Good
    Nicky Weaver ( and i know a lot a fans hate him but he did ok)
    Carl Harris
    Alan Simonson
    Paolo Di Canio ( thought his best days were behind he but he was terrific)
  • How could I have forgotten Dennis Rommedahl? Definitely my greatest disappointment.
  • For the good:
    Darren Bent
    Deon Burton
    Chris Perry
    Paolo Di Canio (thought he would be trouble as the papers made out, wasnt and flourished)
    Christian Dailly
    Frazer Richardson

    For the worse:
    Neil Redfearn
    Dennis Rommedahl
    Francis Jeffers
    Darren Ambrose (very ineffectual and rarely showed glimpses of what he could provde)
    JFH
    Marcus Bent - Actually thought he'd be a Shaun Bartlett kind of player for us but in the end he was lazy.

    If managers are included id add Iain Dowie and Alan Pardew to managers who i thought would do well.
  • clive mendonca !!!

    after his first game i thought he was a donkey !!!!natural pessimism kicking in i think . I try and give them a couple of games now before I write them off ...........
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  • Andy Petterson - was ridiculously error prone when we first signed him Summer 1994 but turned out to be a very good keeper indeed. "Who's that saving goals?"
  • Andy Petterson was great in the second half of 1996/97 when he won player of the year- terrible for the rest of his career after that! Looked so out of depth in the Premiership.
  • for the good embarassing buys

    colin powell gordon riddick
    derek hales barry endean
    mike flanagan jfh ...the worst
    (all bought for next to nothing) amdy faye
    jorge costa djimi traore
    malcom webster dennis rommedhal
  • The two that come readily to mind are Aizlewood and Robinson.
    Aizlewood struggled early on, but he eventually won the respect of the fans (if not the love) with some outstanding performances.
    A Brighton mate of mine couldn't believe it when we signed Robinson and nor could I when I first saw him play. Turned himself into an excellent and much loved player.
  • edited March 2011
    Remember Steve Gritt got a lot of stick early doors but transformed himself into a hero.
  • [cite]Posted By: lolwray[/cite]for the good embarassing buys

    colin powell gordon riddick
    derek hales barry endean
    mike flanagan jfh ...the worst
    (all bought for next to nothing) amdy faye
    jorge costa djimi traore
    malcom webster dennis rommedhal

    Jorge Costa one of the worst?
  • [cite]Posted By: gilbertfilbert[/cite]How could I have forgotten Dennis Rommedahl? Definitely my greatest disappointment.[/quote

    harsh on rommedahl he was playing for a manager who didn;t know how to play him. plus his goal at palace
  • In the good old days, you'd see a name linked to the club and your heart would skip a beat! Two players who had that effect on me and then went on to do feck all for us were:

    Danny Murphy and
    JFH
  • [cite]Posted By: Saga Lout[/cite]In the good old days, you'd see a name linked to the club and your heart would skip a beat! Two players who had that effect on me and then went on to do feck all for us were:

    Danny Murphy and
    JFH

    Danny Murphy? The only problem was that he didn't stay long enough.
  • [cite]Posted By: mid_life_crisis[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: Saga Lout[/cite]In the good old days, you'd see a name linked to the club and your heart would skip a beat! Two players who had that effect on me and then went on to do feck all for us were:

    Danny Murphy and
    JFH

    Danny Murphy? The only problem was that he didn't stay long enough.

    Exactly! Probably more down to his wife wanting him to be at a more fashionable club, but still a huge disappointment.
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  • From the last 6 years:

    my disappointments:

    Francis Jeffers
    Gonzalo Sorondo
    Bryan Hughes
    Yassin Moutaouakil
    Paddy McCarthy
    Svetoslav Todorov
    Mark "HOOF" Hudson
    Amdy Faye

    Surprises:
    Jose Semedo
    Christian Dailly
    Ben Thatcher
    Talal El Karkouri
  • Nicky Bailey
    Christian Dailly
    Andy Hunt
    Keith Jones
    Sasa Illic (play off season)
    Neil Heaney (play offs!)
    Dave Shipperly
    Steve Thompson
    Steve Pender
    Simon Webster
    Mark Aizlewood
    Scott Parker (post his Norwich loan)

    Biggest disappointments
    Dennis Rhommadahl
    Jesper Blomqvist
    Neil Redfearn
    JFH
  • [cite]Posted By: scabbyhorse[/cite]Aizlewood , balmer , and robinson stick out for me too. Can anyone remember aizlewood sticking two fingers up at the coverend end after he scored , while having a particular bad game at the beginning of his charlton carrear.

    I do.He used to get so much abuse and stick at first and rightly so because his ball control was atrocious.Turned into a great player and captain.
  • Disappointments
    Rommedahl
    Jeffers
    Hudson
    Ambrose
    JFH
    Neil Redfearn
    Marcus Bent
    Andy Jones
    Joe Mclaughlin
    Colin Pates

    Surprises
    Cliff Holton
    Ron Saunders both earned their gravy.
    Balmer
    Nelson got better at the Valley
    Robbo
    Humphrey Thought he was poor at first-how wrong was that!
    Young ditto That is why I am wary of dissing Francis.
  • Disappointments: too many to mention!

    Surprises: I wondered why Curbs had splashed out on a certain D.Bent, but thankfully he was a far better judge of player than I will ever be....also I remember seeing Luke Young away at Derby playing so badly I thought that he needed shooing towards the club's exit door following a few similar performances. A couple of years later and he had transformed as a player into Mr dependable and someone we missed really badly when he left. So you never know (or at least I don't, anyway).
  • Best Buy:

    1.Dean Kiely
    2.Clive Mendonca
    3.Matt Holland



    Worst Buy
    1.Troare
  • BensonFC - Thatcher? really? 500k for 22 games?
  • [cite]Posted By: I-SAW-POUSO-PLAY[/cite]BensonFC - Thatcher? really? 500k for 22 games?

    Despite his Blackburn blemish, I thought he was a solid enough signing and compared to Traore who was LB before, Thatcher was very decent.
  • Good
    Danny Mills, plucked from obscurity from Norwich reserves, though he played a blinder on his debut. Several
    others mentioned already
    Another who joined to play at right back but then converted to ball-winning midfield player, Radostin Kishishev.

    Bad, too many to mention, especially post-Curbs.
  • I think Francis has the potential to be a future addition to this list. I like the way he always shows in games and his attacking play can be excellent. He can defend as well but is prone to too many erros but he can sort this out - providing our fans give him a chance and stop booing and putting unfair pressure on him. Maybe another club will ultimately benefit.
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