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edited August 2010 in General Charlton
Millwall's first home gate of the season after promotion. Even in League One we'd be embarrassed by that turnout at the Valley these days and you just know people would be on sites like this slating our fans for piss-poor turnouts. Many would be Spanners.
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    If only they had more games against teams that they don't care about that they don't consider to be rivals
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    lol...now,if they had a play-off final match every other week.aint that the time their fans crawl from under stones?
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    edited August 2010
    Mortimerican, we know the reality of that situation and even if they don't like to admit it, so do the Spanners.

    CafcJay, I had to travel home from work on the night they'd been playing at Wembley and by the look of them many were on day-release from some institution or another. Maybe better they get such low attendances really.
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    Eltham, what's your point?

    Are you saying that Millwall are a big club and 13k is embarrassing?

    Or are you struggling to realise that we're just a little SE London club that have small support but are out performing the 'massive' Charlton at the moment?

    You can't have it both ways....boast about you being bigger and saying we are small...then digging us out saying we should be bigger!
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    I'm sure the point was the fact that you are now a Championship side and you really should be attracting a better crowd than you are presently.

    It is'nt all that difficult.

    I have a to admit i have seen you play against the likes of Liverpool, West Ham, Fervencvos (spelling?) & even us & also the cup & Wembley dates & there were Millwall coming out of every knook & cranny.

    So their point is quite valid. Where is everybody??

    You used to blame Theo & the old Bill for fans staying away.

    Whats the excuse now?????
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    tbf who gives a fuck?

    do you have nothing better to do other than make pity little threads about millwall, trying to take the piss out there attendance? i for one couldn't give 2 shits, talk about charlton ffs.
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    [quote][cite]Posted By: Eltham[/cite]Millwall's first home gate of the season after promotion. Even in League One we'd be embarrassed by that turnout at the Valley these days and you just know people would be on sites like this slating our fans for piss-poor turnouts. Many would be Spanners.[/quote]

    Good turn out for Milwall, but who cares?
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    The crowd is pony but give us a few more years at this level and we'll struggle to pull in that many.....
    Millwall fans ( the few with double figures on the brain cell count ) know they have plenty of fairweather support and should have more regular attendees but as it stands atm I know whose league position I'd like to be in
    also I know which team has been the better to watch over the years ,
    This is the first time in my 34 years of watching charlton that the scum have been in a higher league than us , we need normality to return and soon !
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    [cite]Posted By: oohaahmortimer[/cite]Millwall fans ( the few with double figures on the brain cell count )

    The very few.
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    There's only one club that would see millwall sell out the home sections. However we not in thier league.
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    Sparrows, I'm saying Millwall fans love to give it the biggun about being passionate, but most of you can't be arsed to turn-up for games except FA/Carling cup home ties against a big Premiership team, or playoffs. That is my point. If as many Millwall "fans" actually attended games as wear the shirt down the shopping centre on Saturday, or have a sticker in their motor, you'd be in the Prem, playing to 35,000+ every home game. But typical 'Wall, most of it is gob, reflected image and no actual effort. That is my point. Charlton don't pretend to be big, but yeah, we're still bigger than you without trying.
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    Based on the words of a Nillwall song at a club they dnt care about " lets laugh at the Millwall fans" only thing is we cant they dont actually go.
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    [cite]Posted By: KBslittlesis[/cite]
    I have a to admit i have seen you play against the likes of Liverpool, West Ham, Fervencvos (spelling?) & even us & also the cup & Wembley dates & there were Millwall coming out of every knook & cranny.

    Liverpool - 14,500 Millwall, 3,000 Liverpool
    Ferencvaros - 11,300 Millwall, 300 Ferencvaros
    West Ham - 13,000 Millwall, 2,000 West Ham

    So, according to you there were Millwall coming out of every nook & cranny for the above games....attendances would suggest otherwise.

    So now the rest of your questions in your post are now pointless.
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    To be fair to our chums down at the blue seat showroom, we are in the middle of the holiday season as well. Although holidays at the convenience of HM Prison service in their case of course.
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    [cite]Posted By: Eltham[/cite]Sparrows, I'm saying Millwall fans love to give it the biggun about being passionate, but most of you can't be arsed to turn-up for games except FA/Carling cup home ties against a big Premiership team, or playoffs. That is my point. If as many Millwall "fans" actually attended games as wear the shirt down the shopping centre on Saturday, or have a sticker in their motor, you'd be in the Prem, playing to 35,000+ every home game. But typical 'Wall, most of it is gob, reflected image and no actual effort. That is my point. Charlton don't pretend to be big, but yeah, we're still bigger than you without trying.

    I think the fans in the ground give it the biggun about the noise they make...Claridge again singing our praises, Hull fans once again saying they wish they could make as much noise as us....I don't think Millwall give it the biggun about having 30,000 attendances.

    Where would we get 35,000 fans from!!? Are you mad? We're a small little club. We haven't got 35,000 fans that can afford to go week in, week out. Nor have you by the looks of it.

    Are you suggesting we should take your clubs view and attract as many non-Millwall fans as you attracted non-Charlton fans in your "glory" years? All well & good doing that when you're flying high, not so good when you drop down a league and 10,000 of your fans disappear.
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    edited August 2010
    & another point you all seem to have missed the pony away support.

    Capacity is about 18,000/18,500 now, 3,600+ in the away stand, leaves us with say 14400/14,900 home seats.

    Hull brought 800-1000 yesterday, so we were 2k off selling out, not bad.
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    edited August 2010
    Me thinks that ye doth protest too much SPL....... Very amusing. Why let us bait you so much ?
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    My post pointless?

    Not really Sparrow, you showed my point perfectly.

    Those games had far more Millwall than you usually get at an average home game. As you so perfectly showed in the next post. Not far off a sellout.

    Cheers.
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    [cite]Posted By: KBslittlesis[/cite]My post pointless?

    Not really Sparrow, you showed my point perfectly.

    Those games had far more Millwall than you usually get at an average home game. As you so perfectly showed in the next post. Not far off a sellout.

    Cheers.

    Er...go back and read your post again and tell me what your point was.
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    You achieved 35,000 fans when you got to Wembley. Yesterday's gate was an even more dramatic drop than we've suffered since double relegation, and you were promoted. Don't plead poverty- Millwall fans have the same average income as Charlton, and gate prices are comparable. By your own rules you should be matching our attendances.
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    [cite]Posted By: Eltham[/cite]You achieved 35,000 fans when you got to Wembley. Yesterday's gate was an even more dramatic drop than we've suffered since double relegation, and you were promoted. Don't plead poverty- Millwall fans have the same average income as Charlton, and gate prices are comparable. By your own rules you should be matching our attendances.

    hahaha now that is an obvious attempt at fishing for a bite!
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    Oh a thread about attendance figures, how interesting...

    *Turns the kettle on*
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    Can't believe I've just wasted several minutes of my Sunday, reading a petty little thread about why Millwall are a small club in SE London.

    What does it prove? All you've done is upset the Lame Lion.
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    Well, at least it took his mind off the paper work Oggy, they have so much of it to do these days you know.
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    I do find these threads unbelieveably pathetic. Who cares what crowd they get? Can't say I want to socialise with most Millwall fans, nor would I with the majority of football fans.

    I couldn't care what team someone supports or what crowd they get, only if the football they produce is any good - apart from Gillingham. And frankly Kenny Jacket's team at the moment is quality to watch. Shame that Parky didn't sign players like Trotter or Schofield. Hopefully we'll be playing them next season.
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    I wonder how many of those spanner fans were addick fans not so very long ago...
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    these Charlton v Millwall threads are becoming boring. They are in a different league now, lets concentrate on what we have to do.
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    At the present time Millwall are more successful than us on the pitch after many years in relative obscurity. Now we are in relative obscurity, and the success of Millwall should act as motivation for us to improve, just as our success motivated them to better us last season.
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    [cite]Posted By: RedZed333[/cite]I wonder how many of those spanner fans were addick fans not so very long ago...

    None.
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    That's actually a decent crowd by Millwall's standards - higher than any crowd in their last Championship season of 2005/06.

    More to the point, out of nine League One games taking place yesterday eight attracted LESS THAN HALF the opening day attendance at The Valley, with Huddersfield a couple of thousand behind us. Admittedly Sheffield Wednesday were away and Southampton didn't play, but it does point up the financial gap between the bigger clubs and the rest. We also have bigger overheads, but not to the extent that the income isn't a big advantage.

    Orient, for example, have less than a third of our home support.
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