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A message for Richard Murray and the directors.

Firstly i want to thank you all so much for the wonderfull work you did in getting us back to the Valley and building the stadium up and your excelent work in the community making us one of the top clubs in the land for work in the local community. Right thats the nice bits done.
Now i would very much love for you to come out and tell us what the hell you have done to this club since Curbs left us. You will never be able to tell me that hiring Dowie was not to get one over Simon Jordan. Was he really the best man?? we were a top 10 premiership club with steady books and a playing staff to match.
Surely there must have been other safer options than someone who had just been relegated, a safe pair of hands such as George Graham, Grame Souness even Joe Kinnear. Dowie was a stunt and boy how have you looked stupid since then. How could you justify signing the cheques for the likes of Djimi, Jimmy and Diarawa, these were and never would be 'Charlton Signings'.
Dowie proved to be the disaster we all knew he would be right from the start with the twit breaking into the press conference, we thought maybe mr charlton Les would steady the ship but we all knew that as a coach is there no better man out there but to step up to a premiere league manager was a step to far and i hope you did not burn your bridges with a guy i would happily see working at the valley again.
Pards came to late, at the time like most of us we thought he was a great signing and would get us back at the first attempt but once again questions had to be raised about our transfer policy. there were players availble in the likes of Kevin Philips, Slyvan Ebanks Blake, but you chose to once again sign huge cheques for the likes of Varney, Macleod that have proven to be money down the drain.
Pards went months to late and when we all could see that a clean sweep was needed this was not done, you chose to stick with Parkinson. I have no ill feelings towards Parky and i wish him very well for might come but i and as i hope many others will agree never thought we would see the day where were signing such players as Deon Burton and suposed to be 'excited' about this.
So here we are now, 12 points and not a chance in hell of getting out of the bottom. We all know just how much you all put into the team and if you were all to withdraw we would be destined for adminstration. I personal feel that a change is needed at the top i personally would like to see you step down and make way for a more out going and forward thinking chairman and Michael Grade would be my choice.
I would call for you now to send back all the loaness, put every player up for sale who is not commited for what will be an even bigger battle next season in league one, and insist that parky only plays our youngsters give them 10 games to get used to the hustle and bustle of league football. I would rather see us lose all the remaing games of the season with Charlton players than hired help and has beens.
In hindsight i feel were you the real reason we did so well? no is the answer i come up with the answer that it was Alan, and since he has gone i feel we have been found out big time, that we really were a one man team and just surving thanks to his football nouse, curbs would never have signed the guff we have seen over the last 3 years.
I am angry and bitterly dissapointed it has come to this i would right now be very happy if you all buggerd off taking your money put us in adminstration take 10 points now and start to rebuild this once great club yet again.
Please do what you think is best for this great club of Ours not yours and take a real hard look at yourselfs and think what maybe you could have done differently to have not got us in some of the darkest times since the the late 70's and early 80's that club has suferd, i hope that once again like we have done we will be reborn and come back an even better and stronger team with everyone from the Chairman to the programme sellers to me in the east stand being proud once again to say im an Addick!!!

Yours,

Adam the Addick

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  • adam.......I feel your pain but hindsight is a wonderful thing.
  • [cite]Posted By: ShootersHillGuru[/cite]hindsight is a wonderful thing.

    No it aint mate, doing deals to get one over your rival is bad bussiness, signing cheques for duff players is bad business... It makes us look like a right shambles..
  • sorry Adam, did not enjoy reading one single bit of that, and it falls down on so many levels.

    The bottom line is had Nicky Bailey not given that penalty away, you would not have posted that.
  • Truth is adam I am confident that getting Dowie was not done for that reason and to suggest it was is just plain crazy. We all know that Dowie talks a good game and the board have already said he excelled at interview. The fact that it turned out to be a mistake is very much hindsight.
  • not true mate, this has been going on for to long now, a few home truths had to come out. i know it wouldnt be liked by all but i had to get it off my chest, a point last night even wouldnt have been enough, i have been resigned to ur fate for sometime now but last night was the straw breaking the camels back.
  • [cite]Posted By: ShootersHillGuru[/cite]The fact that it turned out to be a mistake is very much hindsight.

    no probs with that mate at all, maybe its just me but i will never belive that dowie was the best man! it was to get one over on the tango one, fact.
  • [cite]Posted By: adamtheaddick[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: ShootersHillGuru[/cite]hindsight is a wonderful thing.

    No it aint mate, doing deals to get one over your rival is bad bussiness, signing cheques for duff players is bad business... It makes us look like a right shambles..

    There is no evidence that we signed Dowie to put one over on Palace. Simply he was the best candidate at the time and had left Palace.

    Yep we signed some duff players (and some good ones like Reid) but given our lack of finances we have to take punts on players out of contract elsewhere and those taking the leap up a division or two. Sometimes like Darren Bent and Nicky Bailey those punts come off, occasionally they don't. In any case player recruitment is down to the managers/coaches, not the board.
  • [cite]Posted By: adamtheaddick[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: ShootersHillGuru[/cite]The fact that it turned out to be a mistake is very much hindsight.

    no probs with that mate at all, maybe its just me but i will never belive that dowie was the best man! it was to get one over on the tango one, fact.

    No it isn't "fact".
  • Murray & Co are hurting as much as us. Do you think they pumped millions in to say lets Fu(k this up?
    I don't and I'm sure they are asking where to go next like many of us!
  • [cite]Posted By: BlackForestReds[/cite]n any case player recruitment is down to the managers/coaches, not the board.

    Who signs the cheques?
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  • edited March 2009
    You haven't asked the board if they have stopped beating their wives/girlfriend.

    As AFKA said, just wrong on so many levels.

    If and when, and I hope it is a long way off, Richard Murray leaves Charlton it will be a sad day.
  • [cite]Posted By: adamtheaddick[/cite]not true mate, this has been going on for to long now, a few home truths had to come out.

    Well thank god, because no one has ever mentioned before that Dowie was a bad decision.

    Dowie was 2006, it is now 2009. Three bloody years and we are still going over the same old ground.

    And why is it your club and not theirs ? Some of the directors you aim at have been home and away fans for other 30 years, who travel the length of the country following the club (which virtually all of 'us' don't do), and in the process have collective pumped in something like £50m which i doubt they will ever see a penny of back.

    Ranting is exactly that, and achieves nothing. And when you support it with hindsight suggestions like George Graham (who hasn't been fit enough to run a football team in 10 years) and Joe Kinnear (who you probably forgot existed until a few months ago), then all it appears is ill-founded, unsupportive, hindsight naivety.
  • [cite]Posted By: BlackForestReds[/cite]No it isn't "fact".

    so offering him out for a fight when we sent them down does not suggest bad blood?
  • Adam - i feel your pain and anger also but it is hindsight. Yes Traore was a duff signing, but Hasselbaink had a great pedigree and had just had a decent season with Boro when we signed him. He then didn't do too badly at Cardiff after leaving us. Diawara is a virtual ever present for a side who this year played champions league football and are currently 4th in France.
    Kevin Phillips will get you goals.........if you give him service. Would he have scored goals in our side?
    Ebanks-blake went to Wolves the same week we signed Andy gray for virtually the same money. At the time Gray was banging the goals in. Hindsight tells you we signed the wrong player, but it could've been different.
  • [cite]Posted By: adamtheaddick[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: BlackForestReds[/cite]No it isn't "fact".

    so offering him out for a fight when we sent them down does not suggest bad blood?

    So therefore it is "fact" that Dowie was signed purely to put one over on SJ, which is your contention.
  • they should have given dowie more of a chance we could be second bottom of the championship if he had stayed........ 12 games was not enough to show what he could/ couldn't do
  • Careful adam dont go there mate its not worth it. Thats why i have havnt posted on here over the last couple of weeks and this will be my last post on here. I will still read this site as I am interested in all views until it comes 'sterile'.
  • There is no question that things have gone wrong but not for the reasons you suggest adam.
  • [cite]Posted By: oohaahmortimer[/cite]they should have given dowie more of a chance we could be second bottom of the championship if he had stayed........ 12 games was not enough to show what he could/ couldn't do


    I probably stand alone on this, but although he made some terrible signings (Traore and Faye being 2 of them), i actually don't think we'd be in this position if we'd kept Dowie as manager. His records for Coventry and QPR in this league weren't that bad, he just upsets too many people along the way.
  • Christ peeps, i fear for us now i really do.. Can no one see what a bloody mess were in? are we all still in the 'Oh well Nevermind' league of thinking, Things need to be done now and done quick if we dont want to end up like luton. We have to start being a modern football club, being 'good old charlton' wheres that got us? League One..
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  • I'm not going to slate you Adam, agree with a lot of what you say. Murray's judgement has been poor and he's been too quick to blame people that he employed for making decisions that he should have had oversight of. The way many people work so hard to avoid apportioning any blame to him, and try and shift it onto others, is a bit weak. Reminds me of the bloke that used to sit next to me who. when we were doing badly used to leap up and launch a stream of abuse at BF Merv. Too effing defensive Day. That's rubbish Day. Get him off Day you c**t!!

    I'm getting off topic - I think Murray would be happy to get out but getting a buyer for our debt ridden and failing club is another thing. Unless you can come up with a few mill you've got to just hope someone, who has Murray's good intentions, does
  • edited March 2009
    [cite]Posted By: adamtheaddick[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: BlackForestReds[/cite]No it isn't "fact".

    so offering him out for a fight when we sent them down does not suggest bad blood?

    Not even what happened. We have all heard the story a hundred times but Murray didn't offer out Jordan in the version I heard.
    [cite]Posted By: Chris_from_Sidcup[/cite]
    Ebanks-blake went to Wolves the same week we signed Andy gray for virtually the same money. At the time Gray was banging the goals in. Hindsight tells you we signed the wrong player, but it could've been different.

    And the SEB who was up on GBH charges at the time. Should we have risked buying a player with that sort of charecter who could have been sent down.

    Oh, but with hindsight.....
    [cite]Posted By: AFKABartram[/cite]

    And why is it your club and not theirs ? Some of the directors you aim at have been home and away fans for other 30 years, who travel the length of the country following the club (which virtually all of 'us' don't do), and in the process have collective pumped in something like £50m

    so true. don't confuse honest errors with a lack of support. £45m is a fair wedge or anyone's money.
  • Decisions need to be made certainly and promotion next season is not going to be easy but whatever those decisions are I believe they will be made with the best interests of CAFC at heart. We just all hope that our luck changes because I believe that since Curbishley left whatever could go wrong has gone wrong.
  • [cite]Posted By: adamtheaddick[/cite]Christ peeps, i fear for us now i really do.. Can no one see what a bloody mess were in? .

    Of course we can, but bringing up again what a shit appointment Dowie was is hardly going to help the process, nor is attempting to drive a wedge between the people that effectively hold the cards to our survival.

    The people that everyone was worshipping just a few years ago and now can't wait to put the boot into. The people that have somehow managed to keep us out of administration unlike virtually every other club that has gone through what we have. The people that with no overdraft facilty i'm sure are going to have to dig into their pockets further to keep us afloat.

    Moaning achieves little other than division. No one is saying things should be accepted, or that people should be unduly positive. But sounding off achieves nothing. S

    uggest ideas, a way forward, things that realistically get us pointing in the right direction again.
  • Look, its how i felt and have felt since curbs left i have said for many months that we could be in real trouble, i wanted to get it off my chest, and having this site has helped.I hope its what it was built for to say things that we feel. We all have our own views and agendas, i just want us not to be 'Doomed' charlton any more as seems to be our new name in the media. This site is called an independant charlton supporters site, i have and will always be an addick from my first game against liverpool at selhurst to last night im a charlton supporter always will be always will. I dont want anyone to get the arse with what i wrote it was my views and i wanted to get it of my chest, if we cant even have open debates on here then christ were in even mpre trouble..
  • Michael Grade? Would he even want to be chairman? What could he offer that Murray can't? How do you know he'd be any better?
  • No one is suggesting things aren't a "bloody mess", but it's the reasons you cite which the bulk of people posting on this thread disagree with.
  • edited March 2009
    [cite]Posted By: adamtheaddick[/cite]Christ peeps, i fear for us now i really do.. Can no one see what a bloody mess were in? are we all still in the 'Oh well Nevermind' league of thinking, Things need to be done now and done quick if we dont want to end up like luton. We have to start being a modern football club, being 'good old charlton' wheres that got us? League One..

    Who said "nevermind"

    Who said "we're not in a mess"

    No one. Why do you have to make up something to justify what you are saying. Maybe because it is such a weak arguement in the first place.

    Yes, things need to be done but I don't see much constructive in your rant. Just re-hashing of old, old complaints and nonsensical nonsense about loan players (strange how it is all their fault again. no one complained about them after the Plymouth win or the two away draws but we lose and it's the evil loan players again)
  • [cite]Posted By: AFKABartram[/cite]uggest ideas, a way forward, things that realistically get us pointing in the right direction again.
    [cite]Posted By: adamtheaddick[/cite]I would call for you now to send back all the loaness, put every player up for sale who is not commited for what will be an even bigger battle next season in league one, and insist that parky only plays our youngsters give them 10 games to get used to the hustle and bustle of league football. I would rather see us lose all the remaing games of the season with Charlton players than hired help and has beens.
  • [cite]Posted By: adamtheaddick[/cite] if we cant even have open debates on here then christ were in even mpre trouble..

    Sorry but you can't have it both ways. You want an open debate well that means you say something and other people might disagree and say why.

    No one said you couldn't say it. Admin haven't deleted or sunk it. People have just disagreed.

    What you seem to mean by open debate is I can say what I like and no one is allowed to disagree or pull my weak argument apart
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