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  • Swisdom said:

    mogodon said:

    Swisdom said:

    Addickted said:

    So the Burger Flipper in Chief is Project Managing this complex construction project?

    God help us.

    No Tony is not Project Managing it. There's a specialist company doing so and they report in to Tony and the team
    His career so far should put him in a great position to spot any problems way before they happen. All good then ...
    That's why he employs experts in their respective fields. A good manager doesn't "DO" much - they surround themselves with people better than them at specific tasks.



    There is huge slice of irony you mentioning that and Tony Cahones in the same paragraph

    It's Katrien and Tony's precise fear of people who can do a better job than them that has lead us into this mess.
    Beat me to it ...exactly!
  • Swisdom said:

    Addickted said:

    So the Burger Flipper in Chief is Project Managing this complex construction project?

    God help us.

    No Tony is not Project Managing it. There's a specialist company doing so and they report in to Tony and the team
    He can send someone to film the work, save on meetings and reports.
  • Swisdom said:

    mogodon said:

    Swisdom said:

    Addickted said:

    So the Burger Flipper in Chief is Project Managing this complex construction project?

    God help us.

    No Tony is not Project Managing it. There's a specialist company doing so and they report in to Tony and the team
    His career so far should put him in a great position to spot any problems way before they happen. All good then ...
    That's why he employs experts in their respective fields. A good manager doesn't "DO" much - they surround themselves with people better than them at specific tasks.



    To an extent, yes, and to an extent, no. Software has in the last ten years moved away from the factory line/construction model of Project managers telling people what to do. I don't know what his official job title/description is but obviously it shouldn't involve him out there with a shovel digging a trench. That said, one of the big reasons software moved away from a PM model is because of the HUGE disconnect that had emerged between those doing the doing, those doing the managing, and outside stakeholders.
  • From Sue Parkes written on May 10:

    "work at Training Ground is continuing - I asked Tony Keohane (he is in charge of the project) a couple of weeks ago. It seems there are still some tenders to come in for parts of the work. We already have 2 new pitches and the reservoir completed (this will provide an irrigation scheme for the pitches which is not only cost effective but also conserves water). The logistics of getting the works completed whilst still maintaining a fully functional training ground is a mammoth task. The work to pitches/reservoir saw over 250 lorries come into the TG over a 3 week period to deliver materials. As the only entrance is via a very busy cul de sac of 96 properties where there is also an entrance to Greenwich University campus, a Green Chain Walk and a daily Nursery School you will see that to continue on a daily basis is almost impossible and has to be worked in phases. Tony told me that the next phase would see at least as many vehicles again and should start in a couple of weeks (any time now I would expect). I assume it was to tie in with the Players summer break. This next project I believe is a semi permanent access road. Seems it is all good. As soon as I can give more details I will do so."

    1 minute later:

    "Apologies, I have just been told that due to the wet weather there is still a small amount of work to be completed with regard to the reservoir. Part of this work entails erecting a safety fence around the perimeter."

    So I've requested access to the group at least once. I'm quite a civil person (don't look at anything I've posted on CL, just trust me). Still no approval. I'd at least like to know what all the fuss is about. Can someone put in a good word? My name is Alex and I live in Eugene, OR and my profile picture is me with The Twilight Sad (currently touring with The Cure, meant to be an excellent gig, go check them out! Shameless plug over).
  • Swisdom said:

    mogodon said:

    Swisdom said:

    Addickted said:

    So the Burger Flipper in Chief is Project Managing this complex construction project?

    God help us.

    No Tony is not Project Managing it. There's a specialist company doing so and they report in to Tony and the team
    His career so far should put him in a great position to spot any problems way before they happen. All good then ...
    That's why he employs experts in their respective fields. A good manager doesn't "DO" much - they surround themselves with people better than them at specific tasks.



    When did you turn into such a regime apologist?
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    Blimey, does Chris know?

    Know? Chris arranged it!
  • CAFCsayer said:

    Swisdom said:

    mogodon said:

    Swisdom said:

    Addickted said:

    So the Burger Flipper in Chief is Project Managing this complex construction project?

    God help us.

    No Tony is not Project Managing it. There's a specialist company doing so and they report in to Tony and the team
    His career so far should put him in a great position to spot any problems way before they happen. All good then ...
    That's why he employs experts in their respective fields. A good manager doesn't "DO" much - they surround themselves with people better than them at specific tasks.



    When did you turn into such a regime apologist?
    I am not quite sure where you've got that I am an apologist for the regime. I am merely pointing out that this is how many - and indeed this - project are working.

    Sorry if it doesn't fit the agenda

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  • But it's not working.
  • Addickted said:

    But it's not working.

    And currently neither are the builders
  • Builder's bullshit - LOL.
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  • I wonder if they paid an extortionate deposit upfront "for materials" and now the builder has done a bunk.
  • CAFCsayer said:

    Swisdom said:

    mogodon said:

    Swisdom said:

    Addickted said:

    So the Burger Flipper in Chief is Project Managing this complex construction project?

    God help us.

    No Tony is not Project Managing it. There's a specialist company doing so and they report in to Tony and the team
    His career so far should put him in a great position to spot any problems way before they happen. All good then ...
    That's why he employs experts in their respective fields. A good manager doesn't "DO" much - they surround themselves with people better than them at specific tasks.



    When did you turn into such a regime apologist?
    Or Colin1961/Bexley has another username?

    Probably mates.
  • CAFCsayer said:

    Swisdom said:

    mogodon said:

    Swisdom said:

    Addickted said:

    So the Burger Flipper in Chief is Project Managing this complex construction project?

    God help us.

    No Tony is not Project Managing it. There's a specialist company doing so and they report in to Tony and the team
    His career so far should put him in a great position to spot any problems way before they happen. All good then ...
    That's why he employs experts in their respective fields. A good manager doesn't "DO" much - they surround themselves with people better than them at specific tasks.



    When did you turn into such a regime apologist?
    Or Colin1961/Bexley has another username?

    Probably mates.
    That's low. Well below the belt actually

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  • Addickted said:

    Addickted said:

    But it's not working.

    And currently neither are the builders
    Have a word with yourself mate!
  • Addickted said:
    That's not fair. Swisdom has a day job to do as well you know and he's only got one shovel, which he leant to his neighbour a couple of weeks back and is still waiting for it to be returned.

    Plus he's doing it all for free.

    Honestly, some people are so ungrateful.
  • Off_it said:

    I wonder if they paid an extortionate deposit upfront "for materials" and now the builder has done a bunk.

    More like the club have not paid the builder.
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    If Katrien was a builder...edit (allegedly)

    That is actually her isn't it.

    "It wasn't my fault. I was supplied with English wellies, instead of the superior Belgian ones."
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  • But i will learn from the mistakes that have been made.
  • Thank you for putting in context so beautifully.
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