[cite]Posted By: The Red Robin[/cite]Terry has to stay as captain. He is by far the best man for the job. Simple as.John Terry
Is that your blog, TRR?
I don't think you can say that no one has given an effective reason for dismissing him as captain.
It's not just for Wayne Bridge. In fact, it's not much about him at all - I agree that he'll still be in the dressing room with him regardless. It's more whether a man that treats his teammates in this way can be considered the best leader of them in the future. He's a captain on and off the pitch. He has just broken perhaps the most important off the pitch rule. No doubt he has lost the respect of other teammates, whom he captains. Therefore, it is fair to question whether his position is tenable.
If the captain of my team did this to one of my other teammates, I wouldn't respect him anymore, on or off the pitch.
[cite]Posted By: Si[/cite]It's not just for Wayne Bridge. In fact, it's not much about him at all - I agree that he'll still be in the dressing room with him regardless. It's more whether a man that treats his teammates in this way can be considered the best leader of them in the future. He's a captain on and off the pitch. He has just broken perhaps the most important off the pitch rule. No doubt he has lost the respect of other teammates, whom he captains. Therefore, it is fair to question whether his position is tenable.
This is the crux of the matter for me. It's about what he has done to his teammates. The only part you've got wrong there Si is that I'm sure some of those buffoons he "captains" respect Terry more for what he's done, which is sad.
[cite]Posted By: Si[/cite]It's not just for Wayne Bridge. In fact, it's not much about him at all - I agree that he'll still be in the dressing room with him regardless. It's more whether a man that treats his teammates in this way can be considered the best leader of them in the future. He's a captain on and off the pitch. He has just broken perhaps the most important off the pitch rule. No doubt he has lost the respect of other teammates, whom he captains. Therefore, it is fair to question whether his position is tenable.
This is the crux of the matter for me. It's about what he has done to his teammates. The only part you've got wrong there Si is that I'm sure some of those buffoons he "captains" respect Terry more for what he's done, which is sad.
i think mark bright has just been told off by the beeb or metro (the 2 people i know he works for) for posting John Terry songs on twitter. he apologies for the error of judgement. whoops.
in a way i think thats right as its an opinion, but we can't actually state that the reporting of the events in the media has been entirely fair and unbiased from start to (when it eventually will) finish can we?
[cite]Posted By: Rothko[/cite]Team Terry, Team Bridge, how about the team I'm in 'Team I want England to win the World Cup, so pick the best team and Captain'
Prince Charles, heir to the throne, future head of the Church of England, married with two young kids, has an affair with a married woman, who was I believe the wife of a friend.
John Terry, professional footballer, married with two kids, has an affair with a single woman (ex girfriend of an ex team mate.)
One is a low life scumbag, c*nt and twat! Which one and why?
Most of the players won't care that he's cheated as they've probably all cheated themselves at some point. Lampard, Cole, Beckham and Rooney have all had high profile stories about them so they can't exactly judge Terry.
One is a low life scumbag, c*nt and twat! Which one and why?
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I believe that Wayne Bridge and his GF were no longer an item.
The law that JT has broken is thy shall not shag your mate's ex-gf until a suitable period of time has passed and everyone is cool with it. Unfortunately for him he's been well and truly hung out to dry by the tabloid media who love these stories which allow them to adopt a holier than thou morality that many tabloid hacks don't exhibit in their own lives. He also broke another law - he got caught.
John Terry is no moral role model, but who in the England team is? Rio Ferdinand who forgot a dope-test appointment, David Beckham and his avaricious dash for wealth, Steve Gerrard who beat up a bouncer in a night-club, Wayne Rooney the granny shagger?
It's going to be difficult for him to captain Wayne Bridge in an England match and how Capello solves this while not undermining his squad is going to be a tricky one.
[cite]Posted By: Red_in_SE8[/cite]Prince Charles, heir to the throne, future head of the Church of England, married with two young kids, has an affair with a married woman, who was I believe the wife of a friend.
John Terry, professional footballer, married with two kids, has an affair with a single woman (ex girfriend of an ex team mate.)
One is a low life scumbag, c*nt and twat! Which one and why?
they both were badly of. If you think no one thought badly of Prince charles then you're rewriting history.
[cite]Posted By: Red_in_SE8[/cite]Prince Charles, heir to the throne, future head of the Church of England, married with two young kids, has an affair with a married woman, who was I believe the wife of a friend.
John Terry, professional footballer, married with two kids, has an affair with a single woman (ex girfriend of an ex team mate.)
One is a low life scumbag, c*nt and twat! Which one and why?
they both were badly of. If you think no one thought badly of Prince charles then you're rewriting history.
(tho i woudlnt use the words you choose tho.)
I was only quoting some of the words that have been used to describe John Terry over the last few days. I think those words are inappropriate in both cases.
[quote][cite]Posted By: ValleyGary[/cite][quote][cite]Posted By: Chris_from_Sidcup[/cite]Latest rumour is that Terry isn't the only Chelsea player that Bridge's ex has shagged.[/quote]
The Sun reckons its Gudjohnsen, Terry, Mutu & another myster man.
Is it weird i really want it to be Makelele.....Le Biiiiiiiiiiiiig tackle.[/quote]
Personally i would prefer it to be Ashley Cole!!
Whilst the players MAY initially be peeved they have one single minded objective and that is to win the world cup, they will accept terry and what he does because he is a player that can lead them to that goal. I don't have too much concern about terry's philandering, especially if bridge and serial slapper were not together at the time. However, I do not think he should ever have got the captaincy after the hotel incident with american tourists straight after 911.
[cite]Posted By: The Red Robin[/cite]Terry has to stay as captain. He is by far the best man for the job. Simple as.John Terry
Is that your blog, TRR?
I don't think you can say that no one has given an effective reason for dismissing him as captain.
It's not just for Wayne Bridge. In fact, it's not much about him at all - I agree that he'll still be in the dressing room with him regardless. It's more whether a man that treats his teammates in this way can be considered the best leader of them in the future. He's a captain on and off the pitch. He has just broken perhaps the most important off the pitch rule. No doubt he has lost the respect of other teammates, whom he captains. Therefore, it is fair to question whether his position is tenable.
If the captain of my team did this to one of my other teammates, I wouldn't respect him anymore, on or off the pitch.
Yeah, it's my blog, I would agree that your point is probably the main argument against mine. However, I think we need to separate the two. First of all I would say we shouldn't make assumptions about what the players think - many of them may have known about this 6 months ago and would have had time by now to get over it. Perhaps the best way to deal with this is for Capello and Baldini to gauge the opinion of senior players such as Cole, Lampard, James, Rooney and Gerrard and then make a decision.
Secondly I would say the players need to remember that Terry is a proven and successful Captain who knows what he is doing and howto lead teams to success and trust him to lead them on the pitch. I don't think there is another English player with as good as track record as Terry as a Captain. Personally Gerrard wouldn't inspire me having just lead Liverpool to 7th place for example. Whereas Terry may have even have lead Chelsea to the treble by then, or at least a trophy, unlike Gerrard.
Another alternative could be to replace Terry as Captain with Lampard who could then act as a mediator between Terry and the rest of the squad should they have any problems with Terry.
Just to make things clear, I personally am not Terry's biggest fan as a bloke, but as a Captain he's the best we have by a long way.
[cite]Posted By: Greenster[/cite]Bridge & his bird were long since split up before Terry got involved so I can't see a problem with his "teammate" !
is that definitely true... bridge moved to man city but she refused to leave her nice house. and the "John was there for me wayne when you weren't" line strikes doubt.
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I don't think you can say that no one has given an effective reason for dismissing him as captain.
It's not just for Wayne Bridge. In fact, it's not much about him at all - I agree that he'll still be in the dressing room with him regardless. It's more whether a man that treats his teammates in this way can be considered the best leader of them in the future. He's a captain on and off the pitch. He has just broken perhaps the most important off the pitch rule. No doubt he has lost the respect of other teammates, whom he captains. Therefore, it is fair to question whether his position is tenable.
If the captain of my team did this to one of my other teammates, I wouldn't respect him anymore, on or off the pitch.
This is the crux of the matter for me. It's about what he has done to his teammates. The only part you've got wrong there Si is that I'm sure some of those buffoons he "captains" respect Terry more for what he's done, which is sad.
in a way i think thats right as its an opinion, but we can't actually state that the reporting of the events in the media has been entirely fair and unbiased from start to (when it eventually will) finish can we?
Team Media Ban?
John Terry, professional footballer, married with two kids, has an affair with a single woman (ex girfriend of an ex team mate.)
One is a low life scumbag, c*nt and twat! Which one and why?
Cant stand Terry but nothing will happen to him, he will go on and lead us to Quarter Final glory as usual...
Would he mind having a quick look under the bed for it!
The Sun reckons its Gudjohnsen, Terry, Mutu & another myster man.
Is it weird i really want it to be Makelele.....Le Biiiiiiiiiiiiig tackle.
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I believe that Wayne Bridge and his GF were no longer an item.
The law that JT has broken is thy shall not shag your mate's ex-gf until a suitable period of time has passed and everyone is cool with it. Unfortunately for him he's been well and truly hung out to dry by the tabloid media who love these stories which allow them to adopt a holier than thou morality that many tabloid hacks don't exhibit in their own lives. He also broke another law - he got caught.
John Terry is no moral role model, but who in the England team is? Rio Ferdinand who forgot a dope-test appointment, David Beckham and his avaricious dash for wealth, Steve Gerrard who beat up a bouncer in a night-club, Wayne Rooney the granny shagger?
It's going to be difficult for him to captain Wayne Bridge in an England match and how Capello solves this while not undermining his squad is going to be a tricky one.
they both were badly of. If you think no one thought badly of Prince charles then you're rewriting history.
(tho i woudlnt use the words you choose tho.)
I was only quoting some of the words that have been used to describe John Terry over the last few days. I think those words are inappropriate in both cases.
The Sun reckons its Gudjohnsen, Terry, Mutu & another myster man.
Is it weird i really want it to be Makelele.....Le Biiiiiiiiiiiiig tackle.[/quote]
Personally i would prefer it to be Ashley Cole!!
Whilst the players MAY initially be peeved they have one single minded objective and that is to win the world cup, they will accept terry and what he does because he is a player that can lead them to that goal. I don't have too much concern about terry's philandering, especially if bridge and serial slapper were not together at the time. However, I do not think he should ever have got the captaincy after the hotel incident with american tourists straight after 911.
start playing professional football and in all likeliness she'll probably let you have a go!!
Yeah, it's my blog, I would agree that your point is probably the main argument against mine. However, I think we need to separate the two. First of all I would say we shouldn't make assumptions about what the players think - many of them may have known about this 6 months ago and would have had time by now to get over it. Perhaps the best way to deal with this is for Capello and Baldini to gauge the opinion of senior players such as Cole, Lampard, James, Rooney and Gerrard and then make a decision.
Secondly I would say the players need to remember that Terry is a proven and successful Captain who knows what he is doing and howto lead teams to success and trust him to lead them on the pitch. I don't think there is another English player with as good as track record as Terry as a Captain. Personally Gerrard wouldn't inspire me having just lead Liverpool to 7th place for example. Whereas Terry may have even have lead Chelsea to the treble by then, or at least a trophy, unlike Gerrard.
Another alternative could be to replace Terry as Captain with Lampard who could then act as a mediator between Terry and the rest of the squad should they have any problems with Terry.
Just to make things clear, I personally am not Terry's biggest fan as a bloke, but as a Captain he's the best we have by a long way.
Ive hung the boots up due to long term injury. I could blag it, it worked in Tenerife....i play Centre Midfield with Nicky Bailey.
is that definitely true... bridge moved to man city but she refused to leave her nice house. and the "John was there for me wayne when you weren't" line strikes doubt.
never know tho probably.