[cite]Posted By: Off_it[/cite]Am liking that idea Henry. You see what happens when you stop being negative and get your thinking cap on?!
You should go into business old son - I'm sure people would pay good money to tap into ideas and advice like that.
;o)
Not negative, just looking at what barriers to overcome.
As it happens I train managers on how to encourage creative thinking and innovation and so avoid premature evaluation (always gets a laugh from the ladies in the group)
As someone who suffers from Premature Evaluation, I can assure you its no laughing matter. But on the positive side I've never had a creative thought or innovation in my life.
To flesh out my idea above...I like the idea of a Supporters Trust (ST) - but to buy the training ground. If i get the numbers right the directors are proposing to buy this and the two properties on Lansdown Mews for ca £1.3, I think from memory (ie I haven't fact checked this) the two properties are roughly worth £250K combined. To round it down let's say the ST buys the training ground only for £1m.
If 1,000 people stump up £1k each, that gives the club the £1m they need. This is then leased back to the club at market rates and the bulk of the profits (minus tax etc and any improvements undertaken etc) is paid as a dividend with a component of the profits funding Charlton in the community/football in the community, or something similar. A board of directors could be formed to oversee the admin of the ST.
[cite]Posted By: Henry Irving[/cite]
As it happens I train managers on how to encourage creative thinking and innovation and so avoid premature evaluation (always gets a laugh from the ladies in the group)
For some reason that episode of The Office where Brent does some "motivational speaking" springs to mind.
"I've been Henry Irving ..... and you've been The Best" *cue Tina Turner* !!!
[cite]Posted By: Henry Irving[/cite]
As it happens I train managers on how to encourage creative thinking and innovation and so avoid premature evaluation (always gets a laugh from the ladies in the group)
For some reason that episode of The Office where Brent does some "motivational speaking" springs to mind.
"I've been Henry Irving ..... and you've been The Best" *cue Tina Turner* !!!
That episode was painful close to some courses I've delivered or seen delivered. Never allowed a manager/owner to train with his team.
[cite]Posted By: BlackForestReds[/cite]Obviously lots of takers for your services at those rates Ben...which is why you spend so much time here.
Oh, get you BFR.
Have to spend time writing the courses/reports as well you know.
I am worried about maintainance and management fees.
I can just picture Sunday morning with a 1000 lawnmowers. It could get awfully messy.
Would we have to take our own cuttings to the dump. Or is that part of VIP 3 environmental recycling program.
What is scary though if you could get 1000 Charlton fans to cough up £1000 you have your £1million. If only.
I still dont know how to vote with my shareholding. I know it wont make a tinkers cuss but I would be happy to vote on the basis of a Charlton Life concensus.
Given I raised it on an earlier thread, I would be in favour.
Firstly If I remember, the original VIP scheme raised over £1M during a recession, so lets not be put off by the current financial crisis.
Secondly, the original VIP scheme had discounts to fit all pockets, so it wasn't just for the cash rich.
I think any plan should be on the basis of a return commensurate/proportionate to the individual level of investment. Like the original plan it should be structured around each fans affordable spend so as to be as inclusive a process as possible.
Some of the suggestions by Maglor and others are excellent. Look at the game on Saturday. Whilst I accept that "one swallow does not a summer make", our midfield looked real quality.
A plan that may tip the club over into keeping players like ZZ, Racon, Baliey and Shelvey is really important.
In addition to that I think this will send a really positive message to any potential investor, namely that the club and fans remain, despite adversity united and determined to bounce back.
Great suggestions guys. I am infavor of most which will bring new funds into the club - according to each person's means - which will enable us to field a squad (ideally including the current midfield) which will enable us to challenge for promotion.
Thanks for pointing that out. Wouldn't believe I have an A level in maths.
2000 people willing to pay £500 or more to be part of the Valley Pitch Owners club.
Doable I think.
Now just need to sell it to the board.
2,000 PEOPLE at £500 would do the job but it might be worth considering dividing the pitch into more LOTS. For example 20,000 at £50 or 10,000 at £100.
In the present climate £500 might be a daunting sum but people may feel able to chip in £50 or £100. It would also enable people to buy bits of pitch for the kids who will be the fans of the future.
Before Chelsea became Chelski they had the CHELSEA PITCH OWNERS it was to raise working capital. About 1994 i think.
*Go for the big shilling aim for 5/6 million. *People can club together and buy a lot between them as they do when they sponcer a players kit. *Or someone can buy one lot on there own. * Contact players that have been made by the club ask them to get their hefty cheque books out---Parker--Konch--Benty etc etc. * Front Kelvin Macenzie get him to or his rag to put the dosh where his big gob is. * Tell the Evening Gooner your suposed to be a LONDON paper either front some money or never some back. *Put the whole tale of this down turn into a book and put the money into the pot * The money goes into a trust and TRUSTIES to be voted on by ALL who put into the pot 1 vote each Mr Murry not 2 million votes for you and 800 for me !
It worked for Chelsea and it can work for us ------- dont aim to small.
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As someone who suffers from Premature Evaluation, I can assure you its no laughing matter. But on the positive side I've never had a creative thought or innovation in my life.
£800 and I'm yours for a day.
Ooooh, get you ;-)
If 1,000 people stump up £1k each, that gives the club the £1m they need. This is then leased back to the club at market rates and the bulk of the profits (minus tax etc and any improvements undertaken etc) is paid as a dividend with a component of the profits funding Charlton in the community/football in the community, or something similar. A board of directors could be formed to oversee the admin of the ST.
I need the work, mate.
For some reason that episode of The Office where Brent does some "motivational speaking" springs to mind.
"I've been Henry Irving ..... and you've been The Best" *cue Tina Turner* !!!
That episode was painful close to some courses I've delivered or seen delivered. Never allowed a manager/owner to train with his team.
Oh, get you BFR.
Have to spend time writing the courses/reports as well you know.
I think you mean 2,000 lots at £500 if your aim is to raise £1 million.
Alternatively you could mean 20,000 at £50.
20,000 at £500 would be £10,000,000
I can just picture Sunday morning with a 1000 lawnmowers. It could get awfully messy.
Would we have to take our own cuttings to the dump. Or is that part of VIP 3 environmental recycling program.
What is scary though if you could get 1000 Charlton fans to cough up £1000 you have your £1million. If only.
I still dont know how to vote with my shareholding. I know it wont make a tinkers cuss but I would be happy to vote on the basis of a Charlton Life concensus.
That's why you are an accountant and I'm not.
Thanks for pointing that out. Wouldn't believe I have an A level in maths.
2000 people willing to pay £500 or more to be part of the Valley Pitch Owners club.
Doable I think.
Now just need to sell it to the board.
Firstly If I remember, the original VIP scheme raised over £1M during a recession, so lets not be put off by the current financial crisis.
Secondly, the original VIP scheme had discounts to fit all pockets, so it wasn't just for the cash rich.
I think any plan should be on the basis of a return commensurate/proportionate to the individual level of investment. Like the original plan it should be structured around each fans affordable spend so as to be as inclusive a process as possible.
Some of the suggestions by Maglor and others are excellent. Look at the game on Saturday. Whilst I accept that "one swallow does not a summer make", our midfield looked real quality.
A plan that may tip the club over into keeping players like ZZ, Racon, Baliey and Shelvey is really important.
In addition to that I think this will send a really positive message to any potential investor, namely that the club and fans remain, despite adversity united and determined to bounce back.
2,000 PEOPLE at £500 would do the job but it might be worth considering dividing the pitch into more LOTS. For example 20,000 at £50 or 10,000 at £100.
In the present climate £500 might be a daunting sum but people may feel able to chip in £50 or £100. It would also enable people to buy bits of pitch for the kids who will be the fans of the future.
A modern day Target 10,000 perhaps?
The thing is, you just know he was sitting there with his calculator for about 5 minutes trying to work it out before he posted!
Stick to the day job fella.
*Go for the big shilling aim for 5/6 million.
*People can club together and buy a lot between them as they do when they sponcer a players kit.
*Or someone can buy one lot on there own.
* Contact players that have been made by the club ask them to get their hefty cheque books out---Parker--Konch--Benty etc etc.
* Front Kelvin Macenzie get him to or his rag to put the dosh where his big gob is.
* Tell the Evening Gooner your suposed to be a LONDON paper either front some money or never some back.
*Put the whole tale of this down turn into a book and put the money into the pot
* The money goes into a trust and TRUSTIES to be voted on by ALL who put into the pot 1 vote each Mr Murry not 2 million votes for you and 800 for me !
It worked for Chelsea and it can work for us ------- dont aim to small.
Maybe someone should raise it with the club.