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Pardew: "Not had a stable boardroom"

Pardew interviewed on SSN said that he's at club that has a stable boardroom and that he's not had one of those for a long time.

Obvoiusly West Ham, but by that statement inferring to us.

Smug fecker, nearly kicked the plasma in at the sight of his face.
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  • Southampton have only just been taken over, so how can they have a 'stable boardroom'?

    He's started talking rubbish particularly early this time.
  • Maybe he's simply telling it like it is...
  • i wonder if the blinkered southampton fans get sucked in by the smooth talking charismatic personality that had a few charlton fans wetting their pants cos he was more exciting to listen to than curbs
    aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah
  • He may be referring to pv leaving and sw joining and him reporting to sw and not rm so there was a shuffle last summer? He used to have lunch with the board but not that often and he didn't know who everyone was. (Or care!)
  • [quote][cite]Posted By: oohaahmortimer[/cite]i wonder if the blinkered southampton fans get sucked in by the smooth talking charismatic personality that had a few charlton fans wetting their pants cos he was more exciting to listen to than curbs
    aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah[/quote]

    FFS, even *you're* more exciting than Curbs. . . . .
  • When he was at the Valley i sensed a distinct lack of care about the club as if he was just waiting to get out. Not sure of all the ins and outs of him leaving of course but its just seemed that way to me.
  • curbs can bore me anytime.....

    i used to love his post match interviews....
  • That might be true, but the board didn't choose the players he signed, he did. He wasted millions on players he chose and couldn't get the best out of any of them.
  • How did the instability in the board room affect his decision to use 60 different players in a season? How did boardroom instability determine our inability to defend, play set pieces and score goals?

    Pardew needs to take some responsibility for the shitheap he left our club in.
  • He is probably talking about the Zabeel deal which definitely did have an adverse affect on last season, but its not an excuse for Pardew being crap.
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  • Valley_floyd_red i am with you on this one but i think thats part of what football has become, no managers take responisbility for their actions.

    Despite my bitterness towards the man because of last season, the way i see it is all 3 main clubs hes managed Reading West ham and then us he has done poorly with and got away with it. Now if that was the business world the company (Club in this sense) would either make him pick up all of the debt he created or not have employed him in the first instance as he had rubbish records with other clubs. However he walks scott free, a few months later joins a complete mickey mouse team (saints). Now although i dont deny him the want to work and to accept a obviously good offer from saints i just feel that in football these sort of things are never done fairly and it seems that the fans are the ones loosing out every time.

    Now in the business world he wouldnt have been offered the job as he had no reocords of being any good at any team am i wrong also if you wernt to loose your job because of mistakes made you would recieve punishment for your actions but it appears if you are football manager (not a verygood one at that) you dont have to go through everyhting that the rest of us do when making mistakes in the office am i wrong?
  • edited July 2009
    [cite]Posted By: SparrowsLane[/cite]He is probably talking about the Zabeel deal which definitely did have an adverse affect on last season, but its not an excuse for Pardew being crap.

    He'll blame anyone and anything rather than admit his faults....egotistical arrogant twat.
  • pardew left us 3rd bottom ... parky sped up our inevitable decline amazingly
  • Losing Andy Reid was the real turning point, we were in touch with the top of the table when he was sold, by the board. Admitedly Andy Reid wanted the move so his motivation would have flagged had he not been allowed to join Sunderland.
  • edited July 2009
    To be fair his record pre us was reasonable,he got promotion with both Reading and West ham plus was within 4 minutes of winning the FA Cup. He left West Ham for alleged off field activities rather than his managerialability. There also seems to be a move by people to disassociate themselvesfrom his appointment at charlton. My recollection was that there was nobody - fan or board - who dod not think he was the messiah. Curbs was quoted as saying it took the fans 15 years to chant his name. Pardew had his name chanted before he was even appointed.

    Pardew talks a good talk, I was convinced in the forum in Kent just after his appointment and if he follows what he says,he could be a good thing for Southampton,however our experience is that he says one thing and does the opposite - "You need tough seasoned veterans to get out of The Championship" - he goes and buys young inexperienced players.

    As for board room stability, he is probably right,West Ham and ourselves showed anything less than stability during his time.
  • [cite]Posted By: c4fcdenmark[/cite]Losing Andy Reid was the real turning point, we were in touch with the top of the table when he was sold, by the board. Admitedly Andy Reid wanted the move so his motivation would have flagged had he not been allowed to join Sunderland.

    Pardew acquiesced in the sale of Andy Reid. If he'd put up resistance the board would not have sold him - after all they then signed Andy Gray at substantial cost at Pardew's insistence - but Reid didn't suit the way Pardew wanted to play.
  • Pardew knew the way he wanted to play??????
  • What was the way Pardew wanted to play ?
  • .Now in the business world he wouldnt have been offered the job as he had no reocords of being any good at any team am i wrong also if you wernt to loose your job because of mistakes made you would recieve punishment for your actions but it appears if you are football manager (not a verygood one at that) you dont have to go through everyhting that the rest of us do when making mistakes in the office am i wrong?[/quote]

    Spot on. Trouble Ru1986 is that they (the managers) know that there isn't a great deal of what they(club board members) consider "proven" upper tier managers and so they get away with murder. They know they will get another crack of the whip whatever there previous club results were.
  • I agree Kap 10..... I also thought he was the best person for the job..... and when we beat West Ham with Curbs and day on the sidelines who would have thought we would be in the state we are in now compared to West Ham!

    The sale of Andy Reid, was more than just him going, it signalled the club had no fight to me, we lacked a creative midfield player that we have never replaced, or been able to . A few seasons before/past we had players like Smirtin, Parker, Reid, Bowyer, Kinsella etc etc...... ball winners and goal scorers.

    As others have stated we bought players that the board must have sanctioned that were overpriced and over rated, probably the only ones that would have come !
    In recent seasons, the team looks unbalanced, and lacked players that would provide the forwards with the service they need.

    Why he could not persuade Reid to stay till the summer I have no idea, we may have even got more money for him! I appreciate you cannot have players in a team that do not want to play for you, but is that not what a manager is there for! man management.

    We lost our way, our talisman, and our confidence all in the sale of one player IMO.
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  • edited July 2009
    A player plays for his manager, not the club. It's the manager who will get the respect, response and willingness to fight for the win. Harry redknapp is the example of this. Players will fight to the end for him, the same players who wouldn't for the previous manager.

    Pards mucked about with the selection so much I'm sure the boys were just bewildered with him.
  • This is a cause and effect thing, if he'd been doing his job and getting results I'm pretty sure that the board would have been united. In any case as far as I can see he did unite the board - into agreeing that he had to go.
  • If he was getting results we'd all be united behind him. And back in the premiership!
  • Wrong isnt it they dont take any responsibility for their actions.
    I just cant see how you can employ someone (in or out of football) who has just come from a job where he failed misarbly. If that was me as an employer at saints and i had seen that he had just relegated a team who were once a premiership club (and not a yo-yo club like west brom a propper prem club) i wouldnt have employed him if you would have paid me to do so. I just dont see how that can be seen as a good employment as a company Saints cant see it as a good appointment but they all seemed happy on SS news.

    Strange concept one rule for footie managers one rule for the rest of the world football fan or not.
  • At City addicks it was remarked by Martin Simmons how clubs never refer to previous clubs to find out about the managers they are about to pay thousands of ounds for, QPR appointing Dowue was the case in point, but you would have expected Saints would wonder about Pardew
  • He was cr@p for us and he'll be cr@p for Saints, it's just a matter of time before the honeymoon effect wears off.
    At least he's falling through the divisions even faster than us.
  • The Andy Reid sale had the absolute HALLMARKS of Pardew phillosophy. Buy AN Other striker, don't calculate where the goals will be assisted from but buy another striker. Of course Reid was interested in going but the deal hadn't been set up for long otherwise we'd have heard about it through the press; Sunderland's transfers under Keane were common knowledge, the constant press overtures to Stephen Hunt being proof.

    This same approach was undertaken at WHAm were he insisted on playing three up front, but although there was a terrible support for them many of his strikers could assist each other. This fundamental blindness to team construction is only going to get worse in his career.
  • He should have been more worried about the "unstable" team that he created. imo.
  • Nice to see that he is blaming others, anyone but himself. I think he will enjoy a honeymoon period like he achieved at West Ham and Charlton, but ultimately he is a flawed manager with delusions of grandeur.
  • [cite]Posted By: ColinTat[/cite]The Andy Reid sale had the absolute HALLMARKS of Pardew phillosophy. Buy AN Other striker, don't calculate where the goals will be assisted from but buy another striker. Of course Reid was interested in going but the deal hadn't been set up for long otherwise we'd have heard about it through the press; Sunderland's transfers under Keane were common knowledge, the constant press overtures to Stephen Hunt being proof.

    This same approach was undertaken at WHAm were he insisted on playing three up front, but although there was a terrible support for them many of his strikers could assist each other. This fundamental blindness to team construction is only going to get worse in his career.

    A lot of people on here had Reid to go to Sunderland before the season started. Surprised that it didn't happen to January.
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