Just read this
rubbish on the OS
Sorry Nicky
Author Alison Scrivener -Posted 29/03/2010 at 02:24 PM
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Don't know what table you are looking at, but there is no way we will make automatic promorion now. We are 15 points behind Norwich and 4 behind Millwall who also have a much better goal difference. Neither of them have been losing much either lately. We need to focus on a playoff place before that slips out of our grasp as well 
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"There is no way we will make automatic promotion now". Surely you arnt being serious or is this reverse psychology. We are actually only 3 behind Millwall and also 3 behind Leeds. We have games at home against teams at the top which will shape the finishing table. The only negative point is our goal difference which will be worth a point to either Leeds or Millwall. Forget Norwich they are up, but because Millwall havnt been losing lately doesnt mean a thing, there was a time earlier in the season when we wernt losing but that can change. Theres 24 points to play for and anyone in the play off picture has a chance of 2nd spot. Sorry, but this is such an unnecessarily negative post
Great that the players believe that, if you havnt got belief whats the point. When certain people then post that sort of rubbish in response what message does that send out..im a little surprised they even published it cos its just breeding negativity on the OS fans views playground.
Just checked and seen that at least her comments are causing a backlash already ;-) I guess once she realises she was wrong she will claim she was trying to get the supporters to passionately respond, however this isnt a one off negative posting so thats no excuse
Realistic point of view and a forum only works if you dont all conform to the same idea
True, but to say "there is no way we will make automatic promorion now" and that we won't make the Playoffs is slightly over the top.
Nick Gray one of the best examples
That's just part of it. Loan signings apparently "make my blood boil", not realising we can't just throw young players in when they aren't ready and expect them to keep us in the top 6.
He thinks Darren Ward was the only good loan signing we've made.
Many of them seem to be living in the past and their expectations are still for us to be a mid table Premier League side. So if we're not walking league one with our "stars" it's not good enough.
And the reply to him, we get a proven player for a couple of months, Leeds panic and take a gamble on a young but probably raw Arsenal youngster.
Fact is loan players aren't the problem, bad players, players with the wrong attitude and loanees only looking to get fit are the problem. Good players that could potentially sign for us are fine.
Anyway back to the original post, we're only 3 points off so actually having a much better season than they expected. Get the feeling they're just waiting for us to fail in the play-offs so they can say they were right.
i agree you need to play devils advocate on forums and diversity so threads flourish, after all football is all about opinions but in this case she is factually incorrect by stating millwall are 4 points ahead and to say there is no chance of automatic promotion when theres 8 games left and only 3 points difference is absolute rubbish.
Not too long ago had the worst ever run of results in our history.
Lower than millwall for the first time in 14 years.
Smahed to pieces by millwall away.
Had TWO shots on target in our last TWO away games.
Failed to beat a side at home that hasnt won away all year.
Slowly slipping further and further down the league.
Come on man, is it really that surprising that people are being negative, of course there is a positive spin you could put on most things, but not everyone likes to convince themselves things are all OK.
To be fair that's not a bad idea - Ajax and Barcelona do it and it's not worked out too bad for them over the years!
As for Sanchez Watt, someone mentioned on here the other day that it was typical of the kind of loan signing we made under Pardew (Lee Cook, Scott Sinclair etc). I don't think he was even on the bench for them on Saturday and is 3rd choice behind Snodgrass and Gradel.
these are tough times for charlton and coming so soon after being the so called 'example to all other clubs' in the premier league make the bitter pill all too hard to swallow
we have to go up!!
your right she got her facts wrong but is spot on that we should lose focus on the playoff spot.
My response was mainly to the
i dont think we will get 2nd spot we needed to win the games between jan and feb to get that spot and we never, i am more in agreement with the points Stu makes than any other at the minute and that is based solely on the performance our team has given us, i am hopeful for a turn in form but only so that we go into those 3 potential games with an elemant of belief
wouldnt disagree with any of the above, as its fact..but i just think that at this stage everything is to play for and putting a positive spin on things is the only way to go with 8 games left and a very realistic chance of 2nd spot. we started the season with a great run, we can finish it with a great run. runs dont go on forever, millwall aint no arsenal or man utd, they will stumble eventually..I just dont see the point of posting something so negative right now on the OS, we all know we have been poor for a while this doesnt need to be highlighted, its sends out the wrong message to the easily influenced and this will result in 1.negativity and 2.more booing.
get behind the team until the fat lady sings and deal with the issues in the summer
Ideally we could do that, but even if we did it wouldn't mean Wagstaff is ready to start every game, or Jack Clark could step in for Basey at left back. They might know the job and tactics better, but it wouldn't make them ready for the first team.
It's a board for peoples opinions, that's someones opinion, that's the point of posting it.
I'm not talking about negativity in the ground by the way. Not that it matters, a lot of our fans couldnt give a toss about getting behind the team inside the ground anyway, takes too much effort, singing is for yobs or some other silly reason like that and they're the positive ones!!!!!