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What current squad members will survive ?

edited January 2011 in General Charlton
As I keep saying, I believe that there is now money available and that we will have quite a frantic January bringing people in. I reckon that promotion will be regarded as a must, and all this led me to wonder who from the current squad will survive ? My vote goes to the following.

Elliott
Dailly
Semedo
Racon
Wagstaff
Reid
Jackson


Plus maybe Fry and Benson and the youngsters who are just coming through.
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  • I don't think we'll let many go this month. Summer we could be rebuilding the squad again, whatever division we are in.

    Unlike Pardew's signings, the current squad are on shorter contracts and earning less money. Nearly every player has a contract expiring this summer or the year after. I doubt we'll have as many problems getting rid of them like we did with the likes of Yassin and McLeod.
  • edited January 2011
    my pref. starting 11 for the final few months

    elliot (although i prefer warner)
    solly
    fry
    dailly
    *new cb*
    wagstaff
    jackson/reid
    racon
    *new cm*
    benno/aniynsa
    *new st*
  • Agree with Scoham. The only ones we might move on are those who can't get on the bench like Llera.
  • [cite]Posted By: L Block[/cite]my pref. starting 11 for the final few months

    elliot (although i prefer warner)
    solly
    fry
    dailly
    *new cb*
    wagstaff
    jackson/reid
    racon
    *new cm*
    benno/aniynsa
    *new st*

    i'll go with this
  • I honestly don't believe Solly will ever make the grade at right back. He is way too short. Midfield maybe.

    Racon & Semedo are good but don't get anywhere in League 3

    Reid and Wagstaff don't seem to be able to stay on their feet.

    I really think we need an experienced goalkeeper.

    We should sign Fry.
  • [cite]Posted By: Crusty54[/cite]I honestly don't believe Solly will ever make the grade at right back. He is way too short. Midfield maybe.

    Racon & Semedo are good but don't get anywhere in League 3

    Reid and Wagstaff don't seem to be able to stay on their feet.

    I really think we need an experienced goalkeeper.

    We should sign Fry.


    would possibly swop Solly for Semedo although i think he'd get done for pace / turned easily. certainly want Semedo out of the midfield and if the new lot are going to attempt to play football then he can;t stay in midfield. Only other place could be centre back?
  • One has already gone - Marcel Seip has returned to Plymouth.

    Apparently Seip has got a law degree. So may be he wasn't here to play football at all (as he didn't play any). Perhaps he was here to give Murray additional legal advice during the sale !!!
  • [cite]Posted By: Bexley Dan[/cite]
    would possibly swop Solly for Semedo although i think he'd get done for pace / turned easily. certainly want Semedo out of the midfield and if the new lot are going to attempt to play football then he can;t stay in midfield. Only other place could be centre back?

    Did you see what happened when he was asked to defend at the end of the Swindon game?! He should be defensive midfield or out the team, simples.
  • [cite]Posted By: Bexley Dan[/cite]would possibly swop Solly for Semedo although i think he'd get done for pace / turned easily. certainly want Semedo out of the midfield and if the new lot are going to attempt to play football then he can;t stay in midfield. Only other place could be centre back?
    Unless they new manager is looking to play some form of 4-3-3
  • [cite]Posted By: Granpa[/cite]As I keep saying, I believe that there is now money available .

    Why? You seem to be under the impression that we have loads of money whereas I get the impression that we'll be able to spend maybe a few hundred thousand (500,000 tops).
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  • [cite]Posted By: L Block[/cite]my pref. starting 11 for the final few months

    elliot (although i prefer warner)
    solly
    fry
    dailly
    *new cb*
    wagstaff
    jackson/reid
    racon
    *new cm*
    benno/aniynsa
    *new st*


    Definately not Wagstaff, hasn't gone past a full back or crossed a decent ball for months. Danny Green please!
  • Wouldn't mind seeing Semedo moved into central defence (his position when he came to us) and get a new man in for the centre of the park.
  • [quote][cite]Posted By: Essex_Al[/cite][quote][cite]Posted By: L Block[/cite]my pref. starting 11 for the final few months

    elliot (although i prefer warner)
    solly
    fry
    dailly
    *new cb*
    wagstaff
    jackson/reid
    racon
    *new cm*
    benno/aniynsa
    *new st*[/quote]


    Definately not Wagstaff, hasn't gone past a full back or crossed a decent ball for months. Danny Green please![/quote]

    Wagstaff seems to have stagnated quite a lot; he was terrible against Colchester.
  • [cite]Posted By: Essex_Al[/cite]Definately not Wagstaff, hasn't gone past a full back or crossed a decent ball for months. Danny Green please!
    He will improve but we certainly need an alternative so we can play a different type of wide player.
  • Depends on contract length, however I would like to see the following elbowed.

    Francis
    Abbot
    McCormack
    Llera
    The bloke that sits about 4 rows behind me who has no idea!
  • jimmymelrose.

    I read as much as possible on here and elsewhere, and also read between the lines. Tony Jiminez brokered the last deal with Zabeel which was not concluded, and has extensive contacts in Dubai. I believe that he is the middle man between the Club and Arab money, I have seen nothing from TJ and MS to suggest that they have enough to convince Richard Murray and Peter Varney to go with them unless there are wealthy and commited backers. Richard said in his latest statement that he expects Charlton to become an important Club in the future, how ? There is more but I won't bore you with it, we will all understand much more by the end of this month.
  • [quote][cite]Posted By: Granpa[/cite]jimmymelrose.

    I read as much as possible on here and elsewhere, and also read between the lines. Tony Jiminez brokered the last deal with Zabeel which was not concluded, and has extensive contacts in Dubai. I believe that he is the middle man between the Club and Arab money, I have seen nothing from TJ and MS to suggest that they have enough to convince Richard Murray and Peter Varney to go with them unless there are wealthy and commited backers. Richard said in his latest statement that he expects Charlton to become an important Club in the future, how ? There is more but I won't bore you with it, we will all understand much more by the end of this month.[/quote]

    What Pops said.
  • Subject to us having some funds for replacements, the list the Bibble outlined above looks right, but I'd add Martin. Was refreshing when he first arrived, but I think many of us have come to realise that he has a few tricks up his sleeve, but little else in terms of value for the team.

    Now we know Fry is staying in the short term, I think 4 quality additions would see us on another good run, namely a right back, centre back, right midfielder and pacy striker. I think there is enough quality and experience amongst the rest with the right motivator and tactician.
  • Most of the current squad will still be here by the end of January- whoever comes in as manager and whenever this happens they would need time to analyse where players fit in the squad as well as in the team (e.g. good 'squad players' as opposed to hangers-on). The big changes (if any) will be in summer when we know what league we need players for.
  • edited January 2011
    Pavo's list seems about right, though I would prefer to add a new left back, allowing Fry to move into his favoured position in the centre. Also, hard as it would be on Robbie, what about a keeper? I note that Andersson has returned to Reading (where he won't play) from Bristol Rovers, so I wonder if he is going to be sold.
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  • i think semedo should be given a go at centre back this sunday
  • edited January 2011
    Im dissapointed in here. I really like Semedo. A lot he does goes un noticed. Fair enough his passing isnt up to scratch but his job is to battle, win it and give it to the more creative players.

    The fact we dont have any means Semedo is trying too hard and his passes go off key
  • In my opinion Dizzle he's had a poor season by his standards, you don't expect him to be out-competed in the middle of the park. At least half a dozen times he's been that so far this season whereas last season I don't think you could say that over the entire course of the season.
  • [cite]Posted By: bibble[/cite]The bloke that sits about 4 rows behind me who has no idea!

    That's me, Bibble!

    My problem is with the guy that sits 4 rows in front of me. Clueless.

    ;o)
  • [cite]Posted By: ISawLeaburnScore[/cite]In my opinion Dizzle he's had a poor season by his standards

    I'm thinking I have to agree with you, ISaw.

    Whenever I've seen Semedo this season he's been off the pace and even ponderous perhaps, a red card waiting to happen. Maybe I've just seen his poorer games and in others he's played well?


    IMO Semedo always seems at his best playing the 'Makelele' role in a 3-man central midfield - although with Jacko at LM, he and Racon form a much more efficient unit.

    But with Jacko at LB and Reid randomly doing his own thing, Semedo and Racon get lost in the centre ..... and everything in our engine room never seems to fire on all 4 cylinders.



    If we play a regular 4-4-2, methinks time to shuffle the CM pack - and take Semedo out of midfield and replace him in the short term with Oxo Tower man or AN Other soon to be signed.

    I've never been impressed with Semedo at CB, but he's played decent games at full back.
    And apparently, he can play both sides.
  • I think it is a bit rash to judge our existing players on the basis of their performances under the previous clueless manager(s) and one-dimensional tactics. Even most fans "pub-team" player Simon Francis has his good points ( a decent delivery, height & precence). Can't believe 7 goal Waggy is a discard for someone. Let's not forget Hudson, Varney, Ambrose and even McLeod & Basey have moved on from being below average here, to achieveing success elsewhere.
  • Sorry Harvey - Has Basey achieved success elsewhere? Scored a terrific volley in last weeks match at Barnet.....past his own keeper though! My mate is a Barnet fan and the feeleings are very mixed about him and that is League 2 don't forget.
  • Ok, i do agree, Semedo hasnt been himself. I think he is more reliable than Racon though in terms of defence. Our tactics recently have been from defence - lump it up top. Bypassing the midfield. I think with a new manager, a new style and new tactics we should judge his 2nd half of the season.

    Semedo is definately not the answer for centre back. 100%
  • With Semedo, my analysis is just with him in our midfield, it isn't working so well as a 4-4-2 ...... although when Jacko plays LM, the passing does improve.

    Unless we play 3 CMs, it might be time to change things otherwise.
    It's only a thought?
  • Racon has been more battling than Semedo this year, better judged tackles, passes better and chipped in with a couple of well taken goals.

    Anyhow I think the way forward it this..........

    Elliot
    Solly, Dailly, Doherty, Fry Jackson
    Racon, Semedo
    Martin
    Anyinsah Benson

    This may look very defensive, but I feel Solly and Jackson would be very good as wing backs, and there's scope to push Jackson up to LM and shuffle the back across without the need for a sub:

    Elliot
    Solly, Dailly, Doherty, Fry
    Racon, Semedo
    Martin Jackson
    Anyinsah, Benson

    And amazingly I think it would also work with Si Franny at RB and even Waggy as the free role in place of Martin too

    As for new players, I highly doubt there's much money floating around, as the fact of the matter is it was this or admin in June, so I think we were bought for a pittance and these guys are just a go between with CAFC and some guy with a bit of money looking to get us promoted and then sell us on.

    I would say we have upto 750k (for transfers AND wages) and so we will be looking at loans more than transfers.

    I would like a new CB (ours are too slow, we need a sweeping man who can play out of defence) a new CAM who can pass and shoot from range, Martin is ok but has no end product, and a new left sided player so there is scope to move JJ into CM if we need to freshen it up. We don't need a new ST IMO, just someone to feed them better balls
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