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Would you entrust Parky with club funds next year

So far since taking over he has brought in:

Burton - managed one penalty for us in how many games. Now can't even get in the team but he is here permanently. Waste of a signing on fee and wages IMO.

Spring - has socred a couple, but looks lightweight and unable to even make th squad for the last few weeks, but is here permanently. Waste of a signing on fee and wages IMO.

Butterfield - Keeping Mootoo and Solly out of the team even though at least one of these should be here next season, whereas I very much doubt he will be, slow and very unfit when he first arrived. Waste of a loan fee and wages IMO.

Gillespie - old, unfit, no good. Waste of a loan fee and wages IMO.

Kandol - No first touch, no awareness, no composure, no skill, tries reasonably hard (but no where near a Varney for instance), few goals, could not hack it at Leeds int he league below. Waste of a loan fee and wages IMO.

Ward - Good defender, one of the best loan signings we have made - good call by Parky

Mceverley - Lots of effort, limited ability, injured. Cant blame Parky for injury and on balance a good loan signing.

Soares - slow, ponderous, played out of position, added nothing, stimied the chances and experience of some of our own players (like Sam) - waste of loan fee and wages IMO.


Not sure I have them all, may well have missed one or two, but in my judgement that is 8 players in of which only 2 have been decent. Doesn't fill me with hope. Sure, people will say he didn't have a lot of choice given where we were but I personally think he should have done better or advised the board not to waste yet more of their cash. Ultimately he made the decisions and therefore should live or die by these...
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  • I would. In particular the sum required to pay up his contract.
  • I wouldn't trust Parky with the whip money
  • If he is still in charge i will not be renewing my season ticket simple as that.
  • edited April 2009
    There won't be any funds.

    Ends discussion.
  • I think it's NO but fear he is safe for next season at least , due to contract issues and the cost of early pay off
  • Our funds to invest in new players next year is going to be absolutely zero, so it's a bit of a silly question really. However, I would be happy for Parky to remain as our manager. After all, how are we going to attract anybody else with no funds to invest?!
  • Keep. We need stability. Another managerial change won't do that as the squad is going to be decimated once again. What are we going to do if the successor bums? Have another manager in by this time next year?
  • next season is our chance to start afresh.

    he has had his chance with some reasonable players and failed, he wont have these players next season so might just as well start again from scratch.
  • Parky's scouting system seems to involve google and the word PALACE! (Soares, Ward,Butterfield- all loan players who have Palace on their CV!)
  • Did you forget Murty or was he one of Pardew's, I can't remember?

    Yes, the loanees haven't set the world alight, but I'm prepared to give him his head this summer.
    Shame he hasn't got the sort of funds availble that some of his predecessors had.
    The team has looked solid, capable and up for it recently and I've enjoyed watching them.

    I can understand others not agreeing with me.

    The alternative is to replace Parky of course. Anybody got anyone in mind?
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  • [cite]Posted By: uncle[/cite]I wouldn't trust Parky with the whip money

    You'd let him in the whip in the first place???
  • can someone tell me , given the finances and the apaaling long term injuries we've had to endure this seasion ie ZZ Fotune Racon Gray etc etc who we could have nave afforded tos sign was avaiable without going us out of business? sensible answers only please
  • Ward and Murty (how could you forget one of our best players this season, Valleyman?) at least show that PP knows a good defender when he sees one, although I never shared the enthusiasm of many CL-ers for McEverley, who I thought was extraordinarily naive in his positioning on several ocassions. I'd say Youga, Moots and Semedo are all more accomplished full-backs, although I know that many disagree.

    The rest of PP's men have been dismal, especally Burton and Spring, the two permanent signings. But as they are third class, maybe they will suit us well in the third tier. And perhaps that's why we signed them as Parkinson must have known as well as the rest of us when he was confirmed as manager at the end of December that we were going down.

    But I tell you what - I'd rather trust Parky with our funds than our current sponsor with our shirts. Talk about the curse of Carbrini! They sponsor Luton and us - surely the biggest two disatser stories of the 2008-9 season. Do they sponsor anyone else? If so, they had better look out...

    Quiz question, following Luton's relegation to non-league football today : is there any other town in Britain with a major international airport but without a league football club?

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  • edited April 2009
    [cite]Posted By: DPFC[/cite]can someone tell me , given the finances and the apaaling long term injuries we've had to endure this seasion ie ZZ Fotune Racon Gray etc etc who we could have nave afforded tos sign was avaiable without going us out of business? sensible answers only please

    Exactly. it's very harsh to judge parky on his signings this year. no budget, little appeal to come to us and most of them loans.

    But some people just want to jump on the anti-parkinson bandwagon and criticise everything he does.
    [cite]Posted By: kakaka[/cite]If he is still in charge i will not be renewing my season ticket simple as that.

    i know people have reasons for not renewing like finances and family commitments etc, but if ever the club needed us in the last few years it's now.

    IMO, supporting a football team is not like being a customer. it's not about whether the club deserve our support, or whether us fans deserve better. It's about supporting a football club that we are part of. To be honest i think some of our fans need to get over this season, get over not liking the manager and get over being let down by the players, and support their club at a time when they need us most. We're not the first football club to go through a rough time but if the fans get behind the club then we have a better chance of getting back where we want to be. I'm not saying parky should be our manager next year, my point is get behind him if he is!

    Parkinson won't be here in 10 years but we will be. If we don't support them now, we're the ones who will suffer in the long run, not parkinson.
  • yes, what chance did he/we have. give the guy a break we are all hurting and now lets get behind the team next season and march onwards together.
  • yeah parkinson only arrived at the end of november and had nothing to do with these players b4 that.............. ffffffffs what planet are people on!!
  • [cite]Posted By: nigel w[/cite]

    Quiz question, following Luton's relegation to non-league football today : is there any other town in Britain with a major international airport but without a league football club?

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    Stanstead and Penzance :-)
  • unless we are taken over PP will start next season as manager.
  • We may not have cash for transfers next season (unless we cash in on our midfield) but with the likes of Ambrose and Weaver given the spanish archer they'res got to be room in the wages budget for some free transfers (RB, CBx2 LM and ST the priority)

    The board need to make a decision on Parky ASAP. They should either sack him, or offer him a longer term contract (preferably on worse terms than he is on now to reflect our reduced status)
  • I think that's a good call, Imnot (I don't mean Penzance and Stansted but PP's contractual terms). If he is going to stay, let's find out the average wage of a div three manager and offer him that. It must be considerably less than what he is currently on (which those in the know say is ''not huge'' - but nevertheless must reflect his status when he joined us as a premiership number two and would surely make him the hghest paid manger in tier three).

    For which, given his record, there is no justification at all.
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  • BBClaus, just wanted to say that was a great post from the heart mate. And one i agree with 100%
  • so three new managers inherit poor squads and have no money to improve things. Rodgers gets Watford to mid-table, Davies looks likely to save Forest and Parkinson .... enough said. The fact is we have a better squad in my opinion than either Forest or Watford. Parkinson was able to bring in a number of loanees and two permanant signings. Whilst Forest and Watford moved forward we moved backwards. By all means keep Parky if you want but I don't. He has had much more than a fair crack of the whip and he isn't up to it. I wouldn't trust him to turn off a tap.
  • ''I wouldn't trust him to turn off a tap. ''

    Don't worry, Large. I hear the board can't afford to pay the water rates and so if Parky is still here next season, Thames Water will have cut us off, anyway!
  • so lets examine (some of) the evidence:
    Loans...do me a favour, Murty is an old mate from Reading, you may see Ward as a success...but if you sign enough at least one might work....monkeys and typewriters and all that!
    Results.......do me another favour, he even got the gig based on NO wins at all, now we have a taste for 0-0 draws maybe we could have parked the bus in five or six earlier defeats, and not be in quite the mess we're in now.
    Actual signings...Burton/ Spring?....nuff said.
    Tactics, and matchday presence and effect, well we are adept at surrendering leads, but Parky does do a good impression of a very depressed man in interviews. Even on Saturday he said we would be better off if we had that team out in recent matches, yes, bleedin obvious, and suggests that the manager has no effect, but has to sit around and wait for players to turn up somehow to get the results.
    Parky does not have to be paid off, he can go in a year, lets get somebody in over his head, and he can like it or lump it. pay the new boss wages from the savings from Weaver, Toddy, Ambrose, Hollands wages if need be.....25 others at the club are being chopped, but we need the continuity of Parky to survive....what on earth is happening here? New division new start, the long road begins now.
  • It seems to me that we are playing some really good football at the moment. Given the instability of another relegation, adding to it further by sacking the manager just as he is getting it together, would not be a good idea.
  • Nigel, re: quiz question: Would Canterbury fit the bill.? A cathederal city with an airport known as Kent Interational. I believe there is also a cricket team in those parts too!
  • [cite]Posted By: Valley_floyd_red[/cite]It seems to me that we are playing some really good football at the moment. Given the instability of another relegation, adding to it further by sacking the manager just as he is getting it together, would not be a good idea.[/quote

    think some people are confusing 'good' with 'adequate' in my opinion.
  • [cite]Posted By: BBClaus[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: DPFC[/cite]can someone tell me , given the finances and the apaaling long term injuries we've had to endure this seasion ie ZZ Fotune Racon Gray etc etc who we could have nave afforded tos sign was avaiable without going us out of business? sensible answers only please

    Exactly. it's very harsh to judge parky on his signings this year. no budget, little appeal to come to us and most of them loans.

    But some people just want to jump on the anti-parkinson bandwagon and criticise everything he does.
    [cite]Posted By: kakaka[/cite]If he is still in charge i will not be renewing my season ticket simple as that.

    i know people have reasons for not renewing like finances and family commitments etc, but if ever the club needed us in the last few years it's now.

    IMO, supporting a football team is not like being a customer. it's not about whether the club deserve our support, or whether us fans deserve better. It's about supporting a football club that we are part of. To be honest i think some of our fans need to get over this season, get over not liking the manager and get over being let down by the players, and support their club at a time when they need us most. We're not the first football club to go through a rough time but if the fans get behind the club then we have a better chance of getting back where we want to be. I'm not saying parky should be our manager next year, my point is get behind him if he is!

    Parkinson won't be here in 10 years but we will be. If we don't support them now, we're the ones who will suffer in the long run, not parkinson.

    last year i borrowed the money for my season ticket, there is a reccession on and things are very tight financially so if parky is still to be rewarded for failing it wont be with my money, i will pay for games as and when i can afford to or want to. if he is not here at the begining i will find the funds for a season ticket.
  • [cite]Posted By: seth plum[/cite]now we have a taste for 0-0 draws maybe we could have parked the bus in five or six earlier defeats, and not be in quite the mess we're in now.

    last time we had a flavour for 0-0 draws curbs got us 3 back to back ones against newcastle(a) villa(h) liverpool(a) feb/mar 2006 during the glory years... still wasn't exciting enough for those brought up on brazil 1970
  • Not sure how I forgot Murty, apologies to Parky on that. An obviously very good signing (and one I hope will be back next year). So that is 3 out of 9 IMO that were worth the effort (and McEveley only just).

    As for saying the question is pointless because we will have no money next season, that is completely wrong. I don't expect us to pay transfer fees but every player bought in still has a 'cost' attached to them be it a signing on fee or a loan fee or just wages.

    As for the fact he had a limited 'pool' to choose from given where we were in the league when he took over, there is of course truth in that however not only do I think he could have done better but also I think is he was unable to bring in players any better than the ones we already have he should have saved the budget. If you go back to our best manager of recent times (Curbs) he didn't just go out willy nilly 'collecting' players but ONLY bought people in when he genuinly felt they would imrprove the existing squad (granted not every one was a success but it was a damn site more than 3 out of 9!).

    Finally, I will be getting a season ticket next year, Parky or no Parky.
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