Not bothering with people on here any more, ill do my thing and you do yours. Guess some people at The Valley are happy with the away fans sounding louder then the HOME side. Makes me laugh.
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Off_it, did your dad sing on the terraces back in his hayday?
What's that got to do with anything? He doesn't sing now and so, according to some, that makes him less of a fan because he doesn't have "passion". I'll let him know that next time I see him. Having had a stroke a year or so ago, having to go into hospital for tests because he's been passing blood and dragging himself up to the top of the West Stand with a shot knee every home game then I'm sure he'll give a fuck what the likes of you think mate.
Thanks CafcAndy. Very kind of you to let my dad off the hook like that - I'm sure he'll be very grateful.
Now what about the bloke that sits in front of me. He's getting on a bit now and has to keep shuffling off for a piss two or three times a half. Is he excused duty too?
H block and and J block have trouble keeping in time and singing same songs as eachother, how do you expect everyone to get in time just wouldn't happen at charlton. And fair play to the guy who stood up made everyone laugh :)
I sat in the West Stand for ages and now I am in the North Upper and what a brilliant choice that was.
I can accept the West sitters don't have to sing and can just watch the game but does it not hurt when we are chanting "red army" just to clap along to the singing?
I used to clap myself to this when I was sitting in the west stand but no one joined me nearer.
Cafcandy, Jazzy etc... Personally i would love the valley to be rocking every home game but at the end of the day near enough every stadium you go away to away fans usually outsing home fans. Its fact & the valley is no different. Get used to it cause it wont ever change. Some people, not saying you 2, but some people say i pay my money to watch the game i have the right to boo my team if they dont deliver. Well swisdom etc in the west have the right to watch the match how they want whether its in silence or singing. Its there choice. They've paid there money. Other peoples parents like Off_Its for example who have been following us for years & years choose to watch the game rather than sing. Big deal. There the ones that have been going before you were born spending there money to follow us but by supporting the club in a different way to you 2. They are no way whatsoever less passionate about charlton than the ones that want to make a bit of noise.
What do you suggest. Kick them out & see an even more emptier stadium so away fans can rip the sh*t out of us even more. They were here in the prem years & way beyond that & if i remember the atmosphere was good back then.
Oh & by the way i went southamon last year & cant remember it being loud or intimidating
Andy, mate, stop making yourself look a complete mug.
Do you know everyone in the West Stand? No. But they're all in the "Prawn Sandwich Brigade" are they?
You've already excused my old man (thanks again, very kind of you - it means a lot) so who's to say he's the only "deserving case" for your charity.
Please, PLEASE, we get your point - you would like the atmosphere to be better. Don't think anyone is disagreeing with that. I just don't see why you have to slag of our own to make it. Surely you'd be better slagging off the people who don't come anymore rather than the people that do.
Yes, I understand perfectly well what you are saying. However, you seem incapable of seeing the other side of the argument.
And, for the record, that's not exactly all you have said. But I really don't have the energy or the inclination to keep engaging with you and going on about it. I sit in the West Stand you see - I clearly don't even have enough passion to have a row on an internet message board.
[cite]Posted By: CafcAndy[/cite]Not questioning you being a fan of our club, just the way you support it. But as i also said, all to there own, and it's what makes us a great little family nobody club.
That's a disgraceful comment from a so-called Charlton supporter. I really think you should take that back.
[cite]Posted By: CafcAndy[/cite]how many sets of fans would let 20 or so Millwall large it up in the home end?
Not sure this really happened.
[cite]Posted By: CafcAndy[/cite]My 18th year as a ST holder and the match day experiance at the Valley has just got boring and more of a chore.
I didn't want to insult the weststanders with this thread but it seems I have, lets be honest we all know the west doesn't have an atmosphere of any kind, oh wait yes it does, a boring one.
You may think I'm mad but I believe atmosphere from the stands DOES affect the players, so why not make noise from all three stands and let our boys know we're behind them, and also let the opposition players we don't like them (by this I mean don't want them scoring etc). This isn't being a muppet or being yobish this is just doing our bit for the team.
Long live the covered end H block, J block and all the fans who're on there feet all game expression their passion for the team vocally, we need more abuse at opposition players and more songs like " SEEEEMMMMMMMMEEEEEDDDDOOOOOOOO OOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHH" to let them know we love them.
Prime example last season, our boys were completely gutless at the New Den, the occasion got to them and so did songs like "No one likes us" ringing in their ears all game. Also Swindon at home playoff, our fans booing Swindon players everytime they got the ball, it was terrific, and we outplayed them for 90 minutes, albeit a cock up let them back in the game. It felt like a Football atmosphere!
On the verge of sourcing one of these badboys on EBAY. Looking forward to supping on some weak, milky tea at the Walsall game whilst you chumps freeze your gonads off.
[cite]Posted By: BR7_addick[/cite]I didn't want to insult the weststanders with this thread but it seems I have, lets be honest we all know the west doesn't have an atmosphere of any kind, oh wait yes it does, a boring one.
You may think I'm mad but I believe atmosphere from the stands DOES affect the players!
[cite]Posted By: CafcAndy[/cite]IA, you look in the championship and clubs similar to us in league 1, most ground create great atmospheres, Southampton being one of the best in this league. Intimidating in a friendly way, just like the Valley used to be.
I went to one Championship match this season, at the City Ground in Nottingham, and the away fans (Sheffield United) outsang the home fans.
That was apparently a good atmosphere according to Forest fan friends, and a good home atmosphere for the Championship. I went to Leeds and Huddersfield last season, and didn't think much of their home fans, apart from when Leeds played their camp song to get them going. There's been a dire atmosphere at Hillsborough so far this season, though that may change when Mandaric sacks Irvine. Peterborough were quiet.
You say Southampton and "clubs similar to us in league 1". I'm guessing Wednesday and Peterborough aren't similar enough to us, so how many of the 24 clubs in this division are?
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That's what you said the last three times.
Can't help it.
Imagine that, doing something for 40 years that you have no "passion" for.
What's that got to do with anything? He doesn't sing now and so, according to some, that makes him less of a fan because he doesn't have "passion". I'll let him know that next time I see him. Having had a stroke a year or so ago, having to go into hospital for tests because he's been passing blood and dragging himself up to the top of the West Stand with a shot knee every home game then I'm sure he'll give a fuck what the likes of you think mate.
Now what about the bloke that sits in front of me. He's getting on a bit now and has to keep shuffling off for a piss two or three times a half. Is he excused duty too?
I can accept the West sitters don't have to sing and can just watch the game but does it not hurt when we are chanting "red army" just to clap along to the singing?
I used to clap myself to this when I was sitting in the west stand but no one joined me nearer.
Cafcandy, Jazzy etc... Personally i would love the valley to be rocking every home game but at the end of the day near enough every stadium you go away to away fans usually outsing home fans. Its fact & the valley is no different. Get used to it cause it wont ever change. Some people, not saying you 2, but some people say i pay my money to watch the game i have the right to boo my team if they dont deliver. Well swisdom etc in the west have the right to watch the match how they want whether its in silence or singing. Its there choice. They've paid there money. Other peoples parents like Off_Its for example who have been following us for years & years choose to watch the game rather than sing. Big deal. There the ones that have been going before you were born spending there money to follow us but by supporting the club in a different way to you 2. They are no way whatsoever less passionate about charlton than the ones that want to make a bit of noise.
What do you suggest. Kick them out & see an even more emptier stadium so away fans can rip the sh*t out of us even more. They were here in the prem years & way beyond that & if i remember the atmosphere was good back then.
Oh & by the way i went southamon last year & cant remember it being loud or intimidating
Do you know everyone in the West Stand? No. But they're all in the "Prawn Sandwich Brigade" are they?
You've already excused my old man (thanks again, very kind of you - it means a lot) so who's to say he's the only "deserving case" for your charity.
Please, PLEASE, we get your point - you would like the atmosphere to be better. Don't think anyone is disagreeing with that. I just don't see why you have to slag of our own to make it. Surely you'd be better slagging off the people who don't come anymore rather than the people that do.
Now that's the real issue ... it ain't about those who go ... quiet or not, these are the hardcore fans these days.
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And, for the record, that's not exactly all you have said. But I really don't have the energy or the inclination to keep engaging with you and going on about it. I sit in the West Stand you see - I clearly don't even have enough passion to have a row on an internet message board.
Bottom line is I support my club. Don't really give a fuck what you think.
They're not very good at "larging it up" because I've never seen or heard them. And if they are "Millwall" why are they at The Valley?
That's a disgraceful comment from a so-called Charlton supporter. I really think you should take that back.
Not sure this really happened.
I trust you've taken WSS's advice on board ?
You may think I'm mad but I believe atmosphere from the stands DOES affect the players, so why not make noise from all three stands and let our boys know we're behind them, and also let the opposition players we don't like them (by this I mean don't want them scoring etc). This isn't being a muppet or being yobish this is just doing our bit for the team.
Long live the covered end H block, J block and all the fans who're on there feet all game expression their passion for the team vocally, we need more abuse at opposition players and more songs like " SEEEEMMMMMMMMEEEEEDDDDOOOOOOOO OOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHH" to let them know we love them.
Prime example last season, our boys were completely gutless at the New Den, the occasion got to them and so did songs like "No one likes us" ringing in their ears all game. Also Swindon at home playoff, our fans booing Swindon players everytime they got the ball, it was terrific, and we outplayed them for 90 minutes, albeit a cock up let them back in the game. It felt like a Football atmosphere!
YES YES YES!
I went to one Championship match this season, at the City Ground in Nottingham, and the away fans (Sheffield United) outsang the home fans.
That was apparently a good atmosphere according to Forest fan friends, and a good home atmosphere for the Championship. I went to Leeds and Huddersfield last season, and didn't think much of their home fans, apart from when Leeds played their camp song to get them going. There's been a dire atmosphere at Hillsborough so far this season, though that may change when Mandaric sacks Irvine. Peterborough were quiet.
You say Southampton and "clubs similar to us in league 1". I'm guessing Wednesday and Peterborough aren't similar enough to us, so how many of the 24 clubs in this division are?