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Logically Chris Powell Has To Go...

IF we don't win promotion next season. Although missing out on the playoffs this year would be frankly embarrassing with the squad we have, theres no excuse to waste this season and then mess up again, because that would defy everything.

However I don't buy into this give Powell this season to get used to the team then use next year to get promoted, how many new managers join their clubs in the summer and then go on to have successful seasons, pre-season is long enough to get used the team and get a feel for things so I can't see why if the board were so adamant to get rid of Parky that we couldn't have waited until the summer.

Another thing that seems to be coming up a lot is that "our players aren’t good enough" that’s a load of bollocks, our team player for player is as good as if not better than Brighton and although we could do with a bit of strengthening the side we have now is more than capable of finishing 6th, its clearly all about getting them to play together as a team, which at times we could do quite well under Parky.

Finally I do also wonder "are we too nice as a side"? I find that teams like Huddersfield seem to have no problems in going and thrashing the relegation threatened teams but for us it’s always a struggle and I believe a lot of that could be down to the fact that they for instance have a ruthless manager at the helm in Lee Clark. Now I want Powell to succeed as manager as much as anyone else but I really felt that after Parky got the boot we needed someone to come in who had no connections to Charlton what-so-ever and something to prove like Eddie Howe.

Usually I'm an optimistic fan and you never know we could click in the next match and storm into the play-offs and I really hope thats the case especially as I ordered my Dagenham tickets today, however it is looking bleak right now.
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  • Fair enough, and I agree with the fact that there was no point in changing manager if we were only going to have a custodian for a crap squad to see out the rest of the season. BUT THIS WAS NOT THE CASE. The owners clearly thought that Powell was going to have an impact and improve the results, Slater said so at the time! They have not just settled for a mid-table finish, they want to earn money as much as we want promotion.
    [cite]Posted By: forzajuve_27[/cite].

    Another thing that seems to be coming up a lot is that "our players aren’t good enough" that’s a load of bollocks, our team player for player is as good as if not better than Brighton.


    Quite frankly, that is bollocks. I would say Brighton have the better player in every single position bar BWP, and perhaps Semedo could get into their midfield to anchor what is a totally different (i.e Attacking!) side.
  • We have some good players and some bad players, our players are nowhere bad enough to be picking up 13 points from a possible 30. Powelly should realistically be given the chance to build his own team but the way things are going I dunno if I'd trust him to build a team all over again :(
  • [cite]Posted By: forzajuve_27[/cite]IF we don't win promotion next season. Although missing out on the playoffs this year would be frankly embarrassing with the squad we have, theres no excuse to waste this season and then mess up again, because that would defy everything.

    However I don't buy into this give Powell this season to get used to the team then use next year to get promoted, how many new managers join their clubs in the summer and then go on to have successful seasons, pre-season is long enough to get used the team and get a feel for things so I can't see why if the board were so adamant to get rid of Parky that we couldn't have waited until the summer.

    Another thing that seems to be coming up a lot is that "our players aren’t good enough" that’s a load of bollocks, our team player for player is as good as if not better than Brighton and although we could do with a bit of strengthening the side we have now is more than capable of finishing 6th, its clearly all about getting them to play together as a team, which at times we could do quite well under Parky.

    Finally I do also wonder "are we too nice as a side"? I find that teams like Huddersfield seem to have no problems in going and thrashing the relegation threatened teams but for us it’s always a struggle and I believe a lot of that could be down to the fact that they for instance have a ruthless manager at the helm in Lee Clark. Now I want Powell to succeed as manager as much as anyone else but I really felt that after Parky got the boot we needed someone to come in who had no connections to Charlton what-so-ever and something to prove like Eddie Howe.

    Usually I'm an optimistic fan and you never know we could click in the next match and storm into the play-offs and I really hope thats the case especially as I ordered my Dagenham tickets today, however it is looking bleak right now.

    That is not a load of bollocks, the squad we have is not good enough. We have the two slowest centre backs in this division and they get caught out too easily at times, especially doherty. We have Francis who I don't trust at all playing RB and gets very sloppy, especially the way he handled the Tranmere goal. Racon and Semedo are decent players but we lack creavity in the centre and that is why I honestly believe we should put Jackson in the middle because I feel he would be more suited there but we don't have a league one version of Scott Parker who can push forward and can set up goals for BWP as he needs these.

    I believe our strikers and wingers are decent we just need to fill in the spots that is really needed, I am annoyed we have not brought in a defender alongside Dailly because I think that could sort our defence out.

    I do agree that we are too nice as a side but it has been like that for ages. Remember our brilliant run under Curbs in Division 1, who do we go and lose to? Yes bottom club Swindon Town.
  • Write the season off and atleast give CP the summer to build his own team with his own
    ideas etc. He only wants the best for Charlton he is a fan aswell as a manager. Give him the time and be positive, it's not like we were good before he came along then he messed it all up. We've been like this for years a keyword hear the man needs TIME.
  • edited March 2011
    is this the worst run of results since the first Prem season??
  • edited March 2011
    A key point of mine that no one has responded to yet is the whole "lets give Powell this season to get familar with the side then challenge next season" notion, as I said how many new managers join their clubs in the summer and then go on to have successful seasons, pre-season is long enough to get used the team and get a feel for things. I'm eager to know what everyone think of that.
  • edited March 2011
    Has Chris Powell been stripped of his Knighood? I have'nt seen him mentioned as SCP lately.
  • We are awful, the team is devoid of confidence and we are all starting to realise what a decent job Parky was doing, the only manager to actually turn anything around, with Wright Phillips up front with Parky we would still be in the hunt ....
  • behave
  • This is not Powell's team - Parkinson bought most of the shite in the team ( McCormack , Francis , Benson , Doherty etc ...) and not until he has his own team can we really judge him.

    What is the point of getting another manager? None.
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  • Look guys we've been pants for 5 years , this guy is in his 1st job... we will not make the playoffs this season , we had to win tonight to give ourselves a chance , the Directors have got to put their hands in their pockets in the summer to bring in better players, players who will have the impact AND quality of BWP, this is a pig of a division to get out of , we haven't earnt the right to get promoted by a long stretch , the players have let CP down a lot recently , and if i were him i'd be tempted to show quite a lot of them the door in the summer, but we have got to forget Mk Dons , and get behind the lads from the start on Saturday , North stand i look to you to get the ball rolling .....
  • North Stand are you there? North Stand? Anybody? ;-)
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    Well said MIA.
  • [cite]Posted By: forzajuve_27[/cite]A key point of mine that no one has responded to yet is the whole "lets give Powell this season to get familar with the side then challenge next season" notion, as I said how many new managers join their clubs in the summer and then go on to have successful seasons, pre-season is long enough to get used the team and get a feel for things. I'm eager to know what everyone think of that.

    Quiet a few actually.

    Nigel Pearson of Leicester, finished top of League one then went on to the play offs next season after. There are other managers but I can't think of any on top of my head at the moment.

    You also then had managers who became manager in January/February time went on bad runs then succeded in the end, Curbs at West Ham (Even those fans were calling for his head after they lost 4-0 to us) Owen Coyle had bad run and stayed up for Bolton, they are now 7th place.

    We need to give Powell more time, I can not believe a few of you are saying get rid just after 9 games.
  • [quote][cite]Posted By: Mendonca In Asdas[/cite]Look guys we've been pants for 5 years , this guy is in his 1st job... we will not make the playoffs this season , we had to win tonight to give ourselves a chance , the Directors have got to put their hands in their pockets in the summer to bring in better players, players who will have the impact AND quality of BWP, this is a pig of a division to get out of , we haven't earnt the right to get promoted by a long stretch , the players have let CP down a lot recently , and if i were him i'd be tempted to show quite a lot of them the door in the summer, but we have got to forget Mk Dons , and get behind the lads from the start on Saturday , North stand i look to you to get the ball rolling .....[/quote]

    This
  • Elliot, Bessone, Doherty, Jackson, Anyinsah, Wright - Phillips all first team players, including his own signings, injured or not fully fit.

    Elliot, Doherty, Jackson, Anyinsah is not a bad spine to a side at this level.

    Curbs would have a furrowed brow over that little lot let alone a guy 10 games into his managerial career!
  • Chris Powell nice bloke, shite manager.

    This is his first managerial job and he is out of his depth. Les Reed all over again.
  • Poyet nearly got relegated with Brighton last season
  • [cite]Posted By: Billericay Dickie[/cite]Chris Powell nice bloke, shite manager.

    This is his first managerial job and he is out of his depth. Les Reed all over again.

    Idiot
  • I think the board were rash on sacking Parky when he put us 5th in the table, Powell is on a bad run now but we won't have too much harm if he stays until the end of the season, someone else stepping in if need be in May. Powell will always be a legend though and only way he would damage his reputation would be if he moved to palace or millwall or if he intentionally ruins the team which he clearly isn't doing. I think it's safe to say Powell is giving it 100%, he needs to find that extra 10% though.
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  • [cite]Posted By: Billericay Dickie[/cite]Chris Powell nice bloke, shite manager.

    This is his first managerial job and he is out of his depth. Les Reed all over again.

    Utter bollocks - off course its not Powell's fault and no he shouldn't go.

    I went tonight and the performance was poor.

    I went through the team

    Worner, Francis, Llera, Dailly, McOxo, Benson and Reid were all Parky signings. Only Worner, Llera and Dailly had any sort of a game. Francis was absolutely woefui, as was Benson. McOxo and Reid were just about OK.

    Racon and Semedo - signed by Pardew were OK as was Waggy - a youth team player

    Jenkinson - brought in by Chris Powell was the only other player who stood out.

    There is a lack of confidence in this club and its exacerbated by fractious and frankly pathetic fans who boo the team during the game ffs!

    Wake up people. Jose Mourinho would find it hard to turn this around.

    This is another managers squad and he was struggling to get it to put in a decent performance in the weeks running up to his sacking. Frankly there were only three or four really decent performances this season under Parky and many poor performances last season when we had a much stronger team.
  • He also needs to make some bold decisions and rattle a few cages.
  • We're nowhere near championship quality but even with our poor defence we should be in the top 6 of what is a very poor league. This rubbish about it's not CPs team is .....erm rubbish. How many other managers take over a piss poor team & manage to turn things around, gradually improving things as they go along. It's crazy to think he can't manage a team unless they're all players that he has signed. CP has managed to bring back happy memories of Les Reed, he looks to have absolutely no idea of what he's doing. The 4 victories he "achieved" could very easily have been 4 defeats, so poorly did we play. If that had happened we would now be in the relegation zone. Where was the thinking behind the bizarre 4-3-3 line up when it was obvious that we would be /were over-run in midfield while our goal threats were pushed out wide with Abbott the man in the box ? Why was one of the leagues leading scorers who despite our dreadful run was on a goal scoring mission left on the bench when a player who looks totally & utterly out of his depth is the man designated to lead our attacking force ....of one ?
    Chris Powell has turned an average team into a very poor one & at the very best is looking exactly what he is, a man with no managerial experience or at the worst a man who has no idea. He may have the makings of a good coach & even at this early stage i think that that is where he should be looking to cement his future because he isn't a manager I'm sorry to say.
  • [cite]Posted By: Bedsaddick[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: Billericay Dickie[/cite]Chris Powell nice bloke, shite manager.

    This is his first managerial job and he is out of his depth. Les Reed all over again.

    Idiot

    The thing is, if he is right and if Powell doesn't have the ability to bring the success we crave how long do we wait.

    I'm not suggesting he has to go right now, but let's be honest we was appointed on the back of an interview that lasted an hour. He has no track record of success managing anywhere. I know we are in the 3rd division and have to accept that we might have to have a less experienced and/or successful manager, but more and more people are pointing out costly mistakes he has made.

    If he doesn't stop making mistakes that cost us points until December we might not be able to claw it back next season. We need to remember that this division is costing us c. £4m a season in losses.

    If Powell is in charge (and remember I hope this doesn't happen) while we fail to win promotion this season or next I think quotes like this one from BD will look a lot less than idioitic.
  • I'm seriously worried about the judgement of the managerial team if they really believe, as Powell is quoted on the OS, that Benson tonight "did very, very well."

    Benson was absolutely woeful tonight. A Sunday League player in every respect apart from salary. His one useful contribution was to get sent off, thus avoiding four games of further ineptitude.

    He has no physical presence. No first touch. No energy. No trickery. He failed to win a single header tonight, closed down no-one and ensured that his marker got MoM.

    He is an utter embarrassment.
  • An interview that lasted 1 hour although slater has said that after only 5 minutes he knew that we had our new manager !!!!!!! Based on what ? His presence, he held the room etc etc.

    I wonder if murrey was involved in the interview ? Didn't Dowie give a fantastic performance in his interview ?
  • Wake up people. Jose Mourinho would find it hard to turn this around.

    Absolutely spot on. Get rid of Powell now or at the end of season would be complete madness because NOBODY could sort this lot out.
  • [cite]Posted By: Dave Rudd[/cite]I'm seriously worried about the judgement of the managerial team if they really believe, as Powell is quoted on the OS, that Benson tonight "did very, very well."

    Benson was absolutely woeful tonight. A Sunday League player in every respect apart from salary. His one useful contribution was to get sent off, thus avoiding four games of further ineptitude.

    He has no physical presence. No first touch. No energy. No trickery. He failed to win a single header tonight, closed down no-one and ensured that his marker got MoM.

    He is an utter embarrassment.

    agree with all of that. If CP has said that then I'm worried. I'll also be worried if Francis starts on Saturday. The guy is absolutely terrible. Get Solly in. I'd rather see him cock-up but learn from it as he is the future. It's too late for Francis.
    [cite]Posted By: bingaddick[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: Billericay Dickie[/cite]Chris Powell nice bloke, shite manager.

    This is his first managerial job and he is out of his depth. Les Reed all over again.

    Utter bollocks - off course its not Powell's fault and no he shouldn't go.

    I went tonight and the performance was poor.

    I went through the team

    Worner, Francis, Llera, Dailly, McOxo, Benson and Reid were all Parky signings. Only Worner, Llera and Dailly had any sort of a game. Francis was absolutely woefui, as was Benson. McOxo and Reid were just about OK.

    Racon and Semedo - signed by Pardew were OK as was Waggy - a youth team player

    Jenkinson - brought in by Chris Powell was the only other player who stood out.

    There is a lack of confidence in this club and its exacerbated by fractious and frankly pathetic fans who boo the teamduringthe game ffs!

    Wake up people. Jose Mourinho would find it hard to turn this around.

    This is another managers squad and he was struggling to get it to put in a decent performance in the weeks running up to his sacking. Frankly there were only three or four really decent performances this season under Parky and many poor performances last season when we had a much stronger team.

    agree with that too except I thought McOxo was once again very poor and I thought that Racon did at least try to make things happen. Francis is officially the worse player I have seen in a Charlton shirt ever. He should have cost us three goals tonight with his ineptitude.
  • Will never boo Chrissy, we just aren't good enough, too many players that make individual errors in the team, mainly them two plonkers from Southend.
  • edited March 2011
    Carefull bedsaddick because its you who could end up the idiot , its his opinion and it does not deserve to be abused. Can I ask , when dowie or billy davies took over someone elses teams at the bottom of the championship , were they still the previous managers team , when they brought them success? Daglish seems to be doing ok with hodgsons team is he not? If he gets them to europe shall we all say well done roy? Its getting bloody stupid all this its parkys team , parkys gone and its now powells team .
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