So when Parky made Deon Burton his first signing, we (me included) all leapt about in rage:
"is this what Charlton has come to?"
"We've sunk to a new low"
"He's just Marcus Bent lite!"
A few months on, and now we acknowledge that Parky is a genius in picking up Leon McKenzie, another journeyman striker, on a freebie.
How our tune has changed, eh - just shows how a few good results can rebuild trust and confidence!
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Deon is certainly playing well at the moment and is being played to his strengths by PP.
But now most people understand that the team is set up to score goals from midfield, and that Burton is the fulcrum of much of that.
And that he plays selflessly for the team, like Shaun Bartlett used to do.
And got flack for.
a bit off subject, but like Heskey did for England. BTW im not comparing Capello to Parkinson....yet
Parkello ......?
Or that some of the players (Not All) as I suspect have just found their level or a level they look good at !
How our tune has changed, eh - just shows how a few good results can rebuild trust and confidence![/quote]
Or that some of the players (Not All) as I suspect have just found their level or a level they look good at ![/quote]
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Let's wait until he's scored a few goals, made a few assists and kept himself injury free before we laud this acquisition.
I don't think that Leon's ability or desire have ever been in doubt, but his injury record suggests we are taking a punt.
Also never really seen Leon play so I am gonna wait before I start moaning, although by his stature i would guess like Burton he is more of a hold up player but from his goal scoring record he doesn't seem a bad catch for this league. l'm happy with Sodje and Holden though so well done Phil.
Have asked a Coventry fan, says he's quick, has a decent work rate but crossing is poor, though he says he's not a winger. He'd have been happy to keep him as he's decent cover, and is sure he'll cut in League One especially if we play him up front.
I'd imagine Parky wanted someone as an alternative to Burton and someone that could play alongside him, so hopefully with his pace he can do that, and it'll be a bonus if he can hold up the ball if Burton can't play.
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of course I'll comment. Still don't rate Burton that highly, 2 goals in five games isn't that great a return and on Sat at Tranmere I think he had his worse game this season. IMHO we still need a forward who will run with the ball, take on defenders and shoot !!
4-5-1 isn't ideal, but the way we are playing it maximises our strengths and consequently it is fast becoming a problem for our opponents to solve.
4-5-1 isn't ideal, but the way we are playing it maximises our strengths and consequently it is fast becoming a problem for our opponents to solve.[/quote]
Agreed, at the moment 4-5-1 is the perfect way of bringing our midfielders into the game, usually 4-5-1 would seem like a defensive tactical move but the way we are playing at the moment the flooded midfield has allowed fullbacks to overlap and midfielders to play of the heels and knock downs of Deon. Means Deons got to work hard so I dont see him lasting the whole season but at the moment its really working
Given his role is to hold it up and move it on to the flair players, it is a good return. How many players at this level are quick, can hold the ball up, take on defenders and score goals? I don't think we can afford Ibrahimovic.
I think it will be interesting if we fall behind and Parky has to change things and go after the game. Then we might see if Burton & Mackenzie can play together.
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We went a goal down vs Orient, maintained a 4-5-1 formation and of course won, whether we'd have kept that formation if we were still 1-0 down with ten minutes to go is a moot point, but our control of the midfield enabled us to keep control of that game, the chances came and were taken.
On paper 4-5-1 is a defensive formation, but with any tactic or formation it is how it's used and whether the players understand what is expected of them and do enough to make it work, to date they have done.
Suppose the answer to that is dont go 2-0 down
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Essentially a point that is open to debate and discussion, in otherwords two people could have different views on the matter.
The origin is Anglo-Saxon - deriving from a Volkmoot or Folkmoot where a number of people would meet to discuss what to do about the vikings or whatever was exercising their minds at the time. This was one of the earliest precursors of our current Parliament.
That is 18/19 goals in a 46 game season - there won't be 10 strikers who score that many league goals.
To add to the 4-5-1 debate - it's only defensive if the 5 midfielders are a flat 5, which ours clearly aren't. Given we're the second top scorers so far (we're on 13 goals, Huddersfield have 14, 7 against Brighton) there is little evidence to suggest we're playing defensively.
So Folkmoot = simply means peoples' meeting.
Logically then = a 'moot point' is a point made at a meeting.
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It's more as I say a debateable point where two points of view could be held that might be diametrically opposed - or at least differ widely enough that some form of consensus and general agreement needs to be reached. Hence here we are debating the wisdom of 4-4-2 vs 4-5-1, equally we could debate whether we should eat an egg from the sharp or the rounded end.
The term "moot" is currently used mostly in law where advocates argue the toss over a point of law as part of their training.
To add to Dabos' point, we're actually playing 4-4-1-1 with Shelvey in the hole being given a free role, alternately becoming the second striker or the prime attacking midfielder = in effect, a very loose 4-4-2.
Also, we are at our best when the midfield 4 play further up the park.
Which means, the midfield is the main scoring threat, ghosting in late from deeper positions, frequently not being picked up by defenders. Bailey, particularly profits with these tactics.
Last season we frequently found ourselves defending desperately and erratically on our 18 yard line, letting our opponents get within shooting distance - which cost us dearly.
Another point, and maybe not so obvious, is by pushing the midfield further up the park - we're actually defending from the front ..... denying time and space and closing down opponents in their own half, and enabling us to win back the loose ball, thus building another attack and keeping pressure on opponents.
It also gives our defenders more time to read the situation and position themselves effectively when faced with a breakaway attack.
Just some of the reasons why we can control games for sustained periods.
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I'd argue that we are playing 4-1-3-1-1
With Semedo playing the defensive/Makalele role, with three midfielders generally ahead of him and Shelvey being the fulcrum of the attack. Whatever we are doing doesn't really matter - because it works.
Ergo hence therefore
Parky is better than Mourinho
QED, FACT etc etc
Could say that, and of course it doesn't matter, but he played with more out and out wingers didn't he? It would be like us pushing Sam and Bailey right up, with Shelvey and Semedo both playing deeper.
Golfie, I have a spare pair of my rose tinted spectacles which I'll gladly give you for nix....:o)
On Saturday Burton created the second goal for Semedo with a great back heel which would have graced the Premier League, his movement in pulling defenders wide gave space for us to torment Tranmere down the flanks. His first touch and close control was excellent and he put off their keeper for the fourth goal. The one blemish was the missed header. Otherwise he had a great game as a team player.