[cite]Posted By: LargeAddick[/cite]GOOD ON HIM. Leaves us on a free for a better standard of football. Mugged off by Parky last season so who can blame the lad. Who next to leave the sinking ship ? Bailey ?
OH, and we couldn't even offer him enough to match his last contract to ensure we got even a development fee.
I really think you're overstating the club's desire to keep him. I think the club have got it right and are focusing on trying to keep much more important players, and Wright i think is at best a very average League 1/2 player. He'll be under a very good manager in Adkins but i'm not expecting him to be a signing who comes back to haunt us.
[quote][cite]Posted By: mart77[/cite][quote]I really think you're overstating the club's desire to keep him. I think the club have got it right and are focusing on trying to keep much more important players, and Wright i think is at best a very average League 1/2 player. He'll be under a very good manager in Adkins but i'm not expecting him to be a signing who comes back to haunt us.[/quote]
I'm with Mart77, his talent hasnt matched his attitude for us, best of luck to him at Scunny, but I dont think we were in any way fighting to keep him
[quote][cite]Posted By: LargeAddick[/cite]GOOD ON HIM. Leaves us on a free for a better standard of football. Mugged off by Parky last season so who can blame the lad. Who next to leave the sinking ship ? Bailey ?[/quote]
Talking about being mugged off, I encountered the beggar with the cut arm at lunchtime, who blagged 20 bob off you Large a few months back. Claimed he had fallen off his bike & needed to get to Homerton Hospital!
OH, and we couldn't even offer him enough to match his last contract to ensure we got even a development fee.
Probably because he might have actually signed it if we'd offered one. Get the impression the club aren't that bothered about loosing him, and too be honest he's one I'm not going to lose much sleep over either. Never saw anything in his game to suggest he was the great prospect his agent (who I think is his Dad) keeps telling us via The Sun he is.
Would have been nice to have got a fee but to do that we'd have to offer a contract we didn't want him to sign. So best to let him just leave and use the wages on someone who might actually do something in the first team.
OH, and we couldn't even offer him enough to match his last contract to ensure we got even a development fee.[/quote]
Probably because he might have actually signed it if we'd offered one. Get the impression the club aren't that bothered about loosing him, and too be honest he's one I'm not going to lose much sleep over either. Never saw anything in his game to suggest he was the great prospect his agent (who I think is his Dad) keeps telling us via The Sun he is.
Would have been nice to have got a fee but to do that we'd have to offer a contract we didn't want him to sign. So best to let him just leave and use the wages on someone who might actually do something in the first team.[/quote]
He's not a bad player at all, but with the number of midfielders we have just weren't desperate to keep him. Not as good as what we have at the moment. I hope on 1st September he isn't better than what we have on that day.
Everyone says Adkins is a good manager, so surely he hasn't signed a poor player. No he's not a top prospect, but I don't see why in a few years time he can't possibly be a good Championship player. That's down to him though, depends how much he wants it. With Adkins there he has a good manager that gets the best out of players. Remember Youga after he came back from Scunthorpe? Full of confidence and looked a better player than he did last season.
In the end, unless he completely ruins his career, he should have a decent career around League One level as a minimum. At 19 he's still very young for a central midfielder, 3 years time he might well have played 100+ games - and look how much Michael Turner, Campbell-Ryce and Shittu developed after they got that much experience.
[quote][cite]Posted By: mart77[/cite][quote][cite]Posted By: Henry Irving[/cite]Good luck to him. Adkins is a good manager and will get the best out of him.
What that is remains to be seen but as others have said Scunny, nice club and all that, ain't Newcastle or Villa.
Does free up a midfield space for Salami[/quote]
Go on then Henry i'll be the one to ask, who's Salami?[/quote]
Adigun Salimi. Nigerian midfielder, who plays in Denmark, we were tracking. Dazzler21 can tell you all about it.
[cite]Posted By: falconwood_1[/cite]"Adkins is a good manager and will get the best out of him."
Whereas we. . . .
I'm not overly fussed about losing Wright, as long as we have something better coming in, something we have failed to do for too long now.
I really meant he MIGHT get the best out of him. Of course a lot of it's up to Wright to have a good attitude.
Anyway signing for a Championship club - it's a good opportunity for him. Be interesting to see how his career goes in the next few years.
Really we've got to hope we can keep Shelvey, Racon, Bailey and (unlikely now) Zheng - if we keep them we probably don't need to replace him. Still have Spring, Sinclair and possibly Holland as well.
Apparently was on s pretty high wage (comparitively to his peers). Better to spend on a finished article as opposed to someone who may amount to very little
josh wasnt a bad player just waiting to see who else will be on there way read in one of the papers millwall of all teams have beaten us to the signing of a winger from plymouth what the f k is going on sort it out charlton.
Said to be on 1,200 wasn't it when leaked in the press? For me it's a ridiculous wage for a young footballer with some skills but not excessive in today's market and he signed pro forms just past the prem gravy train. So was on less money than say Randolph, who for me is similar in potential and temprement.
Good luck to him, he seems to think he can sit back and pull strings, that might be the case when a hard working Gills team made space for him but won't be possible at many levels and many clubs. Adkins will have a well organised and well drilled squad, which should provide much support for him. An extended period of play in Scunthorpe's first team at his age is just about the right time for him to pick up good habits to go with his vision. If he doesn't become industrious then his lack of physicality will see him in Scotland or the lower leagues very quickly. Unlike Youga, Wright has a footballing brain and actually might absorb the knowledge he get's from Adkins and interpret it himself at another club.
Sad to say he's at a better place for development than Pardew or Parker could provide.
Truth is unless anyone has seen him play in loads of reserve games or youth games none of us really know.
I can judge him on the 3 to 4 games I saw him play and wasn't impressed. Barnsley at home he looked about as ready as Wagstaff to play in our first team. I'm also not keen that he hangs around with Jack Tweed (although I appreciate you can't just drop a childhood friend).
I know we didn't want to keep him and Barnet didn't want him, when offered to them on a free during his loan period (may have been his wage demand).
I think we'll find out a lot of our rejects end up playing at a higher level. All the best to him, think he did OK when he played for us. I think any player that questioned the manager's decisions last year was showing sound judgement. Maybe if a few more had shown some nuts and risked their own position it would have forced the club to take decisions that might have improved our situation.
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Can we assume from this that Shelvey, Bailey, Racon, Sam and ZZ are staying?:-)
I really think you're overstating the club's desire to keep him. I think the club have got it right and are focusing on trying to keep much more important players, and Wright i think is at best a very average League 1/2 player. He'll be under a very good manager in Adkins but i'm not expecting him to be a signing who comes back to haunt us.
I'm with Mart77, his talent hasnt matched his attitude for us, best of luck to him at Scunny, but I dont think we were in any way fighting to keep him
Then again, the bright lights of Scunny nightlife may be just as bad.
Ha ha, yes indeed. I think it's only a few weeks since he was linked with Aston Villa and Newcastle!
Talking about being mugged off, I encountered the beggar with the cut arm at lunchtime, who blagged 20 bob off you Large a few months back. Claimed he had fallen off his bike & needed to get to Homerton Hospital!
Probably because he might have actually signed it if we'd offered one. Get the impression the club aren't that bothered about loosing him, and too be honest he's one I'm not going to lose much sleep over either. Never saw anything in his game to suggest he was the great prospect his agent (who I think is his Dad) keeps telling us via The Sun he is.
Would have been nice to have got a fee but to do that we'd have to offer a contract we didn't want him to sign. So best to let him just leave and use the wages on someone who might actually do something in the first team.
OH, and we couldn't even offer him enough to match his last contract to ensure we got even a development fee.[/quote]
Probably because he might have actually signed it if we'd offered one. Get the impression the club aren't that bothered about loosing him, and too be honest he's one I'm not going to lose much sleep over either. Never saw anything in his game to suggest he was the great prospect his agent (who I think is his Dad) keeps telling us via The Sun he is.
Would have been nice to have got a fee but to do that we'd have to offer a contract we didn't want him to sign. So best to let him just leave and use the wages on someone who might actually do something in the first team.[/quote]
Take a bow Peakie Rocket, voice of reason.
What that is remains to be seen but as others have said Scunny, nice club and all that, ain't Newcastle or Villa.
Does free up a midfield space for Salami
Go on then Henry i'll be the one to ask, who's Salami?
Everyone says Adkins is a good manager, so surely he hasn't signed a poor player. No he's not a top prospect, but I don't see why in a few years time he can't possibly be a good Championship player. That's down to him though, depends how much he wants it. With Adkins there he has a good manager that gets the best out of players. Remember Youga after he came back from Scunthorpe? Full of confidence and looked a better player than he did last season.
In the end, unless he completely ruins his career, he should have a decent career around League One level as a minimum. At 19 he's still very young for a central midfielder, 3 years time he might well have played 100+ games - and look how much Michael Turner, Campbell-Ryce and Shittu developed after they got that much experience.
He's Suzi Sausage's Italian cousin. ;-0}
What that is remains to be seen but as others have said Scunny, nice club and all that, ain't Newcastle or Villa.
Does free up a midfield space for Salami[/quote]
Go on then Henry i'll be the one to ask, who's Salami?[/quote]
Adigun Salimi. Nigerian midfielder, who plays in Denmark, we were tracking. Dazzler21 can tell you all about it.
A bit tasty by all accounts
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adigun_Salami
Whereas we. . . .
I'm not overly fussed about losing Wright, as long as we have something better coming in, something we have failed to do for too long now.
I really meant he MIGHT get the best out of him. Of course a lot of it's up to Wright to have a good attitude.
Anyway signing for a Championship club - it's a good opportunity for him. Be interesting to see how his career goes in the next few years.
Really we've got to hope we can keep Shelvey, Racon, Bailey and (unlikely now) Zheng - if we keep them we probably don't need to replace him. Still have Spring, Sinclair and possibly Holland as well.
Good luck to him, he seems to think he can sit back and pull strings, that might be the case when a hard working Gills team made space for him but won't be possible at many levels and many clubs. Adkins will have a well organised and well drilled squad, which should provide much support for him. An extended period of play in Scunthorpe's first team at his age is just about the right time for him to pick up good habits to go with his vision. If he doesn't become industrious then his lack of physicality will see him in Scotland or the lower leagues very quickly. Unlike Youga, Wright has a footballing brain and actually might absorb the knowledge he get's from Adkins and interpret it himself at another club.
Sad to say he's at a better place for development than Pardew or Parker could provide.
Adkins said he'll play a big role this season.
I can judge him on the 3 to 4 games I saw him play and wasn't impressed. Barnsley at home he looked about as ready as Wagstaff to play in our first team. I'm also not keen that he hangs around with Jack Tweed (although I appreciate you can't just drop a childhood friend).
I know we didn't want to keep him and Barnet didn't want him, when offered to them on a free during his loan period (may have been his wage demand).
And this is what Adkins thinks:
"He's got a great range of passing on him. He's young, he's 19 and has been involved in the England set-up.
"We're trying to bring young, hungry players into the building and he fits that bill....."
And if Adkins does get a result with Wright, then he's the one manager that might get our under-performing, under-achievers moulded into a team.
So make him our next manager.
Even if he brings Josh Wright back with him .
;o)
Since when are scunny bigger than us. in division above us granted BUT
Shucks guys I'm blushing LOL