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Kelvin MacKenzie's column in The Sun today - Charlton Pathetic

edited May 2010 in General Charlton
Slagging off Charlton / Bailey and calling for Parky's head in his two bob column in today's Sun, imaginatively under the title 'Charlton Pathetic'. Who the feck does he think he is? Shouldn't be let anywhere near a paper anyway with his track record.
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  • Mans a fool, thought he had gone to support QPR...
  • Supported Millwall first, then Charlton because he was intermidated by Millwall and then QPR because we got relegated to league one. The man is nothing more than a failed wind up merchant.
  • yes its been a spiffing season
  • I wouldn't worry about him, he only writes such articles to provoke a reaction, if he had half a brain he would see that if it wasn't for the amount of goals Bailey has scored this season was one of the main reasons in which we made the play offs
  • Last time i saw the words "Charlton Pathetic" tagged to a Charlton story was in a cartoon in one of more mature newspapers in 1984. The picture showed a bank robber wearing a charlton shirt or scarf and was depicting our need for cash at that time
  • Can we have a whip round, nip down B&Q to pick up some interesting tools and then go to town on this tosser, 'Hostel' style. Yeah its not been a great season but what he's written is complete and utter b*llox. I reckon he hasnt been once this season.
  • Who cares what he thinks?
  • edited May 2010
    Never fails to amaze me how far a modicum of talent and a bucketload of arrogant confidence can take you....
  • A has been, a never was or never will be. Complete and utter tosser.
  • How far had it taken you AFKA
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  • I have just been shown it at work, mans a tool, a complete waste of space, and he would love it if we all got rattled by him, so lets ignore him, or club together and get him a season ticket to QPR as he threatened a year or so ago.
  • couldn't find it but now i have, what a complete tosspot! seriously if he follows us aswell even worse fair enough he may think this but publicly out us

    Im with VG here, he deserves a beating!
  • but these are the worst times footballing wise imo in our history since we joined league football ......
    but best not mention it the precious might be offended
  • oohaah, what he's written is complete crap. I agree we are in the s**t, dont need this bell talking rubbish.

    'He lacks passion and intelligence. And they are just his strong points.''

    wtf does Kelvin MacKenzie know about football.
  • [cite]Posted By: ValleyGary[/cite]oohaah, what he's written is complete crap. I agree we are in the s**t, dont need this bell talking rubbish.

    'He lacks passion and intelligence. And they are just his strong points.''

    wtf does Kelvin MacKenzie know about football.

    lol VG dont raise to the bait, just ignore him

    Ooaah in fairness none of us are saying we're offended just that he is a knob etc
  • [cite]Posted By: johnnybev1987[/cite]couldn't find it but now i have, what a complete tosspot! seriously if he follows us aswell even worse fair enough he may think this but publicly out us

    Im with VG here, he deserves a beating!

    I still can't find it. Do you have the link handy?
  • i haven't read what he says or care to....
    but i know we are in trouble and this is the worse period of footballing times in my 34 years of watching charlton and it is probably the worse period since we entered the football league and the fact it is 3 seasons since we fell out of the top flight adds to the woes and abysmalness around us
    maybe we should have let curbs run his last year of contract down, we'll be doing that with parky
    who knows but any manager or board would have found it a hard task to take us from where curbs left us to this present perdicament , unbelievable , no amount of dressing up can disguise the fact it is a disgrace where we now find ourselves
  • [cite]Posted By: WhenIwasLittleBoy[/cite]How far had it taken you AFKA

    Absolutely nowhere, that's the problem !
  • [cite]Posted By: oohaahmortimer[/cite]i haven't read what he says or care to....
    but i know we are in trouble and this is the worse period of footballing times in my 34 years of watching charlton and it is probably the worse period since we entered the football league and the fact it is 3 seasons since we fell out of the top flight adds to the woes and abysmalness around us
    maybe we should have let curbs run his last year of contract down, we'll be doing that with parky
    who knows but any manager or board would have found it a hard task to take us from where curbs left us to this present perdicament , unbelievable , no amount of dressing up can disguise the fact it is a disgrace where we now find ourselves

    zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz


    [cite]Posted By: IA[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: johnnybev1987[/cite]couldn't find it but now i have, what a complete tosspot! seriously if he follows us aswell even worse fair enough he may think this but publicly out us

    Im with VG here, he deserves a beating!

    I still can't find it. Do you have the link handy?

    Sorry mate no link as read paper, google?
  • No, couldn't find it on google. No worries. I'll live. :)
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  • Im not a 'Parky lover' and probably never will be. However, he is in charge and while's he's there he will get my backing. I wont always agree with his decisions and sometimes i think he makes key error's.

    Saying the man lacks passion or intelligence in a national newspaper is just not on, whoever says it.
  • If that is what he is stating he has shown himself up. Hardly the worst time, as stated in previous posts, i can remeber the days with Andy Nelson, getting beat at home heavily in front of 5k-6k crowds, the wall was the toilet, the club was minites from going out of business, years of playing away from home, if he had any brain what so ever, he should look where clubs such as Man City and Fulham were ten years ago, City were in a play off final with Gillingham, and are now attracting some big names within the football world, Fulham playing third division football againest the likes of Torquay, and have recently just played in a European cup final.
    Oxford,and Luton were in the old first division and were also in cup finals. I can remember the season prior to us signing Clive Mendonca when he scored a hatrick againest us, where are Grimsby now.

    IMO the man had a spare colum inch to spare and there was nothing topical in his world happening therefore he chose to discuss about Monday.
  • clubs like city that get that opportunity are few and far between here, even the uniteds, arsenals and liverpools cant keep up with them financially. would you really want charlton to turn into a machine or do things the way we always have, the hard way? I think thats what makes success so much more enjoyable when it comes around and it will again...one day
  • [cite]Posted By: WhenIwasLittleBoy[/cite]IMO the man had a spare colum inch to spare

    the man probably only has 1 spare inch full stop
  • stopped reading when it said "in the Sun".

    Absolutely spineless man.
  • since I started going in 1972 I think we have had, until now, just one season in League 1 and even then we were promoted at the first attempt under Mike Bailey if I recall. So, this is the worst time in Charlton history for at least 40 years and probably considerably longer. Ok, McKenzie is a prat and to slag off Bailey is out of order but we are hardly revelling in glory days at the moment are we.
  • End of season.............. struggling for things to write.
  • [quote][cite]Posted By: LargeAddick[/cite]since I started going in 1972 I think we have had, until now, just one season in League 1 and even then we were promoted at the first attempt under Mike Bailey if I recall. So, this is the worst time in Charlton history for at least 40 years and probably considerably longer. Ok, McKenzie is a prat and to slag off Bailey is out of order but we are hardly revelling in glory days at the moment are we.[/quote] I would hardly say this is the worst time in Charlton's history, i think there is some over reaction, how many people on this forum have acctually seen Mackenzie at the ground, and if so when was the last time
  • Regardless of who is doing the criticising; the reaction to the comments are overblown. We're a mess. Our manager hasn't had any money to spend: but his wage budget outstrips everyone in the division; and most of the teams in the division above that he lead us out of, in last place, last season. The storm of outrage at his criticism seems completely misplaced.
  • Just re-read what i wrote about this berk 12 months ago, i clearly wasn't a happy chap !!.......


    Why Kelvin and his crew will never quite get it……

    A few days away and a welcome break from all things Charlton. Its not until you take a step away from the vortex of misery you realise with a calmer approach just how ridiculously pathetic the scope of our efforts have been this season.

    Rooted at the bottom of the Premiership amid a gulf in class and finance is unpleasant for anyone, but a more than likely scenario these days with the way the structure of our game has progressed.

    For it to happen quite so candidly in the Championship, particularly as there have been no Titanic events causing us to sink so quickly, is simply astonishing. We have not entered administration or had to sell all our best players (sic) on mass, we have not had players on strike, or staff going months unpaid etc. The Zabeel non-deal was a distraction, but nothing to the size of derailing our whole season quite so spectacularly. As I wrote last month, there has been a catastrophic combination of events and individuals that have coincided to leave us where we are. I'll let others pore over the details if it makes them feel happy, but I'm spent, and just want this season to end yesterday.

    Our plight has led Sun Columnist Kelvin McKenzie to show his true colours at long last. A man that gets through more football teams than Vanessa Feltz gets through cream cakes, 'our Kelvin' has threatened to pack his latest toy away and unleash his fickleness onto QPR next season. A man whose career and industry has been built around issuing savage verbal beatings and kicking a man when he is down, I'm sure there is part of him that is loving our current plight and allowing himself freedom to put the written boot in.

    Should we be surprised ? Not really. It's not great reading, but we know deep down that the likes of Kelvin are not true Charlton fans like me or you. They came to The Valley in the rising years, not to see Mendonca and Kinsella, but to see Owen and Beckham. It was, after all, what our club advertised to fill our expanding venue; a seat to watch Premiership football amid a safe environment and competitive pricing. And now we are seeing the downside.

    The hope with the advertising was that it would not just raise revenues and fill seats, it would turn floating football fans into fully-fledged Charlton fans of the future. However, Kelvin and his ilk signed up not for the adventure, but for the promise. They could never understand the respect from the people around them for what they saw as limited players such as Robinson and Brown, they stared in bemusement as fellow fans stood tall and proud to sing VFR whilst relegated against Spurs, and they would never dream of using their non-Charlton Saturday every fortnight to travel north of the M25 to see their adopted team.

    'Kelvin from Sevenoaks' was one of the main callers on Talksport during our Premiership years. He managed to get through every week (mainly because what they didn't tell you was that he was the station boss at the time) and consistently put the boot in about Curbishley; About the dire football, the lack of ambition etc. Even in our best period for fifty years it was not good enough for Kelvin and his crew, but that will fit the remit of those who care to know nothing of our history, or take general pride that we were a well-respected small club with a good reputation, holding our own against the bloated big boys. Kelvin and his crew just wanted more.

    He was one of the ones we were all scratching our heads wondering where they came from when there appeared to be a Charlton 'fans campaign' against Curbishley through the media, that never properly transferred itself to the terraces.

    See, Kelvin and his crew are fans of football, but they will never truly experience the highs and the lows that go with living and breathing everything associated with being a football fan; The nerves in the pit of your stomach ahead of a big game, the buzz and pride in silly things like when a loud chant echoes around a stand, the joy of a last minute away winner tempered by the nerves of a dodgy walk back to the station. When a stranger asks who you are and instead of saying your name you automatically say 'Charlton'.

    Kelvin and his crew will never experience those range of emotions, and for that I actually feel sorry for them. Truly supporting a football club is an unknown journey, where the destination is rarely where you envisaged it being in your dreams. But you still keep filling up with petrol and keep ploughing on, particularly in the dark times. Those that do will eventually appreciate the true meaning when the better times return more than Kelvin and his cronies could ever imagine.

    So goodbye and good luck with your spell as a QPR fan Kelvin. You've caught them at a time of a growingly disenfranchised supporter base, run by people who appear more interested in turnover than supporter wishes or respect for their history. And with a team still poor enough for you to moan about. It all seems a perfect fit.

    No doubt your money will be missed by our club who currently need every penny they can, but you won't be missed by the likes of me. Despite a soul-destroying league table, a hopeless manager, a collection of dire footballers, and a top tier that appears to not know its left hand from its right, I'm still proud to be a Charlton fan, as will all the other true fans you're type look upon with bemusement.
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