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Norwich fan in peace. Few questions for you......

We are obviously both weary of each other this season, personally I'd like us both to go up rather than Leeds and there's a lot of football left to be played, so who knows.

Would love to hear opinons on the following questions

1. What is the financial situation like at the moment? I heard a while back you were in a dire finacial state and admin was around the corner, but not heard anything in recent months - has the situation changed and become more stable?

2. Do you envisage having to sell any of your decent players? Shelvey is obviously one, but I think Bailey and Sam could walk into a lot of Champ clubs. Especially Sam I've always thought he was a talent too good for the Champ let alone League 1 - but obviously don't see him week in week out, am I wrong?

3. Who do you fear more us or Colchester?

4. Do you still think you'll go on to grab an automatic promotion spot?

Feel free to ask anything back....

Cheers
Scott
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  • 1. Mind your own! although we do not really know ourselves
    2.You'll have to ask parky as only he knows, its possible one could go and who it is would be a mystery
    3.at present you as your recent form and your above us, but colchester also weary of as they are a good side and when saw them beat us 3-0nil they looked good
    4. 50/50, long way to go still. we're capable but so are you will probably go to last game

    How did you come accross this site? bit random but every opposition fan always seems to comment on here, not a bad thing tho
  • we are ok, directors but £7m in ealier in the season that will see us through, so no need to sell, this season, we may be interested in Holt and Hoolihan if you are as desperate to sell as you appear?
  • We'd be reluctant to let you have our goalscoring sensation Izale McLeod in exchange for Holt.
    But needs must and all that.

    And we've also got a fantastic French U-21 full back to swap for Hooligan.
  • 1. It seems to be more stable ('seems' is the operative word). Can you answer the same question about yourselves please?

    2. Hoping that no-one goes. I don't think Shelvey will go but maybe Bailey. Sam is not as good as you think in my opinion. Good enough for a top ten Championship team but not for The Premiership. Of the two I'd be sadder to lose Wagstaff as he's got the potential to be much better than Sam.
    Again, what about you?

    3. Definitely you, although I certainly don't rule Colchester out of the equation.

    4. I see it as 50/50. Again, what about you?
  • 1. Dowman has answered this.
    2. No not until the summer if we don't go up
    3. Definitely you. I just can't see Colchester keeping up their form all season.
    4. Touch and go. We've got a tough run in, but you still have to go to Huddersfield, Millwall, Colchester and to us.
  • My own, ill informed and totally not in the know answers:

    1. I believe that we are stable - that certainly is the message that the directors are putting out at the moment
    2. I don't expect us to HAVE to sell any of our players this season...next year if we don't go up...who knows... There is a thread on here somewhere devoted to Lloyd Sam - he's our 'marmite player'
    3. I don't fear either of the teams. As long as we keep winning we'll be ok.... The only thing I 'fear' is us throwing at all away and not taking our chance....see results against Brentoford, Millwall and - to a certain extent - Swindon...
    4. If we keep winning, we'll go up automatically!

    Cheers
  • 1. Directors have put £7 million in which will allegedly see us through this season without having to sell if we don't want to.

    2. See 1 BUT football contracts aren't worth the paper they are written on if a player or agent gets "tapped up". We have a track record of losing crucial players in the January window so I'm ruling nothing out until January has passed!

    3. The season is only halfway through so Norwich are just one of a number of sides including Leeds, Colchester, Huddersfield, MK Dons, Millwall and even Southampton who could prove to be a threat. That said I thought you would be there or thereabouts when the season started so would probably put you above Colchester although they do have Kevin Lisbie.

    4. We have a chance if we can remain relatively injury and suspension free and can keep our key players during this window. I'm long in the tooth though and Charlton have disappointed me often over the years so not holding my breath!

    What is your financial position now? Has Delia sold a few more pies to enable you to keep Hoolahan and Holt?
  • edited January 2010
    [cite]Posted By: johnnybev1987[/cite]1. Mind your own! although we do not really know ourselves
    2.You'll have to ask parky as only he knows, its possible one could go and who it is would be a mystery
    3.at present you as your recent form and your above us, but colchester also weary of as they are a good side and when saw them beat us 3-0nil they looked good
    4. 50/50, long way to go still. we're capable but so are you will probably go to last game

    How did you come accross this site? bit random but every opposition fan always seems to comment on here, not a bad thing tho
    Was quite random but after reading a few of the posts, it seemed to have a few amusing posters on here. It's the 1st that comes up on google too.

    I noticed Shelvey was benched the other day, coming back from injury, tactical or something more to it?
  • 1. Admin is not an issue, the directors have pumped in £7m of their money and in my opinion have collectively invested too much to allow admin to wipe out a lot of their investment. That said don't go thinking that we have money to spend in this window or that financially we are sound. If we do sign any players it may be that one or more will have to be sold first. The whole of football is operating on a slippery slope.

    2. At a club like Charlton all the players are up for sale - but currently only if the offer is too good to be turned down, for a non-essential squad player or perhaps a player who's contract expires in the summer and where the club decides to cash in now. Will Chelsea sign Shelvey? Again only if the money is stupid but he signed an extended contract not long ago. Sam is a good player but like a lot of wingers blows hot and cold and what he does is based on the service he receives and maybe the odd bit of magic here'n'there. He needs to be more consistent to reach his potential, but with the right service he could be a match winner.

    3. I don't fear either team, we've lost just two games this season. We lost away to Colchester, but comprehensively out played you guys when we last met at the Valley.

    4. Yes, I see no reason why automatic promotion shouldn't be achieved. We've played Leeds and Norwich away, drew with both and but for a dodgy last minute goal at Carrow Road would have had two more points to our total. Other than that a few other late goals have flattered opponents and cost us points. So I'm confident and the race will be close - the question is which team wants it the most?
  • I noticed Shelvey was benched the other day, coming back from injury, tactical or something more to it?
    .............

    No injury - he works hard on the pitch but his best position is attacking centre-midfield, and currently we have Bailey and Racon as first choice. He's been tried as a deep playing forward and has done ok there and on the left where he looked out of position. Personally I think he was over-played earlier on this season and got blunted a bit, but he's not 18 till February, so still learning his craft.
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  • Hi Scott.

    Can't speak for everyone but here's my version:

    1.It's a very complicatede picture (which plenty on here will know far more about than me) but whilst we're still far from secure, one more cash injection already made by the current Board should hopefully see us safely through this season. Meanwhile takeover rumours have subsided for a while, though it's no secret we're looking to sell when the right buyer can be found.

    2.Hopefully not (re. the cash injection above) but of course no-one's realistically priceless. Nice to hear your observations on Sam as he still divides opinion. Early this season he was often our match-winner but is now double-marked by many teams, so not quite as effective. Personally I'm not sure we can expect much more from a third division winger who's prepared to track back.

    3.Definitely you, though I don't expect Colchester just to fade away either. The play-offs are gonna be really tough for who ever misses out on the auto places. We've been going along at a perfectly good pace for half a season but since Lambert got settled you've still managed to more than match that and overtake us.

    4.Honestly don't know. We're perhaps the steady Eddies with just two defeats but don't quite have the goal output you do. We've often been a bit better than the oppo without completely over-running them. January ins & outs could be important for all of us. I guess we need to bank on you slipping up at some point and seeing how you respond.

    Guess my only question relates to any potential straws to clutch at - what might be your weaknesses? On another note, as someone following a club that, like us, spent recent seasons in loftier climes, are you enjoying the third division? For me, the actual matchday experience is great.

    Good luck.
  • April is going to be vital, we have you and Colchester at home, followed by Leeds in the 1st week of May. As far as I am concerned Leeds have nailed one spot already, their squad is strong enough to take the cup games they are playing and beckford leaving, his presence has taken the spotlight off some equally worthy players in the team, it then will come down to yourselves, us and colchester, don't think that Colchester are as good as we fear, we were on top of them until we imploded at their place, I really can't see them winning 2nd spot, but would fear them as a play off contender. That leaves you and oyu hare on a great run. the deciding factor could be squad depth, if it comes to that then currently you'll take it .. but hopefully not.
  • edited January 2010
    [cite]Posted By: Oggy Red[/cite]We'd be reluctant to let you have our goalscoring sensation Izale McLeod in exchange for Holt.
    But needs must and all that.

    And we've also got a fantastic French U-21 full back to swap for Hooligan.

    Strange one Mcleod, there's a good striker in there somewhere.
  • edited January 2010
    [cite]Posted By: wrathofthebarclay[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: Oggy Red[/cite]We'd be reluctant to let you have our goalscoring sensation Izale McLeod in exchange for Holt.
    But needs must and all that.

    And we've also got a fantastic French U-21 full back to swap for Hooligan.

    Strange one Mcleod, there's a good striker in there somewhere.

    Where?
  • McLeod is another example of an athlete who has some footballing ability, play the ball into space and he'll chase it and sometimes he'll do the right thing, stick a defender on him and he's lost. Even on the rare occasions when he does score he gets booked for taking his shirt off in celebration. This season he has for goals and four bookings...all self-inflicted.
  • edited January 2010
    [cite]Posted By: jimmymelrose[/cite]1. It seems to be more stable ('seems' is the operative word).Can you answer the same question about yourselves please?

    2. Hoping that no-one goes. I don't think Shelvey will go but maybe Bailey. Sam is not as good as you think in my opinion. Good enough for a top ten Championship team but not for The Premiership. Of the two I'd be sadder to lose Wagstaff as he's got the potential to be much better than Sam.
    Again, what about you?

    3. Definitely you, although I certainly don't rule Colchester out of the equation.

    4. I see it as 50/50.Again, what about you?

    1. We're stable enough. If we don't get promoted this season, we will be a lot closer to financial trouble but there's no imminent threat of admin or anything like that

    2. There's 3 players we could lose, that have Championship class, Russell, Holt and Hoolahan. Hoolahan is a great player but a luxury one and the team needs to be built around him like we had to do with huckerby. Holt has never proved himself in the Champ. I think both will still be here 1st Feb. Everyone was shocked at the Burnley rumours around Rusty in the summer and a lot wanted him to go but he's been different class since Lambert took over. I think unless stupid money comes a knocking we'll have all our 1st team for the season. Hoolahan will go if we stay in this league

    4. I still think Leeds will hit a rocky patch. I can't see them not getting promoted but it's not a forgone conclusion yet. Colchester are effective but even their fans have moaned the style of football. 7-0 on Saturday will have hopefully rocked their confidence.
  • [cite]Posted By: wrathofthebarclay[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: Oggy Red[/cite]We'd be reluctant to let you have our goalscoring sensation Izale McLeod in exchange for Holt.
    But needs must and all that.

    And we've also got a fantastic French U-21 full back to swap for Hooligan.

    Strange one Mcleod, there's a good striker in there somewhere.


    Is there? I'm convinced we bought Izale's sh*t cousin like when Souness got mugged off playing George Weah's cousin a few years back. The McLeod we bought is useless.
  • [cite]Posted By: BlackForestReds[/cite]I noticed Shelvey was benched the other day, coming back from injury, tactical or something more to it?
    .............

    No injury - he works hard on the pitch but his best position is attacking centre-midfield, and currently we have Bailey and Racon as first choice. He's been tried as a deep playing forward and has done ok there and on the left where he looked out of position. Personally I think he was over-played earlier on this season and got blunted a bit, but he's not 18 till February, so still learning his craft.

    Bailey and racon, you mean semedo i think

    Yeah as he said shelvey is not injured just there is not a spot for him at the mo, whether this will mean he will go only time will tell

    p.s. hope hoolahoop, Holt(jammy goal at yours in last minute) & russell if he is your 3rd best player goes as would be more confident of us finishing above you

    Have you started similar thread on your forum? or you planning to link it up once a few of us have responded to give your lot more assurances?
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  • edited January 2010
    [cite]Posted By: Paddy7[/cite]Hi Scott.

    Can't speak for everyone but here's my version:

    1.It's a very complicatede picture (which plenty on here will know far more about than me) but whilst we're still far from secure, one more cash injection already made by the current Board should hopefully see us safely through this season. Meanwhile takeover rumours have subsided for a while, though it's no secret we're looking to sell when the right buyer can be found.

    2.Hopefully not (re. the cash injection above) but of course no-one's realistically priceless. Nice to hear your observations on Sam as he still divides opinion. Early this season he was often our match-winner but is now double-marked by many teams, so not quite as effective. Personally I'm not sure we can expect much more from a third division winger who's prepared to track back.

    3.Definitely you, though I don't expect Colchester just to fade away either. The play-offs are gonna be really tough for who ever misses out on the auto places. We've been going along at a perfectly good pace for half a season but since Lambert got settled you've still managed to more than match that and overtake us.

    4.Honestly don't know. We're perhaps the steady Eddies with just two defeats but don't quite have the goal output you do. We've often been a bit better than the oppo without completely over-running them. January ins & outs could be important for all of us. I guess we need to bank on you slipping up at some point and seeing how you respond.

    Guess my only question relates to any potential straws to clutch at - what might be your weaknesses? On another note, as someone following a club that, like us, spent recent seasons in loftier climes, are you enjoying the third division? For me, the actual matchday experience is great.

    Good luck.

    Hey Paddy

    Our weaknesses, which were great under Gunn have seemed to vanished into thin air. That's not to say we don't have any.

    Cover for Wes Hoolahan - our whole game revolves around the little magician, if he gets injured or sold, we will have to change our formation with wingers and that could prove disatrious. The same goes for Holt but I believe we will get a backup in the window, a backup for Holt is far easier to get than a backup for Wes.

    Forster was a weakness but he's become good since his blunder against Leeds, really good. And Jon Otsemobor our RB is utterly useless, luckily we've just signed Russell Martin, who's been fantastic on loan. Otsemobor is one of these players, who should be the best right back in the league but is barely the best right back in the Otsemobor household. It's almost like someone has him on remote control and as soon as he hits the halfway line he has to stop.

    Doc, and you may laugh but Doc has been a beast at the back this season and has started to spray balls around the pitch like he's Jan Molby, haven't got a clue how Lambert's managed it but he has. However his CB partner Askou is out for a couple of months and Nelson his cover is not good enough imo, so if we don't buy a CB, we could be vunrable over the next 6-8 weeks.

    It's hard to pick weaknesses when everything is going so well. Thinking back to last season and the game where either you played like Brazil or we made you look like Brazil, I felt there was a bit of a mutual bond at the Valley that day. How we gave Gunn a job after that performance is beyond me but our Delia and the board have a history of ill-informed managerial appts luckily this time a new chairmen and a new CE appointed Lambert

    I genuinely hope it's the 2 of us who go up automatically. It's been a great year of football, I love going to new ground big and small, and the slightly old school feel of them. No awful stadia like Madjeski or the Ricoh, in fact if I never have to set foot in the Ricoh I'll be a happy man.

    This will be fun for a year but after that I think the novelty will wear off. We really need promotion otherwise who knows what might happen, we lose Lambert, Gunn comes back and our local Derby will be Great Yarmouth
  • [cite]Posted By: Oggy Red[/cite]Hi Wrathofthebarclay,

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  • You've hit the nail on the head there, this league will be fun for a year. Next year when the better players leave, crowds drop, and new away grounds become places you've got no intention of ever going to again, it becomes a disaster.
  • 1. There's a lot of debt, but it's mostly to directors, so unless they decided to demand that money back instantly then (which they wouldn't because they'd get very little back of it if the administrators had a fire-sale and, as has been stated, they recently poured an extra £7M into the pot) we were never going to administration, it was all a construct of thick sports journalists who don't understand what administration is.
    2. It kind of depends. Sam's out of contract at the end of year, so I think that if he departs, it'll likely be then. Bailley and Shelvey (and any player in this league, to be fair) will go if the price is right). At the moment Racon looks set to go as he's been missing from the team for a while after a reported disagreement, which would be a great shame.
    3. Norwich, I think the main issue that Norwich face is that Lambert will nail his colours to the highest mast, so if a tasty offer comes up he could make a quick exit.
    4. No
  • [cite]Posted By: wrathofthebarclay[/cite]
    How we gave Gunn a job after that performance is beyond me but our Delia and the board have a history of ill-informed managerial appts
    Switch Gunn for Parky and remove mentions of any celebrity chefs and it's deja vu. That said, it's turned around to a certain extent this season. If we were to go up though, I'd be worrying before the celebrations were done.
  • Great summary, Wrathofthebarclay.

    Change the names and you could have been writing the same summary about Charlton!!

    And agreed, it's turning out to be a great "feels like football used to be" season in the Third Division, but one season is enough!
  • [cite]Posted By: wrathofthebarclay[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: Oggy Red[/cite]Hi Wrathofthebarclay,

    When you want to quote, just make sure you click the BBCode circle in "Format comments as"
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  • one question also, i laughed at your thread subject ' I come in peace'. we are not millwall and nor do we claim to be there is no need to panic!

    Although in putting that you did probably stop a few silly posts or jibes :-)
  • [cite]Posted By: McLovin[/cite]1. There's a lot of debt, but it's mostly to directors, so unless they decided to demand that money back instantly then (which they wouldn't because they'd get very little back of it if the administrators had a fire-sale and, as has been stated, they recently poured an extra £7M into the pot) we were never going to administration, it was all a construct of thick sports journalists who don't understand what administration is.
    2. It kind of depends. Sam's out of contract at the end of year, so I think that if he departs, it'll likely be then. Bailley and Shelvey (and any player in this league, to be fair) will go if the price is right). At the moment Racon looks set to go as he's been missing from the team for a while after a reported disagreement, which would be a great shame.
    3. Norwich, I think the main issue that Norwich face is that Lambert will nail his colours to the highest mast, so if a tasty offer comes up he could make a quick exit.
    4. No

    Re Lambert leaving - Everytime a manager leaves a club in the Champ or even the Prem/SPL I get nervous, he has previous in leaving clubs after a small amount of time. However this is the biggest club he's managed and for all their faults, our board are a genuine bunch who will let him have control. We have a 25k average att and Norwich is a nice area to live. Lambert has come out and said he has to make friends at Norwich and is a club he wants to be at for a decent amount of time and loves being here. He also wasn't a journeyman player and didn't have that many clubs and was at celtic for a long time. I don't think he'll go to a Preston or something like that just because they're already in the Champ but a Newcastle size job or a PL job then yeah you can't blame him for going.
  • I think you have Lambert for at least another season/two - leaving Colchester for Norwich and then Norwich in a season won't look good on a CV - he needs a promotion or two to back up his ambition and prove that he's capable of managing at a higher level before taking the next step.
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