It gives me goose bumps watching that match through again.
That was The Valley where I watched all my early matches ..... the big East terrace, a packed Covered End, the singing, even the old scoreboards alongside the touchline. Just to see the archaic old stand roof lit up in the floodlights - bleddy 'ell, it was proper Charlton in those days, warts an' all.
I think my school mates and I ran on the pitch at the end and one of them was caught by the old bill and escorted off, which was great as it was on the TV.
For the double sending off- I was standing on that funny little terrace on the west side between the main stand and the covered end. I would have sworn the punch up was only 10/15 yards from me.
As 3 posts have confirmed it was closer to the East bank I must bow to the inevitable- memory's not what it was!
For the double sending off- I was standing on that funny little terrace on the west side between the main stand and the covered end. I would have sworn the punch up was only 10/15 yards from me.
As 3 posts have confirmed it was closer to the East bank I must bow to the inevitable- memory's not what it was!
It was definitely half way down the South end of the pitch, before they got to the penalty box and left of centre ie quite central, but on the East side.
For the double sending off- I was standing on that funny little terrace on the west side between the main stand and the covered end. I would have sworn the punch up was only 10/15 yards from me.
As 3 posts have confirmed it was closer to the East bank I must bow to the inevitable- memory's not what it was!
It was definitely half way down the South end of the pitch, before they got to the penalty box and left of centre ie quite central, but on the East side.
... and 28 mins in is Derek's performance against Sunderland in 1975 including a goal and a sending off along with Valiant House nearing completion and Andy Nelson. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDpM6afXcDw
Thanks so much for posting this, McCartney. I can hardly believe my eyes. That was my first ever match, the match that started my love of Charlton, aged nine. I had no idea it was on TV so it was wonderful to see that match, especially as you posted it on the day that my dad would have celebrated his 83rd birthday had he still been with us. I was hoping that the camera may have picked him and me out but we were on the East Terrace, a third of the way up, Dad probably balancing me on one of the crash barriers, so no chance really.
We'd parked down near the river, in a road that we would park in for the rest of his life. We bought a programme from an old chap in a long white coat who sold them on the main road (A206) near Penhall Road - he sold them there for years. Oh, hang on, no, that first game we went by train - I remember because on the platform, whilst waiting for the train home, a fan gave me a rosette to keep, probably because my dad had told him it was my first game.
When I got home, I seem to remember telling my mum everything about the trip and probably that Derek Hales was my favourite player. It was my dad's first visit to a football match too (he was a rugby man). He'd asked me if I would like to start supporting a club because he'd noticed my interest in football, and I'd asked if it could be either Arsenal or Fulham. He ignored that (thank God) and chose Charlton because he was a Trinity House river pilot (Captain Bob) and knew where The Valley was as he saw it from the bridges of the ships he piloted.
Sorry for going on but that footage has brought back very special memories. Thanks again.
... and 28 mins in is Derek's performance against Sunderland in 1975 including a goal and a sending off along with Valiant House nearing completion and Andy Nelson. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDpM6afXcDw
Thanks so much for posting this, McCartney. I can hardly believe my eyes. That was my first ever match, the match that started my love of Charlton, aged nine. I had no idea it was on TV so it was wonderful to see that match, especially as you posted it on the day that my dad would have celebrated his 83rd birthday had he still been with us. I was hoping that the camera may have picked him and me out but we were on the East Terrace, a third of the way up, Dad probably balancing me on one of the crash barriers, so no chance really.
We'd parked down near the river, in a road that we would park in for the rest of his life. We bought a programme from an old chap in a long white coat who sold them on the main road (A206) near Penhall Road - he sold them there for years. Oh, hang on, no, that first game we went by train - I remember because on the platform, whilst waiting for the train home, a fan gave me a rosette to keep, probably because my dad had told him it was my first game.
When I got home, I seem to remember telling my mum everything about the trip and probably that Derek Hales was my favourite player. It was my dad's first visit to a football match too (he was a rugby man). He'd asked me if I would like to start supporting a club because he'd noticed my interest in football, and I'd asked if it could be either Arsenal or Fulham. He ignored that (thank God) and chose Charlton because he was a Trinity House river pilot (Captain Bob) and knew where The Valley was as he saw it from the bridges of the ships he piloted.
Sorry for going on but that footage has brought back very special memories. Thanks again.
For the double sending off- I was standing on that funny little terrace on the west side between the main stand and the covered end. I would have sworn the punch up was only 10/15 yards from me.
As 3 posts have confirmed it was closer to the East bank I must bow to the inevitable- memory's not what it was!
It was definitely half way down the South end of the pitch, before they got to the penalty box and left of centre ie quite central, but on the East side.
Indeed it was.
Agreed. I was stood virtually in line with it and was standing on the east terrace. It was a proper punch up - not handbags!!
... and 28 mins in is Derek's performance against Sunderland in 1975 including a goal and a sending off along with Valiant House nearing completion and Andy Nelson. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDpM6afXcDw
Thanks so much for posting this, McCartney. I can hardly believe my eyes. That was my first ever match, the match that started my love of Charlton, aged nine. I had no idea it was on TV so it was wonderful to see that match, especially as you posted it on the day that my dad would have celebrated his 83rd birthday had he still been with us. I was hoping that the camera may have picked him and me out but we were on the East Terrace, a third of the way up, Dad probably balancing me on one of the crash barriers, so no chance really.
We'd parked down near the river, in a road that we would park in for the rest of his life. We bought a programme from an old chap in a long white coat who sold them on the main road (A206) near Penhall Road - he sold them there for years. Oh, hang on, no, that first game we went by train - I remember because on the platform, whilst waiting for the train home, a fan gave me a rosette to keep, probably because my dad had told him it was my first game.
When I got home, I seem to remember telling my mum everything about the trip and probably that Derek Hales was my favourite player. It was my dad's first visit to a football match too (he was a rugby man). He'd asked me if I would like to start supporting a club because he'd noticed my interest in football, and I'd asked if it could be either Arsenal or Fulham. He ignored that (thank God) and chose Charlton because he was a Trinity House river pilot (Captain Bob) and knew where The Valley was as he saw it from the bridges of the ships he piloted.
Sorry for going on but that footage has brought back very special memories. Thanks again.
Glad you enjoyed it Captainbob and a lovely post. I was down the front behind the goal of the then south terrace and I don't remember there being that many Sunderland supporters. I knew it was on telly, a big thing for us in the 70's but apart from the Hales goal have never seen the rest until last night. It not just the game but the look of the ground even Jimmy Trotter makes an appearance. Its memories like yours that make up the whole tapestry of supporting a club. I too went with me Dad whose still with us but not in good health. On a happier note me and me sister took my nephew to his first game last Saturday and he loved it. Of course he had a first game defeat and a rosette as well.
that is a brilliant bit of film and thanks to all who shared their memories. Nostalgia and the knob jockies who run our club aside it still stands out as a superb social history of what makes Charlton so special.
I wish I could go back to those days. Entertaining football, the buzz of the covered end, checking out how many away fans there were, the threat of violence, terraces, chanting. I could go on.
This is my 50th season but attending matches now is so different. Back then I couldn't wait for the next match. Now I just turn up, not expecting to be entertained or enjoy myself. Those most recent Tuesday night games, I didn't want to go but did so out of some false loyalty. Not looking forward to Saturday. Is it just me that feels this way if you experienced that special 70s/80s atmosphere? Roland out.
I wish I could go back to those days. Entertaining football, the buzz of the covered end, checking out how many away fans there were, the threat of violence, terraces, chanting. I could go on.
This is my 50th season but attending matches now is so different. Back then I couldn't wait for the next match. Now I just turn up, not expecting to be entertained or enjoy myself. Those most recent Tuesday night games, I didn't want to go but did so out of some false loyalty. Not looking forward to Saturday. Is it just me that feels this way if you experienced that special 70s/80s atmosphere? Roland out.
Definitely not just you. If there’s a part of life where you wish it would remain so forever, it is this. Even more than the Premier years in some ways !
Just watched it again so many brilliant points, and really must download a copy for the museum.
Not in order but my highlights,
A Killer goal and sending off
Jack Taylor of World Cup final infamy reffing
A balding Pop Robson (no 70s game should be without him)
Brian Moore commentating
A brief glimpse of returning legend Jimmy Trotter
The Valley in all its decaying magnificence
Packed unsegregated terraces
Audible clapping an opponents goal whilst at the same time Charlton Aggro rings out
Pitch invasion at the end
Manager Bob Stokoe holding up a simple sub number instead of some twat struggling to operate a subway sponsored digiboard
Andy Nelson being honest post match about Halesy and not trotting out 'he's not that sort of player'. (Though he did claim 'he didnt see it it' & 'he's a model professional)
I wish I could go back to those days. Entertaining football, the buzz of the covered end, checking out how many away fans there were, the threat of violence, terraces, chanting. I could go on.
This is my 50th season but attending matches now is so different. Back then I couldn't wait for the next match. Now I just turn up, not expecting to be entertained or enjoy myself. Those most recent Tuesday night games, I didn't want to go but did so out of some false loyalty. Not looking forward to Saturday. Is it just me that feels this way if you experienced that special 70s/80s atmosphere? Roland out.
Same here. No mobiles or internet. Our social life just revolved around football.
Just watched it again so many brilliant points, and really must download a copy for the museum.
Not in order but my highlights,
A Killer goal and sending off
Jack Taylor of World Cup final infamy reffing
A balding Pop Robson (no 70s game should be without him)
Brian Moore commentating
A brief glimpse of returning legend Jimmy Trotter
The Valley in all its decaying magnificence
Packed unsegregated terraces
Audible clapping an opponents goal whilst at the same time Charlton Aggro rings out
Pitch invasion at the end
Manager Bob Stokoe holding up a simple sub number instead of some twat struggling to operate a subway sponsored digiboard
Andy Nelson being honest post match about Halesy and not trotting out 'he's not that sort of player'. (Though he did claim 'he didnt see it it' & 'he's a model professional)
All in all the best clip posted on here for ages
Players with 1 - 11 on their shirts; no names or sponsors.
All good stuff but imagine the outcry on here now at the result, the defending, the needless/cowardly sending off and the goalie "flapping" .....
There were plenty of crap games back then but the simplified tactics seemed to make games more open and watchable. Terraces definitely aided those with violent intentions but they brought the atmosphere to much higher levels, even in small crowds. They also made each ground unique and instantly recognisable....unlike the blandness of today's grounds.
I love watching youtube clips of The Big Match from the 70's and early 80's. Not just the few Charlton games that were shown but all of the London clubs.
Not very PC this but.. there was a right old punch up after the game outside the RoD between Woolwich/Charlton and Charlton/Charlton because Woolwich couldn't be bothered to have a go at Sunderland and Charlton wanted to but were outnumbered. This was the first time i'd seen our lot fighting each other.
Heard that Hales was waiting for Flanagan in the dressing room to remonstrate further, and that they had to keep Flanagan in the Home Dressing room to seperate them.
So where was Killer while Flanagan was in the home dressing room ?
many thanks for posting that, my first game too. We got there at 12.30 as we wanted to get a place down the front behind the goal - bit too keen....Mind you we saw the early Sunderland fans get to the back of the Covered end and start singing, then the Charlton boys forming up at the back of East Terrace and chase them off. Loads of big "lionels" flapping from side to side, high waistband jeans, silk scarves round your wrist. bum ead haircuts, and collars big enough to hang glide from. The other advantage of getting there early was I've just seen a glimpse of myself at one of the corners. Haven't changed a bit...
I was there, standing on the small terrace between the Covered End and the “Main Stand”. 22,000 - more like 30. Loved that team and those days at The Valley.
I was there sitting on the roof of the canteen on the building site behind the Sunderland fans.
I was there watching the 1-1 draw with Maidstone with my dear old Grandad and remember he nearly wet himself laughing - whilst I was near to crying (my two heroes fighting wasn't the best). I also recall Dickie Guy (Wimbledon non league hero) was in goal for Maidstone unless my memory is playing tricks. We also won the replay 2-1 and I think the floodlights failed for a bit in that game - again my memory could be playing tricks.
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It gives me goose bumps watching that match through again.
That was The Valley where I watched all my early matches ..... the big East terrace, a packed Covered End, the singing, even the old scoreboards alongside the touchline. Just to see the archaic old stand roof lit up in the floodlights - bleddy 'ell, it was proper Charlton in those days, warts an' all.
I would have sworn the punch up was only 10/15 yards from me.
As 3 posts have confirmed it was closer to the East bank I must bow to the inevitable- memory's not what it was!
We'd parked down near the river, in a road that we would park in for the rest of his life. We bought a programme from an old chap in a long white coat who sold them on the main road (A206) near Penhall Road - he sold them there for years. Oh, hang on, no, that first game we went by train - I remember because on the platform, whilst waiting for the train home, a fan gave me a rosette to keep, probably because my dad had told him it was my first game.
When I got home, I seem to remember telling my mum everything about the trip and probably that Derek Hales was my favourite player. It was my dad's first visit to a football match too (he was a rugby man). He'd asked me if I would like to start supporting a club because he'd noticed my interest in football, and I'd asked if it could be either Arsenal or Fulham. He ignored that (thank God) and chose Charlton because he was a Trinity House river pilot (Captain Bob) and knew where The Valley was as he saw it from the bridges of the ships he piloted.
Sorry for going on but that footage has brought back very special memories. Thanks again.
Don't apologise about going on - posts like yours one of the main reasons I love reading Charlton Life
I wish I could go back to those days. Entertaining football, the buzz of the covered end, checking out how many away fans there were, the threat of violence, terraces, chanting. I could go on.
This is my 50th season but attending matches now is so different. Back then I couldn't wait for the next match. Now I just turn up, not expecting to be entertained or enjoy myself. Those most recent Tuesday night games, I didn't want to go but did so out of some false loyalty. Not looking forward to Saturday. Is it just me that feels this way if you experienced that special 70s/80s atmosphere? Roland out.
Not in order but my highlights,
A Killer goal and sending off
Jack Taylor of World Cup final infamy reffing
A balding Pop Robson (no 70s game should be without him)
Brian Moore commentating
A brief glimpse of returning legend Jimmy Trotter
The Valley in all its decaying magnificence
Packed unsegregated terraces
Audible clapping an opponents goal whilst at the same time Charlton Aggro rings out
Pitch invasion at the end
Manager Bob Stokoe holding up a simple sub number instead of some twat struggling to operate a subway sponsored digiboard
Andy Nelson being honest post match about Halesy and not trotting out 'he's not that sort of player'. (Though he did claim 'he didnt see it it' & 'he's a model professional)
All in all the best clip posted on here for ages
No mobiles or internet. Our social life just revolved around football.
No silly, rehearsed celebrations.
Terraces.
No theatrical diving.
No clappers to generate ‘atmosphere’.
There were plenty of crap games back then but the simplified tactics seemed to make games more open and watchable. Terraces definitely aided those with violent intentions but they brought the atmosphere to much higher levels, even in small crowds. They also made each ground unique and instantly recognisable....unlike the blandness of today's grounds.
I love watching youtube clips of The Big Match from the 70's and early 80's. Not just the few Charlton games that were shown but all of the London clubs.
there was a right old punch up after the game outside the RoD between Woolwich/Charlton and Charlton/Charlton because Woolwich couldn't be bothered to have a go at Sunderland and Charlton wanted to but were outnumbered.
This was the first time i'd seen our lot fighting each other.
Strange that the team warmed up at the away end.