Liked Matty as a player and if CP feels he is the right man to work with then that's good enough for me. Oh and I think there wasn't anything wrong with Matt Hollands tackles.
[cite]Posted By: ShootersHillGuru[/cite]Liked Matty as a player and if CP feels he is the right man to work with then that's good enough for me. Oh and I think there wasn't anything wrong with Matt Hollands tackles.
Agree, just because he didn't crunch into players sending them into the air it doesn't mean he couldn't tackle. Holland was a good tackler but usually always took the ball cleanly, almost like a ghost tackle.
[quote][cite]Posted By: bingaddick[/cite]Shock horror, Matt Holland in clean shorts, poor tackling - accusation.
He was decent player for us, and a really good club captain, and I think he'd make a decent assistant manager to CP. I just can't see it happening.[/quote]
Disagree that he was a decent player or good captain but coaching is a dirrerent matter. If CP wants him as his No2 then I'll trust CP's judgement.
For a player who had a good career in the top flight and at international level I think he gets a bit too much stick to be honest. He was a very good player and I think the criticism just goes to show how little some peoples knowledge of football really is.
Powell should get whoever he thinks is best for the job, experienced or not, ex Charlton or not.
As for Holland as a player, he was a good player but it showed how he had declined when he couldn't get in our poor Championship relegation side. Season before that Pardew kept playing despite the results being better with Semedo in the team.
He went from being a very important player in the Prem for Ipswich and an international to a player who had we kept him wouldn't have got into our team even in League One. So good player depends on what season of his career you're talking about.
[cite]Posted By: ShootersHillGuru[/cite]For a player who had a good career in the top flight and at international level I think he gets a bit too much stick to be honest. He was a very good player and I think the criticism just goes to show how little some peoples knowledge of football really is.
I heard a different rumour, from what you'd think was a good source - I can't possibly say who. But the word was: Steve Brown & Dean Kiely would be returning. Personally, I'd put Deano straight into the team!
How on earth was Matt Holland anonymous? Wtf do people actually look at when they go to football games?! Matt Holland was one of our most vocal players and was always marshalling our men in the game. He would also mop up many balls in the midfield and distribute it well, he was a tidy footballer that could tackle without mashing oppositions legs, what is wrong with that exactly? On my list of anonymous Charlton players, there are many, many names before his!
[cite]Posted By: sam3110[/cite]How on earth was Matt Holland anonymous? Wtf do people actually look at when they go to football games?! Matt Holland was one of our most vocal players and was always marshalling our men in the game. He would also mop up many balls in the midfield and distribute it well, he was a tidy footballer that could tackle without mashing oppositions legs, what is wrong with that exactly? On my list of anonymous Charlton players, there are many, many names before his!
Yes, and don't forget his goals contribution; scored somw good ones
[cite]Posted By: bingaddick[/cite]Shock horror, Matt Holland in clean shorts, poor tackling - accusation.
He was decent player for us, and a really good club captain, and I think he'd make a decent assistant manager to CP. I just can't see it happening.
Disagree that he was a decent player or good captain but coaching is a dirrerent matter. If CP wants him as his No2 then I'll trust CP's judgement.
This argument was done to death when he played for us. He had a long international career, was Captain at by us and Ipswich, and was very well respected within the game. Don't you think that those in the know had the best idea about his capabilities and at the main clubs he played for in his career, the managers decided to make him Captain.
[cite]Posted By: ShootersHillGuru[/cite]For a player who had a good career in the top flight and at international level I think he gets a bit too much stick to be honest. He was a very good player and I think the criticism just goes to show how little some peoples knowledge of football really is.
This.
Agree totally.
[cite]Posted By: bingaddick[/cite]This argument was done to death when he played for us. He had a long international career, was Captain at by us and Ipswich, and was very well respected within the game. Don't you think that those in the know had the best idea about his capabilities and at the main clubs he played for in his career, the managers decided to make him Captain.
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Overall very sensible appointment if happened, a powell Holland combo with the support of Peacock could be a good look ...
If we cna get three wins out of the next three I will start to beleive...
My big concern would be about the lack of bite...
Powell and Holland are hardly renowned for tough tackling
Danny Mills and Ben Thatcher?
He was a good servant for CAFC but his real love was Ipswich, that was where he spent his best years and where he still lives.
Don't have an opinion on whether he should come back or not.
No sure that's right. He is also a legend at Ipswich with whom he had a great affinity.
He lives in Bishop's Stortfold
Still if he is in charge of coaching tackling, we're save a fortune on our cleaning bill.
Agree, just because he didn't crunch into players sending them into the air it doesn't mean he couldn't tackle. Holland was a good tackler but usually always took the ball cleanly, almost like a ghost tackle.
He was decent player for us, and a really good club captain, and I think he'd make a decent assistant manager to CP. I just can't see it happening.
I don't remember him having a good football brain.
He was decent player for us, and a really good club captain, and I think he'd make a decent assistant manager to CP. I just can't see it happening.[/quote]
Disagree that he was a decent player or good captain but coaching is a dirrerent matter. If CP wants him as his No2 then I'll trust CP's judgement.
Agreed
As for Holland as a player, he was a good player but it showed how he had declined when he couldn't get in our poor Championship relegation side. Season before that Pardew kept playing despite the results being better with Semedo in the team.
He went from being a very important player in the Prem for Ipswich and an international to a player who had we kept him wouldn't have got into our team even in League One. So good player depends on what season of his career you're talking about.
This.
Apparently he was there too!
Yes, and don't forget his goals contribution; scored somw good ones
This argument was done to death when he played for us. He had a long international career, was Captain at by us and Ipswich, and was very well respected within the game. Don't you think that those in the know had the best idea about his capabilities and at the main clubs he played for in his career, the managers decided to make him Captain.
Agree totally.
Well said, Bing.