End of the day Palace kept a roof over our head they can't help that Simon Jordan has made you all hate the whole club? Now jordan is gone I wish palace the best (so long as we do better)
[cite]Posted By: Dazzler21[/cite]End of the day Palace kept a roof over our head they can't help that Simon Jordan has made you all hate the whole club? Now jordan is gone I wish palace the best (so long as we do better)
Kept a roof over our head? They tried to run us out of business while we were there.
[cite]Posted By: Dazzler21[/cite]End of the day Palace kept a roof over our head they can't help that Simon Jordan has made you all hate the whole club? Now jordan is gone I wish palace the best (so long as we do better)
Can't work out if you are trying to be "dunny" or not with that post. But I'll give you the benefit, for now.
Not what I understood from my stepdads dad who worked the docks after the war he said on the southside you were either Charlton or Palace. Though he's dead now so I can't check that with him. I am happy to be proved wrong though! (and it sounds like I am)
And Stu of hu5 why do you always have to dig at me? What is your problem?
"that will be the last ever Millwall game i'll ever work because personally I don't like the idea of going to a game and having things fly past my ears for the sake of a football match.... Obviously there were some Millwall fans who weren't like that and it spoils it for them, but today I actually felt petrified at a football match. The last time I felt like that was Charlton away in the League Cup and I never went to The Valley again after that!!"
worth a read... gave me my only chuckle of the day
[cite]Posted By: ISawLeaburnScore[/cite]there you go
31 chuffing pages of scare-mongering, paranoia, posing and the grim realisation that nothing worth a w happened
Pretty much like on here then!
Hilarious the hype it gets. Anyone would think it was a remake of bloody Zulu when Millwall play rather than a bunch of blokes from the same side of the river.
See worse on a night out in bromley or croydon than at football nowdays if you dont go looking for it.
How some of our support can still say we have no reason to hate palace is beyond me, I remember even way back to the late 70's/early 80's when I started going to the Valley that we had a rivalry, and the events of the past 25 years have increased it three fold, just add them up. 1985 & the humiliating move to Selhurst, Noades trying to sell us down the river and dismantle the club, Chris Armstrong, Darren Pitcher, Ian Dowie, Fortunes equaliser to relegate them, Tango man v Varney.
Millwall have been our traditional rivals for much longer, but there is a massive cross over of family & friends between us & Millwall, look at how many people can say that their dad/grandad/uncles etc went to The Den one week and The Valley next week, that would never have happened with palarse.
Spot on, but this is why it matters so much more to me that Millwall do badly. Palace, however annoying they are just don't compare. Millwall doing well can have a direct impact on the success of Charlton and vica versa. Palace and west Ham's fortunes have minimal impact on either us or Millwall and although Millwall have a rivalry with West Ham, what happens on West Ham's pitch is irrelevant to them really. If Millwall or Charlton went out of business, it would give the other club a massive boost, however unwanted that may be as we share a large chunk of south east london, catchment wise.
[cite]Posted By: Bexley Dan[/cite]How some of our support can still say we have no reason to hate palace is beyond me, I remember even way back to the late 70's/early 80's when I started going to the Valley that we had a rivalry, and the events of the past 25 years have increased it three fold, just add them up. 1985 & the humiliating move to Selhurst, Noades trying to sell us down the river and dismantle the club, Chris Armstrong, Darren Pitcher, Ian Dowie, Fortunes equaliser to relegate them, Tango man v Varney.
Millwall have been our traditional rivals for much longer, but there is a massive cross over of family & friends between us & Millwall, look at how many people can say that their dad/grandad/uncles etc went to The Den one week and The Valley next week, that would never have happened with palarse.
Spot on, but this is why it matters so much more to me that Millwall do badly. Palace, however annoying they are just don't compare. Millwall doing well can have a direct impact on the success of Charlton and vica versa. Palace and west Ham's fortunes have minimal impact on either us or Millwall and although Millwall have a rivalry with West Ham, what happens on West Ham's pitch is irrelevant to them really. If Millwall or Charlton went out of business, it would give the other club a massive boost, however unwanted that may be as we share a large chunk of south east london, catchment wise.
Do you really think that Millwall lost a lot of their regular support when Charlton were doing well?
And do you think that a lot of your missing 10k are now coming down The Den?
I don't see that at all. Times have changed. It's not like the 50's, 60's and 70's when tickets were dirt cheap and groups of mates from local areas would pop down to watch the nearest home game one weekend.
There must be some fickle fans who may have switched to Charlton when you were on the up...there may be fickle fans who are now watching football at The Den...but to the extent that it's positively or negatively impacting either club that much? I'd be shocked if it was.
[cite]Posted By: Sparrows Lane Lion[/cite]I don't see that at all. Times have changed. It's not like the 50's, 60's and 70's when tickets were dirt cheap and groups of mates from local areas would pop down to watch the nearest home game one weekend.
I am sure you are right there. When we did the Valley Party thing, and got out on the streets to talk to people in Greenwich Borough, it seemed obvious to me and everybody else involved that the 'lapsed' fans weren't going anywhere else. They'd just stopped going to football. They said they'd come back if we returned home and they did. That probably accounted for the first 15,000 or so. Hardcore who went to Selhurst plus another 8,000. Then the extra 9,000 or so in the FAPL were made up of a younger generation, and some 'plastics'. Just my guess. Airman Brown would know a lot more, but I think he'd agree with you too.
But I also agree with Bexley Dan about the reasons to hate Palace. I have done since the late 60's and see no reason to stop now.
[cite]Posted By: PalaceHater[/cite]Well well well it seems like lightning does strike twice. Palace bullying innocent fans again - this time a dad with his child...
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And if you know your history...
Can't work out if you are trying to be "dunny" or not with that post. But I'll give you the benefit, for now.
Maybe I'm still drunk from last night but millwall are our official rivals from the dockyard days...
Them good old days you remember so fondly???
Guess you're just being a 'dummy' then, kept a roof over our heads, don't make me laugh.
And Stu of hu5 why do you always have to dig at me? What is your problem?
worth a read... gave me my only chuckle of the day
31 chuffing pages of scare-mongering, paranoia, posing and the grim realisation that nothing worth a w happened
Pretty much like on here then!
Hilarious the hype it gets. Anyone would think it was a remake of bloody Zulu when Millwall play rather than a bunch of blokes from the same side of the river.
See worse on a night out in bromley or croydon than at football nowdays if you dont go looking for it.
Crystal??????????????? I bet your drinking that!!!! Happy honeymoon mate, even though you may be over 50, you deserve to lose your virginity!! lol
Cheers mate
an escort to a home game well I never, i love the dude in the background as well, very Red Star
Millwall have been our traditional rivals for much longer, but there is a massive cross over of family & friends between us & Millwall, look at how many people can say that their dad/grandad/uncles etc went to The Den one week and The Valley next week, that would never have happened with palarse.
Spot on, but this is why it matters so much more to me that Millwall do badly. Palace, however annoying they are just don't compare. Millwall doing well can have a direct impact on the success of Charlton and vica versa. Palace and west Ham's fortunes have minimal impact on either us or Millwall and although Millwall have a rivalry with West Ham, what happens on West Ham's pitch is irrelevant to them really. If Millwall or Charlton went out of business, it would give the other club a massive boost, however unwanted that may be as we share a large chunk of south east london, catchment wise.
Do you really think that Millwall lost a lot of their regular support when Charlton were doing well?
And do you think that a lot of your missing 10k are now coming down The Den?
I don't see that at all. Times have changed. It's not like the 50's, 60's and 70's when tickets were dirt cheap and groups of mates from local areas would pop down to watch the nearest home game one weekend.
There must be some fickle fans who may have switched to Charlton when you were on the up...there may be fickle fans who are now watching football at The Den...but to the extent that it's positively or negatively impacting either club that much? I'd be shocked if it was.
I am sure you are right there. When we did the Valley Party thing, and got out on the streets to talk to people in Greenwich Borough, it seemed obvious to me and everybody else involved that the 'lapsed' fans weren't going anywhere else. They'd just stopped going to football. They said they'd come back if we returned home and they did. That probably accounted for the first 15,000 or so. Hardcore who went to Selhurst plus another 8,000. Then the extra 9,000 or so in the FAPL were made up of a younger generation, and some 'plastics'. Just my guess. Airman Brown would know a lot more, but I think he'd agree with you too.
But I also agree with Bexley Dan about the reasons to hate Palace. I have done since the late 60's and see no reason to stop now.
http://www.holmesdale.net/page.php?id=106&tid=104071&page=1
Atleast no-one is "celebrating" this Scum.