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Charlton v Udder's Field - Poll, predictions, teams and pre-match views

WSSWSS
edited October 2009 in General Charlton
Second bite of the cherry time at The Valley this weekend.

With Leeds playing the ever-improving Norwich on Monday night we have the chance to be top dogs once again (for a couple of days at least). It is ridiculous to start talking about must-win games at this stage of the season, but with only 6 points separating ourselves in 2nd and Swindon in 7th it would be nice to have the comfort of a cushion once again.

With Colchester away at lowly Wycombe and MK Dons at home to Kent’s 2nd biggest club Gillingham, it is possible we could be sitting down in 4th if we don’t pick up the points against Udder’s Field. A heavy defeat and a decent win for Dickson Rovers could even see us slip into the hallowed “5th Place”. The duo of Theo Robinson and Jordan Rhodes upfront (13 goals in 12 league games between them) will provide a stern test for the Charlton back four who may well bring Sam Sodje back into the fold at the expense of Scrumcap.

It’s up front where Charlton’s problems seem to lie though, no goals in three league games and very few clear cut chances. Does Burton retain his place? Can the lively looking McKenzie got a look in up-front? Will Izzy get the chance to get in the right positions again and actually take his chances?

The other conundrum Parky has is with Semedo. The pivot is likely to be available but how do you fit him in the team? Spring has played well in his absence but who else can you drop?

Tough call on line-up and tactics this week and if anything less than 3 points is picked up, I fear the boo boys could be back in our midst, however ridiculous that may sound.

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  • Who is Scumcrap?
  • WSSWSS
    edited October 2009
    Millwall, but scrumcap is Llera. ;-)
  • Semedo and Sodje back in - Llera and Spring to miss out. Simple.
  • [cite]Posted By: Low_Ears[/cite]Semedo and Sodje back in - Llera and Spring to miss out. Simple.
    Not sure if it is that simple. Personally, I think Spring has played pretty well and is more of a threat going forward than Jose. That being said I think a lot of Semedo's work is "invisible" if that makes sense.

    Also, Racon's form seems to have dropped without Semedo in there but is it a direct consequence? I don't know.

    I'd bring back Sodje definately but I am erring towards dropping Jonjo for a game. Controversial I know.
  • [cite]Posted By: WSS[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: Low_Ears[/cite]Semedo and Sodje back in - Llera and Spring to miss out. Simple.
    Not sure if it is that simple. Personally, I think Spring has played pretty well and is more of a threat going forward than Jose. That being said I think a lot of Semedo's work is "invisible" if that makes sense.

    Also, Racon's form seems to have dropped without Semedo in there but is it a direct consequence? I don't know.

    I'd bring back Sodje definately but I am erring towards dropping Jonjo for a game. Controversial I know.
    Good managers know their best starting eleven, even if they have to name a different eleven from time to time. Parky knows his best eleven and it includes Semedo and Sodje. For that reason, I expect both to play.

    The point about Semedo being less of a threat than Spring is right. However, the more important question is how threatening the team is with Spring in it compared to with Semedo in it. Semedo does a lot of the un-glamorous, defensive work that frees up the creative players to creat chances. That's why I expect him to be selected (if fit).

    Llera is not one of our best two centre backs right now. For that reason I expect Sodje to start alongside Dailly.

    I also expect Shelvey to start; but to miss a few games fairly soon. Not because he's not good enough, but because, at 17, he needs to be used smartly. And, like Paul Walsh when we last got promoted from this division, he'll be better off with a few rests.
  • I'm with Low_Ears: Spring on the bench, Semedo in - we've missed him more than we realise. Spring is OK, but still a bit too Bryan Hughes-lite for my liking.
  • gone for an Uddersfield win, 2-0, but only because they have got two bang in form strikers and we havn't even got one.
  • A lot of it depends on the fitness (or not) of the "walking wounded" such as Richardson, Sam, Burton and perhaps Racon.

    There may not be too many options open to Parky in reality.

    Assuming everyone is nominally fit though I would start with last week's team for man management reasons as much as anything. However I would not shirk getting Semedo on for, probably Spring but Shelvey if he looks jaded, at half time and similarly Sodje if Miguel looks a bit iffy. One also has to consider that 36 year old Dailly has played all the matches (bar hereford I think) so may also need a rest meaning Sodje and Llera.
  • High scoring draw for me.

    Semedo needs to come back in however well Spring has done imo.
  • Semedo and McLeod in for Shelvey and Sam
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  • Good build up piece WSS.

    Personally i don't want to play too many that are supposedly carrying knocks.

    If everyone is match fit, i would bring back Sodje for Llera, and bring in McKenzie for Jonjo and play a more conventional 442. Spring has done little to deserve being dropped, and you would have to consider the impact it would have on him if he is taken out again whilst playing well. I'd start him, and make a big thing that you were putting trust in him. With Semedo in the wings, he knows what will happen if his performances drop, and its a shame we haven't got that form of pressure in too many other positions.

    Hudders will look at what Oldham did and gamble their preparation that we will tacticly line up the same. Its not the time for wholesale change, but i do think its the right time for a tinker.
  • [cite]Posted By: AFKABartram[/cite]but i do think its the right time for a tinker.

    perhaps we should loan in Eastwood ??
  • From well-written match preview to racism in 13 moves! A new club record!
  • Semedo and Sodje back in...

    Llera back on the bench.

    I'd go 4-4-2, and try McLeod from the start and give Jonjo a rest.
  • Actually i've changed my mind already about Sodje and Llera !

    Tough call this week.
  • [cite]Posted By: AFKABartram[/cite]


    i do think its the right time for a tinker.


    We are not playing Gillingham this week...
  • The racist joke about "tinkers" has already been made.
  • and so has your over-the-top highlighting.


    Back to thread
  • Ffs afka wasn't being racist and you know it I didn't even notice unil you two brought it up!
  • I think the next two team selections will tell us a lot about where Parky is right now. There are some difficult questions and easy answers. For instance, it would be really easy to keep Shelvey, Sam and Burton in for both games: surely no-one would criticise him if he did that. The difficult choices will be not whether, but when to rest them. If it were left to me, I would plan now to make sure I had my first choice eleven out on Saturday and to change it for the next game. Make it clear to all theplayers that the selection's been made for two games; we'll be playing 4-4-1-1 at home and 4-4-2 with different personnel at Gillingham.
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  • I'm lead to believe by limited reading of the site this week, that we are the worst team in the world ever, so we should lose, no?
  • I've gone for a draw as I think Parky will keep the same team. However he should change things as we have gone 3 games without scoring but kept 2 clean sheets. I'd bring in Sodje for Llera, start with Spring but change to Semedo in 2nd half, put Mackenzie on the left, bring Bailey into the middle in place of Shelvey and leave Burton up front.
  • I would play two up top, bringing in McKenzie to partner Burton. Hopefully this will give Burton a chance to make a few channel runs to provide us with an out ball. At the moment he's too static, maybe because he's been told to stay in the middle?

    Leave Bailey and Sam as they are with Spring or Shelvey to partner Racon as the two box to box midfielders.

    Sodje in for Llera
  • My team would be..,

    elliott
    Richardson---dailly--llera---youga
    racon---spring---semedo---bailey
    mckenzie-burton
  • Mine would be

    Elliot
    Richardson - Dailly - Llera - Youga
    Sam --- Racon --- Semedo --- Bailey
    Shelvey
    Burton

    and I would let them know beforehand that my team for Gilligham would be:

    Elliot
    Richardson - Dailly - Sodje - Youga
    Sam --- Semedo --- Bailey --- Racon
    McLeod --- Burton
  • 2-4 away win, but what a game
  • lets hope they come and make a game of it 3-1 to us , bailey 2, and dailly
    come on you addicks.
  • Defeat. It's been coming for a while now.
  • edited October 2009
    For the first time since Norwich five games ago, it looks like Parky will have the opportunity to start the same XI that won us our first six matches. Given that we've only won one game since, the temptation to go back to that starting XI will be strong - and too strong for Parky to resist, I think.

    Personally, I think that is totally unfair and demoralising on Spring. I'd also play two up front and rest Shelvey, who might as well not have been on the pitch last Saturday. But I really couldn't criticise Parky if he plays the XI which did so well back in Aug and early Sept.

    However, if it's 0-0 at H/T, he surely has to be bold and go 4-4-2 immediately rather than waiting until 63 mins. If that means taking Shelvey off at h/t, so be it - and if a few people boo, then sod them.

    I've backed us to win, because if we don't, that will be one win in seven - and we are far, far better than that! Bailey is due a goal - just one in the last seven games - and Burton will get his first in five games. So Charlton 2-1.
  • Won't be going to this as i'll be at the emirates (suicidal :-(.) the only time I didn't wear my charlton shirt was against, Colchester. so I'll try my best to wear it at the emirates - perhaps some pre match printing of i 8 arsenal on the back too.

    i think we'll lose though, we may well just need it to snap back into 2nd gear, we've got it in us to smash some teams, but not on this current run.
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