Anyone hear this bloke on the way back from the game?
Just went on about the free ST offer and that after he had paid Pardew announced that he had to sell players, claimed he had been ripped off and that the club should go into admin.
We dont need people like you 'Dan'. So do us all a favour and put your ST money into Sky sports next year you can watch ManU etc, that should make you happy. I've been here before (many years ago) with Charlton, we go down we come back up, get over it, it happens.
Administration???? Idiot!!
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Idiot yeah, in his confused logic he may see this as an opportunity to get rid of the Board who arguably got us in this mess...............
Even with the wage cuts we could have gone up last year, just shocking management decisions kept us down.
the question needs answering
my opinion would be to cause as much havoc as possible (legally of course)
we need to show them that the things they have done can never be repeated we need to show them that Parky (although a NICE ENOUGH BLOKE fed up saying that but he is) was the wrong choice and that they never learnt from Reed.
We need to show them that we wont accept being lied to
and that it takes years to build up trust and only 2 seasons to fecking destroy it.
they need us to trust them again because until then this club will die and that is a Fact
so folks thinking hats on what would you like to see us as fans do,
Protest, Chant , not go up to the seats during a game be outside the training ground and the ground i have no idea but i am willing to participate
i don't know about you Ohhaah, but I didn't even manage to get off me seat to celebrate when we scored. I'm sure I wasn't the only one that felt that flat?
the question needs answering
my opinion would be to cause as much havoc as possible (legally of course)
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Havoc? Are you serious?
These people are Charlton fans like us and every brilliant/crazy/inept decision they have made has been made with the clubs best interest at heart.
Let them know we are unhappy, fine, although I suspect they are in no doubt about the general mood and are probably cacking themselves about how many season tickets they are going to sell for next season.
Beware though, if they start to ask themselves if it is all worth the hassle, and walk, we are well and truly f*cked.
the reason the mistakes you talk about have come about are because as fans we have acknowledged the great work they have done and where we would be without the support they have shown and Yes they are fans but dont kid yourselves that they are rich enough to piss their money up the wall, so they were also looking for financial gain from their investment, Fans yes i totally agree and what Murray and others have done was nothing short of miraculous.
but they also need to know that the fans will not tolerate the shambolic decision making of the last 3 seasons.
We have learnt nothing from the past 3 years
blindly follwing blind decisions is just as dangerous as asking for answers and change
I don't understand what you are hoping to achieve by such actions, other than just getting rid of your own frustrations at what has happened to us over the last 3 years.
i am all for towing the line and taking the rough with the smooth BUT the board need to know that the decline at our club can not continue, and the longer we remain the silent majority then there is no pressure upon them to get these vitally important decisions right.
the in ability to place a man to be in charge of our football team that can do the required job must make even the staunchist board supporter question the ability of those who are making those choices and how else do people suppose that those that are no longer happy to tow the silent line do it.
We wont agree on these points and that is all well and good and i am not a johnny come lately I am entering back into the division from which i first saw them play in and that does not sit well with me and i wont not buy a season ticket and i wont not still offer the full vocal support that is not booing or slaging off during the match, i dont think the time is now for anyone to start asking how,why,what and when these things will be put right but we are down we all know that, when it is mathematically possible is when these questions should be asked and asked in what ever manor people choose.
i am all for towing the line and taking the rough with the smooth BUT the board need to know that the decline at our club can not continue, and the longer we remain the silent majority then there is no pressure upon them to get these vitally important decisions right.
the in ability to place a man to be in charge of our football team that can do the required job must make even the staunchist board supporter question the ability of those who are making those choices and how else do people suppose that those that are no longer happy to tow the silent line do it.
We wont agree on these points and that is all well and good and i am not a johnny come lately I am entering back into the division from which i first saw them play in and that does not sit well with me and i wont not buy a season ticket and i wont not still offer the full vocal support that is not booing or slaging off during the match, i dont think the time is now for anyone to start asking how,why,what and when these things will be put right but we are down we all know that, when it is mathematically possible is when these questions should be asked and asked in what ever manor people choose.[/quote]
I think you're right to ask the questions NLA.
But when you start mentioning causing havoc or doing things that are just above illegal you can count me out.
What do I suggest? God, knows, I guess I'm ducking the question.
But I'm sure that before long the chants of "Parky out" will probably become deafening and the board will get the message anyway.
As for a new manager, are we any better qualified to make a choice than they are?
They pays the money, it's their shout.
The real problem is that Curbs over-achieved so spectacularly, over so many years, that it was bound to fall apart once he left. Expectations of board & supporters alike were set far too high & money was thrown at new players in the hope that we could survive in the Premiership. Sadly, we are still feeling the implications of the financial meltdown that then occured when we inevitably got relegated. Our only hope now is to go down to Division 1 & rebuild again from the bottom up. Reduced expectations from everybody will help in this rebuilding exercise.
Of course mistakes have been made, but we are judging most of these with the benefit of hindsight. The board KNOW how we, as fans, feel. They are all supporters and they will feel it even worse, because they have individually lost millions of pounds. I just don't think that, in the unique circumstances we have at Charlton, protesting to the board will have any positive impact whatsoever. Just my opinion, of course.
But protesting is not going to bring that about.
Only money is going to do it.
We could try robbing a bank, I suppose. But these days, even that probably wouldn't work !
Pete
Reed and Parky have never been well respected Managers 2nds yes maybe but 1st team managers no never. Dowie please what right had that man earned to manage a stable Prem club the decision to employ him without going ober old ground is the biggest decision that needs answers too.
Pardew i will give you i think had earned the right to be given the reigns after his monumental over achievement before westham let him go and TBH i really wanted to work out i thought tht the last 2 mgrs had been wiped away when we employed him.
Parky (now i have said he will have my full support until we are mathmatically down and he does and will have), But you can not tell me that the decision to install a man who is tarnished with Pardews brush rightly or wrongly, was the right footballing decision, the inability to win a game during his caretaker role which went on atleast 5 games too long ala Les Reed (we learnt nothing from that period of our chairman and clubs history).
I know what i am suggesting is unpopular and it is no more unpopular with my on Phsycy than anyone elses but the question remains how long how many more leagues until we get changes and answers to how these decisions repeated themselves.
i know they are fans i know it is their money but that can not be the sole answer to the question
If this is the route we are going to have to follow, then we need to be united as a club through the (many) trials & tribulations still to come. I can only see protests leading to divisions, leading to further upheaval. I just don't think that this is what is needed at the present time.
This time we'll start our tier 3 campaign with Sam, Burton and Dickson instead of Powell, Hales and Flanagan! Oh, gawd!
To be honest watching division 3 football was a pleasure in those days, we had a good little team.
Maybe I've blotted out the bad bits.