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Parky after match interview

edited January 2011 in General Charlton
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We started well and were doing ok, but the equiliser knocked us and i could feel the lads were flat at half time! " I said we can't let that happen, we gotta go again"

Swindon showed more desire in both boxes.

Their defenders had too many free headers. "I didn't see enough desire for us to go and score a goal..."

After brighton game we wnt back to basics and worked hard as a tem, not tonight. "Maybe we started to believe we're a god side and have a devine right to be in that top 6"
"We're a decent side, we're a good side, we work hard for each other and do the basics well (??) and we certainly went away from that tonight.

Fry and Doc were dropped because Parky thought they looked jaded and needed a rest!
Was asked about Fry rumours but avoided question.

we owe the fans a performance against spurs.

He is sitting down with the new chairman tomorrow and will tell him what he needs. Has a list of players he woud like but doesn't know the money available so it's difficult.

Hears the players saying it''s difficult to play st home sometimes when we're getting beat, but they've gotta rise above that and we've gotta get players on the pitch hat can handle that expectation because that's what being at a big club is all about.

Ayinsah's "not a million miles away" from return.

Elliot's not injured, he just fell on his calf. "He was never not gonna play tonight"



Overall pretty honest but basically has admitted he couldn't pick the players up at half time (that's how i choose to hear it i s'pose), and to say we've been doing the basics well mystifies me.
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  • "We owe the fans a game against Spurs...it's a big match for the fans" or something along those lines....seriously I couldn't care less if we are hammered by Spurs 10-0 (and I am sat in the Spurs end with 7 Spurs mates as well)...I would rather win in the league. I never thought we were going to win the FA Cup this year, whereas I did think we might get promoted (or at least play ok).
  • Hears the players saying it''s difficult to play st home sometimes when we're getting beat, but they've gotta rise above that and we've gotta get players on the pitch hat can handle that expectation because that's what being at a big club is all about.
  • [cite]Posted By: LenGlover[/cite]Hears the players saying it''s difficult to play st home sometimes when we're getting beat, but they've gotta rise above that and we've gotta get players on the pitch hat can handle that expectation because that's what being at a big club is all about.

    Is there an echo? :-)
  • edited January 2011
    Load of bullshite from manager and players. At the start of the game the ground felt different an heir of expectancy.20 mins in same old shite. We get lucky with the goal and the crowd was fully behind them. Then we give a shocking goal defensively and robbie should have pushed it wide not straight.

    Daily was woeful throughout defensively and gave away a shocker then the crowd started to turn.


    Everyone else's fault bar the idiot who couldn't raise his players in the changing room
  • Same old excuses. Starting to get very tedious and predictable.Just like pardoo.
  • At the start of the second half when Elliot ran to the Covered End I yelled "Come on Robbie Head Up and Good Luck" at the top of my voice as I felt he needed encouragement after letting that goal in before half time. He looked up caught my eye and clapped me.

    However a "proper fan" would have greeted him by shouting "oi Elliot you fat pink shirted c*** why didn't you catch that f****** ball before half time?" They would also have thrown any convenient missile at him and possibly questioned his parentage to boot.

    I apologise to my fellow fans for not assisting in generating a proper atmosphere to make Elliot perform to the best of his ability.

    I am increasingly aware that people such as myself are becoming anachronisms at Charlton.
  • Parky sounded utterly crushed - what else could he possibly have said? He's done his best, worked very hard and even thrown in some of his own money. Whatever his shortcomings, he does not deserve the vilification and bile that is getting thrown at him.
  • [cite]Posted By: stilladdicted[/cite]Parky sounded utterly crushed - what else could he possibly have said? He's done his best, worked very hard and even thrown in some of his own money. Whatever his shortcomings, he does not deserve the vilification and bile that is getting thrown at him.

    First post I've read on this site in the past 16 hours which I've agreed with.
  • he's such a nice bloke
  • [cite]Posted By: stilladdicted[/cite]Whatever his shortcomings, he does not deserve the vilification and bile that is getting thrown at him.

    agree with that. In my opinion there is a big difference between booing him off, which is acceptable if he is performing badly, and giving personal abuse and calling him a c**t etc etc. He doesn't deserve that. His only 'crime' is that he isn't very good. By all accounts a decent bloke and yes he is very hard working but he's out of his depth. I have nothing personal against him and wish him well when he goes.
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  • Team talk from opposing manager at the Valley - deny them space in the final third. That's it- it's as simple as that and it is simple as Movement and intelligence is sadly lacking from our front line. You don't have to be a good team to do it - in fact we would probably do better against a good team who would put less emphasis on stopping us and would be more open. It's wrong to blame the midfield IMO, they were not given the opportunity to play out balls by our sterile attack. If balls are not on you have to do something with the ball so you punt it upfield or eventually get tackled. Only 2 remedies IMO - get Anyinsah and Sodje fit and play them together at the Valley or bring somebody in if you can't do this.

    I'm pretty sure Parky knows this and to be fair you have to give him the benefit due to injuries. What is the point Parky having a chat with the chairman about what he needs if he is not going to be given funds - If they are not great funds we need to look at a fast strong player like Akinfenwa at Gills. It won't work at a higher level but at League 1, it is a shortcut as most defences lack pace and don't cope well with powerful players. Get an attack that actually pulls defenders out of position and makes life hard and the transformation in the team will be miraculous- we do have some very good players if we can get the balance right to free them up.
  • Nothing much wrong with his comments per se. We lacked desire, we lacked fight, we didn't want it enough blah blah blah. Patently obvious.

    But it's only taking us half way. I'd like to read a follow-up interview 48 hours later (if he's still here), after he's had time to reflect and talk to the players.

    First home game under new owners and meant to be the start of a brave new era in Charlton history. Team sitting in a play-off place with everything to play for. New owners to impress. Big TV audience. Crowd up for it and ready to welcome the new dawn.

    So why did we lack desire? Why was there no fight? Why didn't our players want it as much as Swindon's players?

    Those are the questions Parkinson needs to address and I hope they are the questions Jiminez and Slater are demanding answers to right now.
  • [cite]Posted By: Rothko[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: stilladdicted[/cite]Parky sounded utterly crushed - what else could he possibly have said? He's done his best, worked very hard and even thrown in some of his own money. Whatever his shortcomings, he does not deserve the vilification and bile that is getting thrown at him.

    First post I've read on this site in the past 16 hours which I've agreed with.

    Ditto
  • I am always pessimistic when I don't see Anyinsah on the team sheet or when he goes off. The match didn't surprise me greatly in the way it panned out. But it is not lack of effort - it is the worng balance up front and with the players at Parky's disposal for the match he didn't have too many options given that Sodje was not fully fit.
  • double ditto
  • quote# 16
    [quote][cite]Posted By: Rothko[/cite][quote][cite]Posted By: stilladdicted[/cite]Parky sounded utterly crushed - what else could he possibly have said? He's done his best, worked very hard and even thrown in some of his own money. Whatever his shortcomings, he does not deserve the vilification and bile that is getting thrown at him.[/quote]

    First post I've read on this site in the past 16 hours which I've agreed with.[/quote]

    Ditto
    Yep, me too.
  • [cite]Posted By: thewolfboy[/cite]quote# 16
    [cite]Posted By: Rothko[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: stilladdicted[/cite]Parky sounded utterly crushed - what else could he possibly have said? He's done his best, worked very hard and even thrown in some of his own money. Whatever his shortcomings, he does not deserve the vilification and bile that is getting thrown at him.

    First post I've read on this site in the past 16 hours which I've agreed with.

    Ditto
    Yep, me too.

    X4.
  • edited January 2011
    [cite]Posted By: Miserableold-ish git[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: thewolfboy[/cite]quote# 16
    [cite]Posted By: Rothko[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: stilladdicted[/cite]Parky sounded utterly crushed - what else could he possibly have said? He's done his best, worked very hard and even thrown in some of his own money. Whatever his shortcomings, he does not deserve the vilification and bile that is getting thrown at him.

    First post I've read on this site in the past 16 hours which I've agreed with.

    Ditto
    Yep, me too.

    X4.
    x5
  • I'll 6th the above, no need to quote!
  • edited January 2011
    [cite]Posted By: fastforward[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: Miserableold-ish git[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: thewolfboy[/cite]quote# 16
    [cite]Posted By: Rothko[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: stilladdicted[/cite]Parky sounded utterly crushed - what else could he possibly have said? He's done his best, worked very hard and even thrown in some of his own money. Whatever his shortcomings, he does not deserve the vilification and bile that is getting thrown at him.

    First post I've read on this site in the past 16 hours which I've agreed with.

    Ditto
    Yep, me too.

    X4.
    x5

    x6. There has been a vociferous anti Parky element amongst our "support" since the first day he was appointed.

    They are now all delightedly gathering like flies round a dog turd.
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  • edited January 2011
    [cite]Posted By: fastforward[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: Miserableold-ish git[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: thewolfboy[/cite]quote# 16
    [cite]Posted By: Rothko[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: stilladdicted[/cite]Parky sounded utterly crushed - what else could he possibly have said? He's done his best, worked very hard and even thrown in some of his own money. Whatever his shortcomings, he does not deserve the vilification and bile that is getting thrown at him.

    First post I've read on this site in the past 16 hours which I've agreed with.

    Ditto
    Yep, me too.

    X4.
    x5

    x7
  • edited January 2011
    [cite]Posted By: stilladdicted[/cite]Parky sounded utterly crushed - what else could he possibly have said? He's done his best, worked very hard and even thrown in some of his own money. Whatever his shortcomings, he does not deserve the vilification and bile that is getting thrown at him.

    Well I would hope every decent Charlton supporter will agree that we don't won't to see him vilified personally or bile poured on him as an individual. So I'll happily say 8th or whatever it is to that.

    But the ''shortcomings'' Stilladdicted so rightly mentioned are far too many and glaring to make it possible to support his continued retention in the job.

    Thank you very much, Philip. No doubt you did your best. But this is the dawn of a new era in Charlton's history and you're not part of the future. Sadly your best wasn't good enough and it didn't quite work out. Thanks again and goodbye.

    That should do it in terms of getting rid of him politely and courteously, eh?
  • I agree it's wrong for the personal attacks on him. I believe that he's a very nice and honest guy, (maybe this is his downfall?) I do however believe he is out of his depth
  • edited January 2011
    [cite]Posted By: fastforward[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: Miserableold-ish git[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: thewolfboy[/cite]quote# 16
    [cite]Posted By: Rothko[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: stilladdicted[/cite]Parky sounded utterly crushed - what else could he possibly have said? He's done his best, worked very hard and even thrown in some of his own money. Whatever his shortcomings, he does not deserve the vilification and bile that is getting thrown at him.

    First post I've read on this site in the past 16 hours which I've agreed with.

    Ditto
    Yep, me too.

    X4.
    x5

    *Edit* x6 too slow typing, make that x8!

    Whether or not he's a truly competent manager is obviously pretty open to debate, but he is a genuine guy and I don't think he's ever tried to hide or shirk his responsibilities. If anyone genuinely believes these post match comments are bull shit excuses they should go back and read some of Pardew's pearls of wisdom after bad defeats. Wasn't it the acoustics of the Jimmy Seed Stand that were to blame at one point?
  • [cite]Posted By: LenGlover[/cite]At the start of the second half when Elliot ran to the Covered End I yelled "Come on Robbie Head Up and Good Luck" at the top of my voice as I felt he needed encouragement after letting that goal in before half time. He looked up caught my eye and clapped me.

    However a "proper fan" would have greeted him by shouting "oi Elliot you fat pink shirted c*** why didn't you catch that f****** ball before half time?" They would also have thrown any convenient missile at him and possibly questioned his parentage to boot.

    I apologise to my fellow fans for not assisting in generating a proper atmosphere to make Elliot perform to the best of his ability.

    I am increasingly aware that people such as myself are becoming anachronisms at Charlton.

    Agreed, Len.
  • "Proper fans" do it with asterisks! I'm with you Len/Oggy.
  • Well said and well done Len, that is exactly the sort of thing we need more of and the sort of thing I used to hear all the time.
  • I back Parky but believe his comments are wrong. I wasn't anything to do with effort but lack of the right players in the right positions which cost us. The problem stems from a sterile attack which is easy to defend against and given the circumstances it was difficult for him to do much with what was available. As somebody else has said previously - Benson is suited to a certian role and we are asking him to do things he cannot do. Abbot is a journeyman league 1 striker who lacks pace and Martin is a liability when you look beyond all the smoke and mirrors. Sodje is a bit of a donkey but at least when fit he is a handful and Anyinsah is the player who makes the team work us tick but is always injured. Not rocket science what needs the attention and it isn't telling these players to work harder, its about looking at the strengths and weaknesses of the team and to set up in the most effective way which has to mean an addition or two if we are going to achieve our goals this season.
  • Ah, it's all the fans fault.

    Nothing to do with the fact our manager is tactically inept, or that our players can't seem to pass a ball 5feet. No no, it's all them pesky fans that bankroll the club.
  • Personal attacks of anykind on Parky are not acceptable and like those above I echo their sentiments, it is disgraceful and should not be part of our club.
    However having been a supporter of the man in the past, I'm starting to believe that anymore performances like last night and he will have to go. As for a replacement, well we can all speculate and wish I suppose, so for me it would be Chris Houghton, but I doubt he would come here unless he knew what cash was available to strenghthen the squad and then it would have to be a tidy sum.
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