I think leeds have won maybe 5 games in the last few minutes at home - 10 extra points - much more likely to happen at a supportive elland road than a moaning valley
I suspect there is a direct correlation between the moaners and those who have actually played football. Confidence is such a major factor. Being scared to make a mistake is a sure way to lose
How else would you offer your opinion on someone's performance if you could never meet them and, let's be realistic, I don't think they will respond to any letters !
[cite]Posted By: cblock[/cite]Question for the moaners , who do you want as the new manager if Parky is
so shit.
I dont know enough about football and dont have the time or resources to scout a manager that could do well with the budget and squad but they are out there as many clubs have proved.
That's the job of the club. Our job is to pay the money and support the team of which i do both extensively.
[cite]Posted By: CafcAndy[/cite]I mean..Leeds lost 3-0 away to swindon and you could still hear there fans singing "MOT" up to the final whistle...And thats a team that has been stuck down in this league for 3 years..
Exactly, and I bet Norwich fans would make a shed load of noise too, in a supportive way
[cite]Posted By: CafcAndy[/cite]I mean..Leeds lost 3-0 away to swindon and you could still hear there fans singing "MOT" up to the final whistle...And thats a team that has been stuck down in this league for 3 years..
Exactly, and I bet Norwich fans would make a shed load of noise too, in a supportive way
Rodders i would. Parky tried signing Puncheon but could'nt so we have Reid. Any new manager would have to work with no money, or try and sell squad players to a static market. I hoped our strength would be a loud Valley crowd, not the crap like yesterday. Not a dig at you, come and drink in the con club and discuss
[cite]Posted By: CHG[/cite]Are we 3rd in the league? Lost one home game in 10 months? I'll think I'll stick with Parky thanks.
Would you say the same if we dont go up?
At the end of the season a decision can be made about his future -but that's then, this is now.
I don't want to see us lose out and players leave moaning that the fans didn't get behind them, undermined morale and did their best to make their jobs harder. I don't want to see say Nicky Bailey leave and tell fans of another club that he letf Charlton after being called a "cheat".
Right now we all - players, coaching staff, directors and fans should have one purpose in mind - to get promoted, yes you can be pissed off with the way they are playing, but positive re-inforcement and encouragement always has a better effect than negativity.
Collectively we used to be better than this - ex-players would often talk appreciatively about how they were regarded by the fans. In a few years time that will change.
I don't want to see a few gobshite fans spoil our reputation and make the jobs of players/management harder.
By all means yell out, encourage and motivate. If you want to boo stay at home and watch plastic prem teams on Sky and moralise about whichever overpaid footballer the tabloids are dragging through the mud that week.
so is it now okay to say our support is crap ... i mean time was you'd get told off for that ... we have got nigh on the worse support in the country imo
[cite]Posted By: CafcAndy[/cite]I mean..Leeds lost 3-0 away to swindon and you could still hear there fans singing "MOT" up to the final whistle...And thats a team that has been stuck down in this league for 3 years..
Exactly, and I bet Norwich fans would make a shed load of noise too, in a supportive way
they really stuck with bryan gunn and his side.
Cause getting twatted 7-1 at home is the same as 1-1. Amazing logic
[cite]Posted By: cblock[/cite]Rodders i would. Parky tried signing Puncheon but could'nt so we have Reid. Any new manager
would have to work with no money, or try and sell squad players to a static market. I hoped our strength
would be a loud Valley crowd, not the crap like yesterday. Not a dig at you, come and drink in the con club and discuss
[cite]Posted By: CHG[/cite]Are we 3rd in the league? Lost one home game in 10 months? I'll think I'll stick with Parky thanks.
Would you say the same if we dont go up?
At the end of the season a decision can be made about his future -but that's then, this is now.
I don't want to see us lose out and players leave moaning that the fans didn't get behind them, undermined morale and did their best to make their jobs harder. I don't want to see say Nicky Bailey leave and tell fans of another club that he letf Charlton after being called a "cheat".
Right now we all - players, coaching staff, directors and fans should have one purpose in mind - to get promoted, yes you can be pissed off with the way they are playing, but positive re-inforcement and encouragement always has a better effect than negativity.
Collectively we used to be better than this - ex-players would often talk appreciatively about how they were regarded by the fans. In a few years time that will change.
I don't want to see a few gobshite fans spoil our reputation and make the jobs of players/management harder.
By all means yell out, encourage and motivate. If you want to boo stay at home and watch plastic prem teams on Sky and moralise about whichever overpaid footballer the tabloids are dragging through the mud that week.
A good post BFR. Alot of peoples anger around me yesterday came from certain players lack of effort not quality. Its not fair on other players, coaching staff, directors and fans that certain players are not trying their hardest to get us out of this league.
[cite]Posted By: CafcAndy[/cite]I mean..Leeds lost 3-0 away to swindon and you could still hear there fans singing "MOT" up to the final whistle...And thats a team that has been stuck down in this league for 3 years..
Exactly, and I bet Norwich fans would make a shed load of noise too, in a supportive way
they really stuck with bryan gunn and his side.
Cause getting twatted 7-1 at home is the same as 1-1. Amazing logic
No he wasn't, but the comparison is with now, and I would suspect that the crowd at Carrow Road is a million times more supportive then it is at the Valley.
Those who like booing...please post the name and address of where you work and send an e-mail/whisper around next time you are having a bad day. The rest of us will turn up, tut and moan and start booing everything you do.
As you think that booing etc is motivational and has a positive effect you won't mind.
[cite]Posted By: BlackForestReds[/cite]Those who like booing...please post the name and address of where you work and send an e-mail/whisper around next time you are having a bad day. The rest of us will turn up, tut and moan and start booing everything you do.
As you think that booing etc is motivational and has a positive effect you won't mind.
If being booed or heaven forbid "tutted" at means that much to the players then:
1). Football is a spectator sport so perhaps being afraid of spectators is an issue they might have considered previously ?
2). They get paid either way so I really question whether it matters to them ?
3). How about going public with their frustrations over their treatment by the fans (assuming that is what people who pay to attend are still called) ?
4). What about man ing up and just getting on with it ?
5). Wear black boots and stop thinking your Brazilian ?
[cite]Posted By: PL54[/cite]If being booed or heaven forbid "tutted" at means that much to the players then:
1). Football is a spectator sport so perhaps being afraid of spectators is an issue they might have considered previously ?
2). They get paid either way so I really question whether it matters to them ?
3). How about going public with their frustrations over their treatment by the fans (assuming that is what people who pay to attend are still called) ?
4). What about man ing up and just getting on with it ?
5). Wear black boots and stop thinking your Brazilian ?
As you clearly don't enjoy yourself don't bother going, the other fans and the players won't miss you one bit.
No doubt some teenager on the minimum wage at Ikea or Tesco's will suffer your ire instead.
I don't boo, but I'm not shy to offer some advice to the players if I feel like it. (as if they hear me)
I think the significance of the whole booing thing is overstated anyway. Besides I didn't hear a great deal yesterday, certainly no more than I would have expected given the performance & result.
On this, I'd be surprised if our supporters are much different from others around the country.
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Read again each of these 3 points.
so shit.
I dont know enough about football and dont have the time or resources to scout a manager that could do well with the budget and squad but they are out there as many clubs have proved.
That's the job of the club. Our job is to pay the money and support the team of which i do both extensively.
Would you say the same if we dont go up?
I will let you know how I feel on that matter if it ever arises, I can only comment on how things are now.
Exactly, and I bet Norwich fans would make a shed load of noise too, in a supportive way
they really stuck with bryan gunn and his side.
would have to work with no money, or try and sell squad players to a static market. I hoped our strength
would be a loud Valley crowd, not the crap like yesterday. Not a dig at you, come and drink in the con club and discuss
At the end of the season a decision can be made about his future -but that's then, this is now.
I don't want to see us lose out and players leave moaning that the fans didn't get behind them, undermined morale and did their best to make their jobs harder. I don't want to see say Nicky Bailey leave and tell fans of another club that he letf Charlton after being called a "cheat".
Right now we all - players, coaching staff, directors and fans should have one purpose in mind - to get promoted, yes you can be pissed off with the way they are playing, but positive re-inforcement and encouragement always has a better effect than negativity.
Collectively we used to be better than this - ex-players would often talk appreciatively about how they were regarded by the fans. In a few years time that will change.
I don't want to see a few gobshite fans spoil our reputation and make the jobs of players/management harder.
By all means yell out, encourage and motivate. If you want to boo stay at home and watch plastic prem teams on Sky and moralise about whichever overpaid footballer the tabloids are dragging through the mud that week.
Cause getting twatted 7-1 at home is the same as 1-1. Amazing logic
Fair dos. Will do next home game.
A good post BFR. Alot of peoples anger around me yesterday came from certain players lack of effort not quality. Its not fair on other players, coaching staff, directors and fans that certain players are not trying their hardest to get us out of this league.
So he was in charge for one game was he?????
As you think that booing etc is motivational and has a positive effect you won't mind.
LOL
1). Football is a spectator sport so perhaps being afraid of spectators is an issue they might have considered previously ?
2). They get paid either way so I really question whether it matters to them ?
3). How about going public with their frustrations over their treatment by the fans (assuming that is what people who pay to attend are still called) ?
4). What about man ing up and just getting on with it ?
5). Wear black boots and stop thinking your Brazilian ?
As you clearly don't enjoy yourself don't bother going, the other fans and the players won't miss you one bit.
No doubt some teenager on the minimum wage at Ikea or Tesco's will suffer your ire instead.
I think the significance of the whole booing thing is overstated anyway. Besides I didn't hear a great deal yesterday, certainly no more than I would have expected given the performance & result.
On this, I'd be surprised if our supporters are much different from others around the country.
I never ever thought Charlton and our fans were like others. Thought we actually were a bit more intelligent than the average football fans!
We are turning into Spurs. FACT.