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Ramsgate 'wonderkid' on trial...

edited February 2010 in General Charlton
Something tells me Ramsgate don't produce too many wonderkids...

From thisiskent

RAMSGATE wonderkid Gary Lockyer is spending the week with League 1 promotion hopefuls Charlton Athletic.
The 17-year-old striker, who scored twice in a trial match for Crystal Palace last month, could even feature for the Addicks reserves against Chelsea tomorrow (Wednesday).
Rams boss Jim Ward contacted Charlton youth coach Steve Gritt to set up the trial.
Ward said: "I know Steve well and he's always on at me to let him know about players, so I told him I had somebody other clubs had shown an interest in.
"Depending on how he does, there's an outside chance Gary could play for the reserves against Chelsea, which would be massive for the boy. Who knows, if he plays and scores a hat-trick, Chelsea might want him!
"All we can do is give him encouragement and wish him all the best.
"We'd love somebody from our club to go all the way and make it as a professional footballer. Let's see how Gary gets on with Charlton."
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  • Could be our Charlie Austin


    Or Dicko
  • Where and when is the reserve game? Might pop down if at Sparrows Lane.
  • At least he's on trial, Pardew would have chucked a few hundred thousand at Ramsgate before seeing him play!
  • That reminds me, what happened to Dorian Smith?
  • Just a name innit
  • [cite]Posted By: cafcdan18[/cite]That reminds me, what happened to Dorian Smith?
    Is his picture still in the attic?
  • There was a guy on the radio the other day promoting football cv, its for kids or youths who get dropped from teams and are given the chance to find a club, the guy said the top 8 in the prem are signing players from about 8 years of age, if they feel there not developed there dumped at around 13 or 14, some of these kids just need time to grow and get strong but the top clubs want instant results so there 1000's of kids out there who could make it in the football leagues but give up due to rejection, give him a go I say could be the new wrighty, phillips etc..
  • [cite]Posted By: adamtheaddick[/cite]There was a guy on the radio the other day promoting football cv, its for kids or youths who get dropped from teams and are given the chance to find a club, the guy said the top 8 in the prem are signing players from about 8 years of age, if they feel there not developed there dumped at around 13 or 14, some of these kids just need time to grow and get strong but the top clubs want instant results so there 1000's of kids out there who could make it in the football leagues but give up due to rejection, give him a go I say could be the new wrighty, phillips etc..

    By all means give the lad a trial, but it must be hard to get an accurate assessment of a player's ability from a reserve game. Dicko seems to score in most of the reserve friendlies, but he's been poor whenever he's played in the first team.
  • Anyone who scores against Palace is worth a look!
  • [cite]Posted By: The Red Robin[/cite]Anyone who scores against Palace is worth a look!

    scored FOR Palace so is a Palace reject.

    Out him now, waste of money, why is taking a place in the ressies that could go to one of our own players, typical Charlton.
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  • I thought he scored twice FOR Palace in a trial game?
  • Just had a quick gander at the Ramsgate web site and he's scored once for the first team and nine times for the ressies and scored twice for Palace against QPR ressies.
  • edited February 2010
    [cite]Posted By: adamtheaddick[/cite]There was a guy on the radio the other day promoting football cv, its for kids or youths who get dropped from teams and are given the chance to find a club, the guy said the top 8 in the prem are signing players from about 8 years of age, if they feel there not developed there dumped at around 13 or 14, some of these kids just need time to grow and get strong but the top clubs want instant results so there 1000's of kids out there who could make it in the football leagues but give up due to rejection, give him a go I say could be the new wrighty, phillips etc..
    Nicky Bailey was one, released by Fulham. Pretty sure Arsenal released Solly as well at 12-14, and we nearly let Wagstaff go at 15/16. They're out there if the clubs can find them. The majority will just never be good enough though which is why it's not easy to judge and all clubs make mistakes at some point.
  • The majority will never be good enough for Man Utd or Arsenal, which is why every team almost it seems has a player released by them at some stage, whether it be 12-14 like Solly or even as late as 19-21.
  • Anyone know why Palace didn't sign him after he scored twice?

    Were they under their embargo then?
  • My son's played with and against Gary since they were 7. He's certainly a big lad; strong and direct, with a hell of a shot on him. Off the pitch, he's a nice polite lad, but in play he can be, shall we say, a little wild. I wish him all the best but, to be honest, I'll be surprised if he succeeds at this level. Don't get overexcited!
  • [cite]Posted By: Scoham[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: adamtheaddick[/cite]There was a guy on the radio the other day promoting football cv, its for kids or youths who get dropped from teams and are given the chance to find a club, the guy said the top 8 in the prem are signing players from about 8 years of age, if they feel there not developed there dumped at around 13 or 14, some of these kids just need time to grow and get strong but the top clubs want instant results so there 1000's of kids out there who could make it in the football leagues but give up due to rejection, give him a go I say could be the new wrighty, phillips etc..
    Nicky Bailey was one, released by Fulham. Pretty sure Arsenal released Solly as well at 12-14, and we nearly let Wagstaff go at 15/16. They're out there if the clubs can find them. The majority will just never be good enough though which is why it's not easy to judge and all clubs make mistakes at some point.


    And we rejected Chris Smalling
  • [cite]Posted By: Chris_from_Sidcup[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: Scoham[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: adamtheaddick[/cite]There was a guy on the radio the other day promoting football cv, its for kids or youths who get dropped from teams and are given the chance to find a club, the guy said the top 8 in the prem are signing players from about 8 years of age, if they feel there not developed there dumped at around 13 or 14, some of these kids just need time to grow and get strong but the top clubs want instant results so there 1000's of kids out there who could make it in the football leagues but give up due to rejection, give him a go I say could be the new wrighty, phillips etc..
    Nicky Bailey was one, released by Fulham. Pretty sure Arsenal released Solly as well at 12-14, and we nearly let Wagstaff go at 15/16. They're out there if the clubs can find them. The majority will just never be good enough though which is why it's not easy to judge and all clubs make mistakes at some point.


    And we rejected Chris Smalling

    Are you sure? Oops!
  • How many divisions below is Ramsgate from League 1?
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  • I'm sure I heard somewhere the other day that we had Geroge Boyd as well.
  • Yeah I heard we had George Boyd, and Freddy Eastwood, although maybe only for a trial
  • [cite]Posted By: cafcdan18[/cite]How many divisions below is Ramsgate from League 1?

    Think Ramsgate are Ryman league. So 4 or 5.
  • [cite]Posted By: Graham R.[/cite]My son's played with and against Gary since they were 7. He's certainly a big lad; strong and direct, with a hell of a shot on him. Off the pitch, he's a nice polite lad, but in play he can be, shall we say, a little wild. I wish him all the best but, to be honest, I'll be surprised if he succeeds at this level. Don't get overexcited!

    Was this academy football of sunday league? Also, was he miles better than everyone else? If not then doubt he'll make it
  • [cite]Posted By: cafcdan18[/cite]How many divisions below is Ramsgate from League 1?

    Just looked and they in Ryman Div 1 South. So you've got:

    League 2, Conference, Conference south, ryman premier, then Div 1.
    5 leagues below us.

    Ramsgate are 12th in the table, 5 places below Dulwich where we got Dickson from.
  • that means we were 7 divisions above Dulwich when we signed Dickson. Same as Swindon and Poole Town with Austin and I think around the same as Leeds and Weadlestone for Beckford.
  • George Boyd was supposed to have been at the club in youth teams, I don't think Freddy 'PonyBoy' Eastwood was ever at the club, may have had a trial, he was snapped by Wham for their academy.

    So do you reckon this guy will turn out like Smalling? I'd like a bit of wildness in our youth players, too many of our young players have great skills without bite to their game. If he has bite, a few seasons will prove if he can tame his instincts into effective positional play. 17's a great age to learn and adapt.

    I think the real miss was Jimmy Bullard, certainly when he left Wigan if not before. This team was crying out for a focal piece of energy to get others going, and still is. Wages on JFH or JB? No brainer even before May 2007.
  • [cite]Posted By: Fortune Costa Fish[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: Graham R.[/cite]My son's played with and against Gary since they were 7. He's certainly a big lad; strong and direct, with a hell of a shot on him. Off the pitch, he's a nice polite lad, but in play he can be, shall we say, a little wild. I wish him all the best but, to be honest, I'll be surprised if he succeeds at this level. Don't get overexcited!

    Was this academy football of sunday league? Also, was he miles better than everyone else? If not then doubt he'll make it

    Kent Youth League and against academies of Sunderland, Newcastle, Middlesbrough, Scunthorpe and others. Not miles better (though certainly bigger) but, hey, who am I to say? ;o)
  • I'm sure I remember a certain current england captain being with us for a while..
  • [quote][cite]Posted By: Graham R.[/cite]My son's played with and against Gary since they were 7. He's certainly a big lad; strong and direct, with a hell of a shot on him. Off the pitch, he's a nice polite lad, but in play he can be, shall we say, a little wild. I wish him all the best but, to be honest, I'll be surprised if he succeeds at this level. Don't get overexcited![/quote]

    Spot On.

    I'm a Ramsgate Fan and a friend of Gary Lockyer, Ramsgate have always had bright youth players most of the first team are from local Sunday league or the youth set-up some have gone on or are ongoing good non-league careers but sadly not many have made it in professional football Liam Hatch being one notable example.

    He played against our Under 18's for First Touch Academy and impressed so we signed him, previous to that he was apart of Ebbsfleet's Youth Set-Up. He hasn't represented the first team on many occasions due to breeding him though slowly at his tender age although he does look physically capable but playing well for the reserves.

    A scout at a game noticed him and set up a trial for Palace he played in team full of trialists against a QPR side scoring a brace, They haven't contacted him since other football league sides have taken notice but Charlton is his choice mainly because of our youth set-up and he is a good friend of Connor Morris.

    Speaking to him recently he is really looking forward to proving himself and become a Charlton Player all he want's to do is play football, Joe Powell is another young talent only 17 had trial with Southampton last year.
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