I know it's been mooted on other threads and that times are tough, but if the club were to launch a VIP 2 scheme who would be interested and what sort of return would you want?
£1,500 for a 10 year ticket in the North or a 5 year ticket in the West maybe?
Might it be a goer? Something maybe for the fans forum to raise with the board and do some sort of feasibility study and or proper opinion poll maybe?
I just feel like we, the fans, need to start putting some serious effort in to help out here before it's too late.
Stumping up for next years seaso is one thing, but can we do more?
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I would be happy to contribute funds to keep the likes of ZZ, Shelvey, Racon ay the club.
I wonder if any one would be interested in part funding ZZ new 3 year contract say 1000 fans at £1000 each with a 50% share of the sale in 1 or 2 years?
Sadly I don't think ZZ would stay to play in Div 3.
And I don't think £1m would be enough for a three year contract, might cover one.
As for 50% of a sell on he's 28 or 29 so not likely to be a huge fee.
Plus there are rules about third party ownership, ask West Ham how to avoid them : - )
I think VIP worked as the money was for the Valley, rather than players. With players you then get arguements over which to keep and people complaining if their favourite is sold or a player they don't like kept.
Also we got the Supporters' Director out of VIP.
As I remember it was £1250 for a 10 year season ticket but that was early 90s and ST were a lot cheaper. So it would need to be a lot more than that.
The downside of long term STs is that you bring all your income forward and spend it now but leave yourself short for the next 5 or 10 years.
Conversely if the price is pitched right there is certainty of income and IF we are lucky enough to return to the Championship or, whisper it softly the Prem, then TV money males ST income relatively insignificant.
We need working capital now.
Even if he wanted to stay could we afford his wages/signing on fee? If the WP becomes a problem he'd move abroad.
Who knows until you ask them...
Even so assuming he's on £10k a week that means £520K a year plus a signing on fee. Just to pay his wages you'd need 1000 paying £500 each.
Anyway according to Parky we have Jonjo to play in his position.
What did you think Gordon Brown and the Chinese Premier spent all their time discussing during G20 : - )
Surely that's the type of thing the Fans Forum should be gettimg involved with?
As Len says, the club needs working capital now. We can all pick holes in ideas from afar - that's easy. Do you want to try and help make a difference - that's the harder part.
Although there is a credit crunch on, there are still some people out there who could afford one. The club should consider it.
I may be way off in my thinking but a VIP 2 deal would possibly be a commitment that future investors would not wish to inherit and in that sense the current Directors who are seeking new investors dont want to muddy the waters regarding future income streams.
Without worrying about whether ZZ would stay or not the question is would you put in money to the club? I accept that to part with cash you would want to understand what you were getting for your money. Assuming you were happy with the clubs assurances as to what the money would be spent on would you put in money to the club to help maintain a quality squad in league one?
SO we just need to win a world cup, then we can do as we please???
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Similar to VIP but as Maglor says would have to be clear on what we get for the money. Not players as that is temporary and divisive but an element of control and influence.
However I like the idea of a Supporters' Trust being formed that could buy say the training ground and then lease it back to the club. The profit could then be split between the individual Trustees (giving a return on investment) with some being invested back into the club in some way.
Thats were im at can only do one season at a time
The training ground is a good idea. Like that.
That I would be happy to be part of financing but not players.
Used a lot by the community scheme etc.
OK the Valley might be too expensive but how about the pitch?
Here's the idea
Valley Investment Pitch
We aim to raise £1m for the club and in doing so protect one of its greatest assets, The Valley pitch.
20,000 £500 lots.
People or companies can buy as many as they wish.
Each person will receive a certificate and a map showing their square of the picture. Penalty spots and Centre circle cost extra.
Ownership of the pitch will be retained by the owners and so protect the pitch and indirectly the whole ground from inappropriate development.
You should go into business old son - I'm sure people would pay good money to tap into ideas and advice like that.
;o)
Not negative, just looking at what barriers to overcome.
As it happens I train managers on how to encourage creative thinking and innovation and so avoid premature evaluation (always gets a laugh from the ladies in the group)