[cite]Posted By: joeaddick[/cite]I can't believe John Fryer doesn't get more of a mention.....Did he even get a mention so far?
Not saying he was the greatest, but If it weren't for him there wouldn't have been a CAFC to support ...
I mentioned him in passing.
So you did... "although what he did after saving us was horrendous"
Why?... I don't remember there being many other options for him at the time...
Depends who you believe as to whether or not there were other options. I had no inside track so don't know.
It would have been more accurate for me to say this I guess:
"although the consequence of what he did after saving us was horrendous"
I don't need to elaborate on that. You know the history as well as I do.
[cite]Posted By: joeaddick[/cite]I can't believe John Fryer doesn't get more of a mention.....Did he even get a mention so far?
Not saying he was the greatest, but If it weren't for him there wouldn't have been a CAFC to support ...
I mentioned him in passing.
So you did... "although what he did after saving us was horrendous"
Why?... I don't remember there being many other options for him at the time...
Depends who you believe as to whether or not there were other options. I had no inside track so don't know.
It would have been more accurate for me to say this I guess:
"althoughthe consequence ofwhat he did after saving us was horrendous"
I don't need to elaborate on that. You know the history as well as I do.
Yes I know, I was one of the 4,000 that stuck it out throughout that period, before the Valley return, and will always appreciate what he did....
[cite]Posted By: joeaddick[/cite]I can't believe John Fryer doesn't get more of a mention.....Did he even get a mention so far?
Not saying he was the greatest, but If it weren't for him there wouldn't have been a CAFC to support ...
Good call but he doesn't get my vote because of his involvement with Noades
[cite]Posted By: Addickted[/cite]Fryer wouldn't get mine either...................
And he was my Great Uncle!
Why? Didn't he buy you sweets or something?
[cite]Posted By: Valley McMoist[/cite]
[cite]Posted By: joeaddick[/cite]I can't believe John Fryer doesn't get more of a mention.....Did he even get a mention so far?
Not saying he was the greatest, but If it weren't for him there wouldn't have been a CAFC to support ...
Good call but he doesn't get my vote because of his involvement with Noades
As mentioned before, I don't recall him having that many options at the time....
In the four-and-a-half years since I posted this question originally, has anyone moved up or down the list? For my money, Chris Powell could now be considered as a candidate.
Alan Curbishley for me. Making Charlton an established and comfortable Premier League side was a tougher feat than winning the FA Cup straight after the Second World War IMO.
Our stadium nearly doubled in size in the time he was in charge of us. That wouldn't have been possible without the promotions.
Go anywhere outside of London with your Charlton shirt on, strike up a convo with any other random Football fan, and within a couple of minutes they will mention Alan Curbishley's name. He is Mr Charlton.
You just cannot question his unwavering devotion to the club and his efforts despite a bad illness in this period. I think his role during what I will always think of as the Chancers Interregnum gets thumbs up from me. He does his best and he is what we.got....and i feel lucky. The old school local businessman Chairman model resulted in a range of personalties and i always thought we got lucky with RM. He made some footballing errors of judgment...well one big one ... Dowie..and it was.all down hill from there on for a while as he chased the Premier Dream○ .
He put in his hard.earned when it mattered. We could so easily have been a Notts County or Coventry had RM bailed out when he was getting a bit of flak.
One of the most reassuring aspects.of the takeover for me was the retention of RM.
Long before my time, but as Henry and Len Glover mention, the Gliksten brothers rescuing the club when it was facing closure and appointing Jimmy Seed as manager.
They didn't only save the Club, but Jimmy Seed rebuilt a dead-on-its-knees struggling Third Division team and won that League's title the very next season.
Having been promoted to the Second Division, Charlton finished 2nd behind Champions Man Utd - and were promoted to the First Division, the Premier League of it's day.
That was an incredible rise, with consecutive promotions, from Third Division to First. No team had ever done that before - a record that was to stand for more than 40 years.
But the story wasn't over as Jimmy Seed's Charlton immediately set the top Division on fire, neck and neck with Manchester City who only pipped us to the title by one point - that 2nd place finish is the closest Charlton have ever been to winning the League title.
Next season, Charlton finished 4th, and 3rd the season after - before the War stopped our momentum in its tracks, as the League was suspended for 6 seasons.
Jimmy Seed achieved all this with many of the same nucleus of players that had won that Third Division title.
Reaching two war time finals and winning one, followed soon after by two Wembley FA Cup finals - brought the FA Cup to The Valley.
Charlton Athletic became a household name and remained a top tier First Division club for more than 20 years. And that's why we have a Jimmy South Stand today.
Curbishley,Lawrence,Murray and Alwyn they have all contibuted massively to the club. Very difficult to seperate their achievements. We were lucky to have them all associated with our club.
Long before my time, but as Henry and Len Glover mention, the Gliksten brothers rescuing the club when it was facing closure and appointing Jimmy Seed as manager.
They didn't only save the Club, but Jimmy Seed rebuilt a dead-on-its-knees struggling Third Division team and won that League's title the very next season.
Having been promoted to the Second Division, Charlton finished 2nd behind Champions Man Utd - and were promoted to the First Division, the Premier League of it's day.
That was an incredible rise, with consecutive promotions, from Third Division to First. No team had ever done that before - a record that was to stand for more than 40 years.
But the story wasn't over as Jimmy Seed's Charlton immediately set the top Division on fire, neck and neck with Manchester City who only pipped us to the title by one point - that 2nd place finish is the closest Charlton have ever been to winning the League title.
Next season, Charlton finished 4th, and 3rd the season after - before the War stopped our momentum in its tracks, as the League was suspended for 6 seasons.
Jimmy Seed achieved all this with many of the same nucleus of players that had won that Third Division title.
Reaching two war time finals and winning one, followed soon after by two Wembley FA Cup finals - brought the FA Cup to The Valley.
Charlton Athletic became a household name and remained a top tier First Division club for more than 20 years. And that's why we have a Jimmy South Stand today.
Deffo Jimmy Seed. If we did not lose those six seasons to WW2, we'd probably be as big as Arsenal... No pipe dream here, read what Oggy Red wrote above, it's very plain to see this!
In the four-and-a-half years since I posted this question originally, has anyone moved up or down the list? For my money, Chris Powell could now be considered as a candidate.
As the most important person in Charlton's history... Really? Dearie me.
In the four-and-a-half years since I posted this question originally, has anyone moved up or down the list? For my money, Chris Powell could now be considered as a candidate.
As the most important person in Charlton's history... Really? Dearie me.
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Then Seed/Bartram/Lennie/Alwen/Curbs etc.
Depends who you believe as to whether or not there were other options. I had no inside track so don't know.
It would have been more accurate for me to say this I guess:
"although the consequence of what he did after saving us was horrendous"
I don't need to elaborate on that. You know the history as well as I do.
Yes I know, I was one of the 4,000 that stuck it out throughout that period, before the Valley return, and will always appreciate what he did....
Good call but he doesn't get my vote because of his involvement with Noades
And he was my Great Uncle!
Why? Didn't he buy you sweets or something?
As mentioned before, I don't recall him having that many options at the time....
Our stadium nearly doubled in size in the time he was in charge of us. That wouldn't have been possible without the promotions.
Go anywhere outside of London with your Charlton shirt on, strike up a convo with any other random Football fan, and within a couple of minutes they will mention Alan Curbishley's name. He is Mr Charlton.
You just cannot question his unwavering devotion to the club and his efforts despite a bad illness in this period. I think his role during what I will always think of as the Chancers Interregnum gets thumbs up from me. He does his best and he is what we.got....and i feel lucky. The old school local businessman Chairman model resulted in a range of personalties and i always thought we got lucky with RM. He made some footballing errors of judgment...well one big one ... Dowie..and it was.all down hill from there on for a while as he chased the Premier Dream○ .
He put in his hard.earned when it mattered. We could so easily have been a Notts County or Coventry had RM bailed out when he was getting a bit of flak.
One of the most reassuring aspects.of the takeover for me was the retention of RM.
They didn't only save the Club, but Jimmy Seed rebuilt a dead-on-its-knees struggling Third Division team and won that League's title the very next season.
Having been promoted to the Second Division, Charlton finished 2nd behind Champions Man Utd - and were promoted to the First Division, the Premier League of it's day.
That was an incredible rise, with consecutive promotions, from Third Division to First. No team had ever done that before - a record that was to stand for more than 40 years.
But the story wasn't over as Jimmy Seed's Charlton immediately set the top Division on fire, neck and neck with Manchester City who only pipped us to the title by one point - that 2nd place finish is the closest Charlton have ever been to winning the League title.
Next season, Charlton finished 4th, and 3rd the season after - before the War stopped our momentum in its tracks, as the League was suspended for 6 seasons.
Jimmy Seed achieved all this with many of the same nucleus of players that had won that Third Division title.
Reaching two war time finals and winning one, followed soon after by two Wembley FA Cup finals - brought the FA Cup to The Valley.
Charlton Athletic became a household name and remained a top tier First Division club for more than 20 years.
And that's why we have a Jimmy South Stand today.
:-)
Golfie
Then anyone else