Time to move Bailey into the centre of the park, whilst he was scoring from there at the start of the season, he actually has very little influence on the game out there, we are wasting him & I fear if we do not move him to his favoured central role soon he'll be gone come January.
Kind of wish that Toks hadn't been released in the summer. He'd have been an option out wide and released Bailey into his best position allowing us to - more easily - rest Jonjo - without having to wholesale change the team.
Seems particularly odd given that we "replaced" him with a loanee that seems unlikely to ever feature for us.
[cite]Posted By: Dazzler21[/cite]What was mcleod doing in defence anyway he should be waiting on the outside the box ready for the ball to come out so he can blitz past any last defender and get a shot off!
Sums up McLeod's positional sense - he simply doesn't have any!
Yes, we were beaten by a dubious pen and two long range wonder striles, but second half performance was generally abysmal. We don't seem to have anyone who can create something from nothing like those wonder strikes.
[cite]Posted By: Ketman[/cite]Time to move Bailey into the centre of the park, whilst he was scoring from there at the start of the season, he actually has very little influence on the game out there, we are wasting him & I fear if we do not move him to his favoured central role soon he'll be gone come January.
Bailey has started games in the middle for almost a year. It's his preferred position yes but he's happy to play where he's needed.
[cite]Posted By: McLovin[/cite]Kind of wish that Toks hadn't been released in the summer. He'd have been an option out wide and released Bailey into his best position allowing us to - more easily - rest Jonjo - without having to wholesale change the team.
Seems particularly odd given that we "replaced" him with a loanee that seems unlikely to ever feature for us.
He's only a back up player for Gillingham though, he'd have been an option but I doubt he'd be good enough.
[cite]Posted By: Weegie Addick[/cite]We don't seem to have anyone who can create something from nothing like those wonder strikes.
Is frustrating because Shelvey, Bailey and Racon should all be capable of scoring from long range but just haven't done it. Coming up with something special like that can make the difference in some games.
[cite]Posted By: Weegie Addick[/cite]We don't seem to have anyone who can create something from nothing like those wonder strikes.
Is frustrating because Shelvey, Bailey and Racon should all be capable of scoring from long range but just haven't done it. Coming up with something special like that can make the difference in some games.[/quote]
Possibly because they haven't been gifed freedom of the pitch in the way that Kavanagh was on saturday.
Don't get me wrong that were excellent strikes but from our point of view, very poor goals to conceed. He should never have been given that much time and space, yet we did it not once but twice!
I wasn't at the game but it seems to me we started the season with a mediocre defense, a weak attack and a midfield that is a cut above this division. Nothing's changed significantly except that we are playing some stronger opposition. Playoffs hopefully.
Sco, that's a fair point. I wasn't suggesting he was a world beater, but he plays in a position that we are light in (actually don't have a single recognised player), which might have made him useful.
I can understand why we let Wright go, as we have such a good crop of central midfielders, but that's not the case in the wider positions.
[cite]Posted By: Barn Door Varney[/cite]Don't get me wrong that were excellent strikes but from our point of view, very poor goals to conceed. He should never have been given that much time and space, yet we did it not once but twice!
Have seen them know and they're the kind of shots we were blocking earlier in the season, or not giving players a chance to do it in the first place. Hopefully we learn from that.
[cite]Posted By: McLovin[/cite]Sco, that's a fair point. I wasn't suggesting he was a world beater, but he plays in a position that we are light in (actually don't have a single recognised player), which might have made him useful.
I can understand why we let Wright go, as we have such a good crop of central midfielders, but that's not the case in the wider positions.
I know what you mean though it's not as if he's a proper winger, he's a central midfielder that has played on the left because he's left footed and we had around 10 other CMs last season. He'd have been an option, and we need to sign a recognised left winger, but I really think we'd have given him another year if we thought he'd be any where near good enough to play a decent part. Though maybe it can be argued he's no less talented than Wagstaff.
The game started pretty slowly and for 30 odd minutes not a great deal happened to be honest, the most action from the crowd point was giving continued abuse to Nicky Bailey, a rival between Bailey and Carlisle fans seems to have been built from time at Barnet, pushed into his time at Southend, he was booed every time he touched ball, with many abusive comments but Bailey is a player who just handles it and moves on trying to put in his usual diving, trying to get players sent off, dirty cheating ways aswell to wind people up further.
The chances first 30 minutes were really just scrappy shots or outside box chances which went wide, neither side looking to do much for the opening parts of the game.
Suddenly the game sprang into life about 30 minutes partially due to the referee, a perfect through ball sent our striker Dobie away through on goal one on one but his shot was weak and was pretty much a pass to the Goalie. Then 5 mins later Dobie was sent away again, only for the Charlton defender Christian Daily to foul him when through on goal ’OFF, OFF, OFF!!’ were the shouts of the home crowd, for the referee to just hand out a yellow, it was hard to say if right or not, but what it did do is hype up the atmosphere and the game. From the free-kick we hit the inside of the post only for it to go right across goal and out had it just headed outwards 3 players were running in, but bad luck sent it away for the Charlton guy to clear
From the corner which followed went huge shouts for a Carlisle penalty with a clear foul on one of our players in the box , and anger from afew minutes earlier with the non-red getting worse with now a denied penalty as the referee got huge abuse from the stands and Carlisle players appealed like mad to no response. But then 30 seconds later we got a penalty…….this time no one at all knows why we got it, afew around saying it was cause the ref finally realised what a complete ar*e-up he made a minute ago, this of course now insensed Charlton and their manager , but whatever arguments we had the pen, Harte stepped up and SAVED!!! But lucky for us the rebound went back to harte and 1-0. This then led to Mr Parkinson to turn around a boot a crateload of energy drinks right across the technical area at full force…..GBH on a crate of energy drinks is clearly not allowed in football I guess as he was sent off for the incident.
1-0, with a buzzing atmos, Carlisle needed the vital 2nd cause Charlton were bound to come out 2nd half more fired up, but it was Charlton who got the next goal with their own penalty, a stupid late lunge from Kavanagh that was not needed led to a pen which they smashed in for 1-1 right on half time.
2nd half I expected Charlton to really press us, but we dominated most of the half and really dug deep to find a little more to win it, Pericard all game was keeping and holding the ball, Robson on the left wing now getting into it, Keogh superb at Right back, Charlton were on the whole reduced to just outside box efforts most of the half. Carlisle now got chances but could not get the vital breakthrough, Pericard missed a header from 6 yards out after a great whipped cross in, Harte had a free kick smash Bailey full on in the face to cheers from the home crowd, Robson had a shot saved. Finally Carlisle fgot the lead through a superb smashed shot from Kavanagh from 25 yards when Charlton gave him too much room, sent the home fans into raptures and gave the whole place a huge lift, one of the few times in the last year or so I heard cheers and songs from the home fans to the team. Charlton responded with a couple of chances Pidgey had to save, but were still never pressng about our box, Parkinson brought on 3 subs to try and change things, but soon after Kavanagh wrapped it up with a shot as glorious as his first, again the Charlton midfield shockingly gave Kavanagh acre’s of room and he punished them with a superb 20 yard strike into the top corner for 3-1 and utter delight around the ground.
Bailey still had time to deliberately punch Keogh in the b*llocks to try and get a reaction, and dive in the box trying to get a pen (cheating g*t!!) but well led to more abuse and jeers from the home crowd as he had a horrid afternoon, worse for his club because Charlton’s sheer lack of danger or purpose going forward meant we rode a comfortable last 10 minutes to hold onto a crucial win and a standing ovation off fans who 2 weeks ago were ready to lynch the lot…………how things can change.
A Superb performance, a great afternoon, a buzz about the ground and fans very happy, team coming off extremely confident and positive………all round may help turn our season this game, we won last week but it was one of them scrappy uneventful wins, yesterday was a massive confidence boost to players who have needed it, if we can follow up with Morecambe, Swindon and Wycombe home games we might become that horrid side to play at Brunton Park again……that we’ll have to see.
As for Charlton well………..was unimpressed, as an attack force they lacked a lot of strength, power, direction and purpose, ok at the back, it took us 2 great efforts to break them but I can see a lack of goals over season being their downfall.
Just watched the highlights of the Carlisle game and think we were completely mugged for their penalty (too bad Boris wasn't their to help us). Can't believe Kavanagh wasn't closed down for either of his goals, especially when they must know what a good player he is. Still, we will lose games this season, it's just how we react after them that matters. I still think we're a better side than Leeds and it's just a matter of time before they get found out again.
golfaddick CommentTime3 days ago quote# 57
It may be only 2 defeats in 15 but its also only 2 wins in 11..........you can play with statistics all day but the simple fact is that we just don't have the cutting edge up front. END OF
Absolute rubbish mate. If you're going to quote stats then at least get them right!
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Seems particularly odd given that we "replaced" him with a loanee that seems unlikely to ever feature for us.
Sums up McLeod's positional sense - he simply doesn't have any!
Yes, we were beaten by a dubious pen and two long range wonder striles, but second half performance was generally abysmal. We don't seem to have anyone who can create something from nothing like those wonder strikes.
Bailey has started games in the middle for almost a year. It's his preferred position yes but he's happy to play where he's needed.
He's only a back up player for Gillingham though, he'd have been an option but I doubt he'd be good enough.
Is frustrating because Shelvey, Bailey and Racon should all be capable of scoring from long range but just haven't done it. Coming up with something special like that can make the difference in some games.
Is frustrating because Shelvey, Bailey and Racon should all be capable of scoring from long range but just haven't done it. Coming up with something special like that can make the difference in some games.[/quote]
Possibly because they haven't been gifed freedom of the pitch in the way that Kavanagh was on saturday.
Don't get me wrong that were excellent strikes but from our point of view, very poor goals to conceed. He should never have been given that much time and space, yet we did it not once but twice!
I can understand why we let Wright go, as we have such a good crop of central midfielders, but that's not the case in the wider positions.
Have seen them know and they're the kind of shots we were blocking earlier in the season, or not giving players a chance to do it in the first place. Hopefully we learn from that.
I know what you mean though it's not as if he's a proper winger, he's a central midfielder that has played on the left because he's left footed and we had around 10 other CMs last season. He'd have been an option, and we need to sign a recognised left winger, but I really think we'd have given him another year if we thought he'd be any where near good enough to play a decent part. Though maybe it can be argued he's no less talented than Wagstaff.
The game started pretty slowly and for 30 odd minutes not a great deal happened to be honest, the most action from the crowd point was giving continued abuse to Nicky Bailey, a rival between Bailey and Carlisle fans seems to have been built from time at Barnet, pushed into his time at Southend, he was booed every time he touched ball, with many abusive comments but Bailey is a player who just handles it and moves on trying to put in his usual diving, trying to get players sent off, dirty cheating ways aswell to wind people up further.
The chances first 30 minutes were really just scrappy shots or outside box chances which went wide, neither side looking to do much for the opening parts of the game.
Suddenly the game sprang into life about 30 minutes partially due to the referee, a perfect through ball sent our striker Dobie away through on goal one on one but his shot was weak and was pretty much a pass to the Goalie. Then 5 mins later Dobie was sent away again, only for the Charlton defender Christian Daily to foul him when through on goal ’OFF, OFF, OFF!!’ were the shouts of the home crowd, for the referee to just hand out a yellow, it was hard to say if right or not, but what it did do is hype up the atmosphere and the game. From the free-kick we hit the inside of the post only for it to go right across goal and out had it just headed outwards 3 players were running in, but bad luck sent it away for the Charlton guy to clear
From the corner which followed went huge shouts for a Carlisle penalty with a clear foul on one of our players in the box , and anger from afew minutes earlier with the non-red getting worse with now a denied penalty as the referee got huge abuse from the stands and Carlisle players appealed like mad to no response. But then 30 seconds later we got a penalty…….this time no one at all knows why we got it, afew around saying it was cause the ref finally realised what a complete ar*e-up he made a minute ago, this of course now insensed Charlton and their manager , but whatever arguments we had the pen, Harte stepped up and SAVED!!! But lucky for us the rebound went back to harte and 1-0. This then led to Mr Parkinson to turn around a boot a crateload of energy drinks right across the technical area at full force…..GBH on a crate of energy drinks is clearly not allowed in football I guess as he was sent off for the incident.
1-0, with a buzzing atmos, Carlisle needed the vital 2nd cause Charlton were bound to come out 2nd half more fired up, but it was Charlton who got the next goal with their own penalty, a stupid late lunge from Kavanagh that was not needed led to a pen which they smashed in for 1-1 right on half time.
2nd half I expected Charlton to really press us, but we dominated most of the half and really dug deep to find a little more to win it, Pericard all game was keeping and holding the ball, Robson on the left wing now getting into it, Keogh superb at Right back, Charlton were on the whole reduced to just outside box efforts most of the half. Carlisle now got chances but could not get the vital breakthrough, Pericard missed a header from 6 yards out after a great whipped cross in, Harte had a free kick smash Bailey full on in the face to cheers from the home crowd, Robson had a shot saved. Finally Carlisle fgot the lead through a superb smashed shot from Kavanagh from 25 yards when Charlton gave him too much room, sent the home fans into raptures and gave the whole place a huge lift, one of the few times in the last year or so I heard cheers and songs from the home fans to the team. Charlton responded with a couple of chances Pidgey had to save, but were still never pressng about our box, Parkinson brought on 3 subs to try and change things, but soon after Kavanagh wrapped it up with a shot as glorious as his first, again the Charlton midfield shockingly gave Kavanagh acre’s of room and he punished them with a superb 20 yard strike into the top corner for 3-1 and utter delight around the ground.
Bailey still had time to deliberately punch Keogh in the b*llocks to try and get a reaction, and dive in the box trying to get a pen (cheating g*t!!) but well led to more abuse and jeers from the home crowd as he had a horrid afternoon, worse for his club because Charlton’s sheer lack of danger or purpose going forward meant we rode a comfortable last 10 minutes to hold onto a crucial win and a standing ovation off fans who 2 weeks ago were ready to lynch the lot…………how things can change.
A Superb performance, a great afternoon, a buzz about the ground and fans very happy, team coming off extremely confident and positive………all round may help turn our season this game, we won last week but it was one of them scrappy uneventful wins, yesterday was a massive confidence boost to players who have needed it, if we can follow up with Morecambe, Swindon and Wycombe home games we might become that horrid side to play at Brunton Park again……that we’ll have to see.
As for Charlton well………..was unimpressed, as an attack force they lacked a lot of strength, power, direction and purpose, ok at the back, it took us 2 great efforts to break them but I can see a lack of goals over season being their downfall.
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It may be only 2 defeats in 15 but its also only 2 wins in 11..........you can play with statistics all day but the simple fact is that we just don't have the cutting edge up front. END OF
Absolute rubbish mate. If you're going to quote stats then at least get them right!
It's ok - we were the same then as now...