that's absolutely shocking, hope the club push this as hard as they can.
As an aside though, we've all thought about it though haven't we ?? :-)
Sat stationary in traffic with two lanes coned off. You look to the left and think 'if i could just squeeze through these cones i could get a quick two miles under my belt here'. Would never give in to the temptation, and it would be just my luck there's a dozy great big JCB in the way 200yds down, but i bet i'm not the only sitting in the traffic thinking it !
[quote][cite]Posted By: AFKABartram[/cite]that's absolutely shocking, hope the club push this as hard as they can.
As an aside though, we've all thought about it though haven't we ?? :-)
Sat stationary in traffic with two lanes coned off. You look to the left and think 'if i could just squeeze through these cones i could get a quick two miles under my belt here'. Would never give in to the temptation, and it would be just my luck there's a dozy great big JCB in the way 200yds down, but i bet i'm not the only sitting in the traffic thinking it ![/quote]
The differance is, we are not daft enough to do it!
Some odd looking bald bloke sticking his fingers up at passers by. Cutting up people going a reasonable speed in the middle lane then going back to the inside lane. There was a young lad (coach driver in the making) on the coach laptop seeing where every other coach was, but still managed to get lost. Even with help from me an others saying what turn it was..but they knew best and carried straight on, getting us to the ground with just 10 mins to spare.
I remember a few years ago the coach got lost coming out of the Blackwall tunnel and drive towards docklands and had to do a u-turn near Bowyers Maconalds, then when we finally got to Old Trafford took us to the home end and in front of several thousand Man U fans had to reverse down a small street with them all laughing at us.
Coach drivers never fail to amaze me. I'm staggered that there hasn't been a major pile up on the A2 in the rush hour, the way some of them drive. Many's the night I got cut up by a Kings Ferry/Reliance vehicle. Chalkwell were the worst I found.
On the coach to and from Austria when I went a few weeks ago was rather scary, on the way there the driver decides to do a slalom between cones at about 60mph, then on the way back was contemplating crossing 5 lanes of the Autobahn to get to a slip road the other side, I swear some of these people learnt to drive in the army
AFKABartram 10 hours ago quote# 32 that's absolutely shocking, hope the club push this as hard as they can.
As an aside though, we've all thought about it though haven't we ?? :-)
Sat stationary in traffic with two lanes coned off. You look to the left and think 'if i could just squeeze through these cones i could get a quick two miles under my belt here'. Would never give in to the temptation, and it would be just my luck there's a dozy great big JCB in the way 200yds down, but i bet i'm not the only sitting in the traffic thinking it !
the thing was we were not in traffic , he hit this dirt path at 55mph he said the signs mislead him
[cite]Posted By: NathanPrior[/cite]On the coach to and from Austria when I went a few weeks ago was rather scary, on the way there the driver decides to do a slalom between cones at about 60mph, then on the way back was contemplating crossing 5 lanes of the Autobahn to get to a slip road the other side, I swear some of these people learnt to drive in the army
Try getting on a transfer coach from Dalaman airport (turkey) travelling to Olu Deniz. 60 mph minimum around steep twisty 1 way mountain rounds
This type of driving has been going on for years ,does not make it correct.
Back in the 80s coming back from Bradford City night cup game,the driver of the coach almost had us bouncing off the walls of the Blackwall Tunnell a letter was also sent too coach firm involved (not the same company) and a few weeks later we had a different coach firm to away games,as i seem to remember.Forgive me if this is incorrect going back almost 25years.
They've built a tunnel through the mountain now so it isn't so bad. I went white water rafting though when I was out there this year and we got picked up in one of those little white bus things. We then proceeded to travel up tge mountain for 2 hours with a sheer drop of probably 200-300 foot all the way up on a road that was only wide enough for one car.
I'm not exaggerating when I say I've never been so scared. It didn't help that the driver spent half the time on his mobile. I was having cold sweats all the way and spent most of the journey with my eyes closed!
[cite]Posted By: leftbehind[/cite]I know i am opening myself up here for a beating BUT
Why tip a driver he is paid a wage?
I dont walk round my office at the end of the day with a bucket asking for tips for the work i have done.
You dont bung your GP a couple of quid when you get your prescription.
The dustman does not knock on your door every week holding his hand out.
Whats different?
I know that redwing take into account the tips the drivers get when it comes to paying them.
I have done a bit of work on the coaches and have to disagree with that. A coach driver gets paid between about £8-£10 per hour depending on the company, very similar to a bus driver.
Since I got my PCV license in 1998 I did bus work before starting my own business. After that I did the occasional bit of agency coach work. I did school runs, school trips, communter runs and days out like at Thorpe Park etc and on those type of trips there isnt a tip run at the end. It only seems to be on football journeys for some reason, I did a couple of jobs for Reliance and tried to get on the Charlton away coach trips so i could get to the games for free but the drivers who get the Charlton jobs seem to be untouchable, its jobs for the boys etc. Theres no way a company could take into account the tips as so few drivers would be affected because most of the work a coach company gets is council, school and communter contract jobs
The only other jobs that would tip would be adult holiday trips abroad but they make up a very small percentage of a companys work again it would be jobs for the boys because they are sought after, similar to mini cabbing in the old days. I used to work for a company called data cars when they were based in Eltham High Street, it was the same old drivers that got fed up with work. Airport Runs, a nice job home or point to point work
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As an aside though, we've all thought about it though haven't we ?? :-)
Sat stationary in traffic with two lanes coned off. You look to the left and think 'if i could just squeeze through these cones i could get a quick two miles under my belt here'. Would never give in to the temptation, and it would be just my luck there's a dozy great big JCB in the way 200yds down, but i bet i'm not the only sitting in the traffic thinking it !
As an aside though, we've all thought about it though haven't we ?? :-)
Sat stationary in traffic with two lanes coned off. You look to the left and think 'if i could just squeeze through these cones i could get a quick two miles under my belt here'. Would never give in to the temptation, and it would be just my luck there's a dozy great big JCB in the way 200yds down, but i bet i'm not the only sitting in the traffic thinking it ![/quote]
The differance is, we are not daft enough to do it!
Against Oldham last year, the drivers amazed me.
Some odd looking bald bloke sticking his fingers up at passers by. Cutting up people going a reasonable speed in the middle lane then going back to the inside lane. There was a young lad (coach driver in the making) on the coach laptop seeing where every other coach was, but still managed to get lost. Even with help from me an others saying what turn it was..but they knew best and carried straight on, getting us to the ground with just 10 mins to spare.
Got hopelessly lost, so much so that he waas driving round a one way system in Nottingham 2 hours before kick off!!!
He eventually got us there for half-time! Having hurtled along country lanes in the pitch black for an hour. Terrifying.
ps: iv got a pcv license, if id been on there i think i would have kicked him out the coach and taken over
God, I miss coach travel!!!
lol intriguing. whats that supposed to mean then?
Sorry, a detailed letter going out?
What to me about my supposed coach ban which never happened sometime in the 80s lol
or on the events of Saturday at Tranmere?
We can all make mistakes, but the driver seems to have acted completly unprofessionally......
Still as you say, let us see what the response is from the company.
Now that IS true Charlton style.
If not, it case of driving without due care & attention.
Thank god I take the train now.
Or should I say verge...?
Good to see the club following up on this plum.
that's absolutely shocking, hope the club push this as hard as they can.
As an aside though, we've all thought about it though haven't we ?? :-)
Sat stationary in traffic with two lanes coned off. You look to the left and think 'if i could just squeeze through these cones i could get a quick two miles under my belt here'. Would never give in to the temptation, and it would be just my luck there's a dozy great big JCB in the way 200yds down, but i bet i'm not the only sitting in the traffic thinking it !
the thing was we were not in traffic , he hit this dirt path at 55mph he said the signs mislead him
Try getting on a transfer coach from Dalaman airport (turkey) travelling to Olu Deniz. 60 mph minimum around steep twisty 1 way mountain rounds
An experience i never want to repeat
Back in the 80s coming back from Bradford City night cup game,the driver of the coach almost had us bouncing off the walls of the Blackwall Tunnell a letter was also sent too coach firm involved (not the same company) and a few weeks later we had a different coach firm to away games,as i seem to remember.Forgive me if this is incorrect going back almost 25years.
I'm not exaggerating when I say I've never been so scared. It didn't help that the driver spent half the time on his mobile. I was having cold sweats all the way and spent most of the journey with my eyes closed!
Why tip a driver he is paid a wage?
I dont walk round my office at the end of the day with a bucket asking for tips for the work i have done.
You dont bung your GP a couple of quid when you get your prescription.
The dustman does not knock on your door every week holding his hand out.
Whats different?
I know that redwing take into account the tips the drivers get when it comes to paying them.
I have done a bit of work on the coaches and have to disagree with that. A coach driver gets paid between about £8-£10 per hour depending on the company, very similar to a bus driver.
Since I got my PCV license in 1998 I did bus work before starting my own business. After that I did the occasional bit of agency coach work. I did school runs, school trips, communter runs and days out like at Thorpe Park etc and on those type of trips there isnt a tip run at the end. It only seems to be on football journeys for some reason, I did a couple of jobs for Reliance and tried to get on the Charlton away coach trips so i could get to the games for free but the drivers who get the Charlton jobs seem to be untouchable, its jobs for the boys etc. Theres no way a company could take into account the tips as so few drivers would be affected because most of the work a coach company gets is council, school and communter contract jobs
The only other jobs that would tip would be adult holiday trips abroad but they make up a very small percentage of a companys work again it would be jobs for the boys because they are sought after, similar to mini cabbing in the old days. I used to work for a company called data cars when they were based in Eltham High Street, it was the same old drivers that got fed up with work. Airport Runs, a nice job home or point to point work