Not a big fan of JD, as I may have said before, but there are two things you can't fault him on: 1) supporting Charlton and 2) supporting our troops. He does both of those things regardless of whether or not it is trendy or popular to do so.
[quote][cite]Posted By: Henry Irving[/cite][quote][cite]Posted By: randy andy[/cite]The problem with the good old days is that they don't exist. The human brain is very good a censoring the past and only remembering the bits it wants to.[/quote]
Very true.
The good old days of the 70s. Mass unemployment, strikes, three day weeks, UK taking loans off the International monetary fund, high inflation, Prog Rock, Charlton in Division 3.
Just be thankful those days will never return : - )[/quote]
[quote][cite]Posted By: ChrisWhytesBaldhead[/cite]What is the state of things now? The last time we had a recession of this size was in the 20's before mass imigration. Somethings change, some don't.[/quote]
[cite]Posted By: ChrisWhytesBaldhead[/cite]I think whether you like him or not definitely seems to be an age thing. If you're around about the same age as JD, you're probably thinking of some of the things you said or did around the same time, and you know by condemning him you're in a way condemning yourself.
One thing that does seems to get used quite often on here is the JD - Little Britain comparison. In Little Britain the characters they play are different colours and sexes but the humour is about the characters personality not their race or gender. With JD when he did the 'Chalky' impressions the "humour" was all about the race.
I think this is a real problem with people who are racist. They know in modern society they shouldn’t say something racist but they don’t know why. I think the blame does lie with the way people have been taught about racism that so many don’t understand why it is wrong.
You’re also going to get a generation of people who are set in their ways and will hark back to the “good old days” when everyone was white and had a job and there was no crime and everyone was polite to each other etc etc
I'm old enough to remember a programme called the Black and White Minstrels which was a staple of Sunday night TV and much enjoyed by older viewers at the time (although, as a child, I found all that singing "boring")
It was removed, despite people enjoying it, because it was considered racist and offensive for white men to "black up."
We have Matt Lucas doing the self-same thing and it is considered acceptable and amusing. For the record I enjoy much of the Little Britain stuff so have no axe to grind re Matt Lucas, he is simply the most recent and high profile example I can think of.
I have to say that it seems to me that the goalposts of what does or does not constitute racist behaviour move according the ideology (or perceived ideology) of the perpetrator.
Now I freely admit to not being the sharpest tool in the box but surely something is racist or it is not regardless of who perpetrates it?
One thing that does seems to get used quite often on here is the JD - Little Britain comparison. In Little Britain the characters they play are different colours and sexes but the humour is about the characters personality not their race or gender. With JD when he did the 'Chalky' impressions the "humour" was all about the race.
You sure about that?
Matt Lucas blacking up and portraying a fat lazy west indian woman (a stereotype?) is all about the "personality" he's playing is it? Whereas JD not blacking up, putting on a west indian accent and portraying a stupid jamaican (a stereotype?) was all about race.
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Very true.
The good old days of the 70s. Mass unemployment, strikes, three day weeks, UK taking loans off the International monetary fund, high inflation, Prog Rock, Charlton in Division 3.
Just be thankful those days will never return : - )[/quote]
NO TO PROG ROCK.
Too true. Some things never change.
I'm old enough to remember a programme called the Black and White Minstrels which was a staple of Sunday night TV and much enjoyed by older viewers at the time (although, as a child, I found all that singing "boring")
It was removed, despite people enjoying it, because it was considered racist and offensive for white men to "black up."
We have Matt Lucas doing the self-same thing and it is considered acceptable and amusing. For the record I enjoy much of the Little Britain stuff so have no axe to grind re Matt Lucas, he is simply the most recent and high profile example I can think of.
I have to say that it seems to me that the goalposts of what does or does not constitute racist behaviour move according the ideology (or perceived ideology) of the perpetrator.
Now I freely admit to not being the sharpest tool in the box but surely something is racist or it is not regardless of who perpetrates it?
You sure about that?
Matt Lucas blacking up and portraying a fat lazy west indian woman (a stereotype?) is all about the "personality" he's playing is it? Whereas JD not blacking up, putting on a west indian accent and portraying a stupid jamaican (a stereotype?) was all about race.
If you say so, if you say so.
I was taking the piss old boy!
I see anything as fair game to take a rise out of and I include myself in that
A lot of people don't though that is what I was getting at