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Matt Holland for player/manager?

I have only heard positive things about Matt Holland, the person.
That he has great personal character.
That he is a true professional.
That he is an intelligent fellow.

If the board do not want to pay for another manager (until Parky's contract runs out, presumably at the end of the season), why not turn the reigns over Holland as a player/manager?

I am making the suggestion, but offering it as a question.

I don't see how things could possibly get any worse. And perhaps he could make some changes and provide some inspiration as a manager that his legs now have trouble doing as a player?

It probably wouldn't cost much, if any more money.
He certainly knows the squad.
He must have some ideas that he would implemented.

Given the current situation, financial and otherwise, is this something that should be considered?

I suppose if we want to continue to look within, Steve Gritt is another that could do the job. But he appears content where he is directing the academy.

An FA Cup loss to Sheffield United, and a home loss to Palarse, I cannot see how the directors could maintain any credibility keeping Parky on beyond the AGM.
It could be argued that credibility is at a low point now, particularly since Parky's permanent appoint was to be based "on results."
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  • I think that is a great shout.
    He's very well respected in the game and does seem like a very intelligent person.

    As much as I love kinsella and Powell, I think Holland has that bit of authority about him.
  • They need to try something and that's as good of an idea that I have heard lately.
  • Agreed - I think Matty will make a good manager one day. As we can't afford a trusted manager - why not bomb Parkinson out and try Matty

    HE CANNOT DO ANY WORSE
  • The poor lad needs a better start at managing then steering this sinking ship.
  • There have been far worse suggestions.......but.......

    My concern is that it is another appointment from within. I think most people accept that a complete clean slate is the way forward.

    We also hear rumours of dressing room splits and bust ups at the training ground. If, and I accept that is a very big if, there is a semblence of truth in any of these rumours, Holland is likely to be sitting on one side of the fence. I can't imagine him playing peacemaker or not getting involved. If he is sitting on one side of the fence there is a chance he has lost a faction in the dressing room before he even starts.

    Wasn't it him that was interviewed before the infamous Les Reed Middlesborough away game?

    "So Matt, are you going up to the Riverside to get a result for the new boss?" "No,we are going to the Riverside to get a result for us".

    Having said all of the above, I just can't see captain cleanshorts as our manager. Would you follow him over the top?.

    All of this is redundant anyway. The board won't out Pardkinson, and we will be having this same debate when we are treading water next season in division 3 under Super Phil's expert leadership.
  • [cite]Posted By: Clem_Snide[/cite]There have been far worse suggestions.......but.......

    My concern is that it is another appointment from within. I think most people accept that a complete clean slate is the way forward.


    My suggestion/question is working under the assumption that the board will
    not spend the money necessary to sack Parkinson and bring in a new manager from
    the outside, and potentially a new backroom staff, during the duration of this
    season.

    So, if the only potential changes are from within ...
  • We're doomed................;-)
  • I mooted this idea before pardew was sacked, still think it would be a good one. I mean why not, Parky is s#*te
  • Matt Holland for player/manager?

    Not for CAFC I hope. Nothing against the lad personally but he was captain during some of our worst, uninspired performances over the past few seasons.
    Just because he is usually the only player who looks like he cares after the final whistle and comes to applaud each stand is not enough for me.
    Kinsella, although he is involved and tainted by both the last two managers, would inspire me more.
  • I don't think he would want to do it, we would be better off with Gritt or Peacock until the summer short stay experienced managers - who might not actually mind doing and have the support of us.
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  • Not for me, love Matty but this group has been crying out for outside, not inside influence, and its getting more starkingly obvious as every week goes by.
  • I think Matt will make a manager one day. I can't think he'd be the No 1 choice though if Parky jumped/was pushed. I'd have thought he'd be behind Kinsella and then maybe Peacock.
  • If I knew how to do a linky thing, I'd show you that I foresaw this one in the 'where will be in a year's time?' predictions... you might not like the rest of it much, though...sorry.
  • give over.when has charlton employing a player/managers ever worked?
  • I thought that in order to be a manager you were required to have passed all the coaching badges first? I doubt whether Matty has got them all yet.
    I think he's a decent fella, but not managerial material, not yet anyway.
  • And what would Matt Holland do with the shower of shit we have down there that pardew, Parky, couldnt do?

    He wouldnt touch it with a barge pole for the sake of his future managerial ambitions.

    Dont mean to look at negatives and I'm sure some people get positives thinking up this stuff but it dont matter whos in charge (and it is Parky like it or lump it) we need 8 new players to stay up this year and the club cant afford it.
  • edited January 2009
    Disagree: We need a goalscorer, a decent left back and cover at centre Half. IMO, Weaver, Moo2,Hudson, Fortune, Bailey, Sam, Shelvey, Racon, ZZ,Semedo, Ambrose, Gray are all top half championship players, some could, and have, held their own in the Premiership. Notice the common denominator with all these players? They are all ours!
    We need to get rid of all the loanees and play our own senior players along with some of our youngsters such as Wright and Shelvey.
    Playing a team of Charlton players would go a long way to getting the fans back on board.
    Pards and Pardky just don't get it, and neither unfortunately do the board
  • [cite]Posted By: queensland_addick[/cite]Disagree: We need a goalscorer, a decent left back and cover at centre Half. IMO, Weaver, Moo2,Hudson, Fortune, Bailey, Sam, Shelvey, Racon, ZZ,Semedo, Ambrose, Gray are all top half championship players, some could, and have, held their own in the Premiership. Notice the common denominator with all these players? They are all ours!
    We need to get rid of all the loanees and play our own senior players along with some of our youngsters such as Wright and Shelvey.
    Playing a team of Charlton players would go a long way to getting the fans back on board.
    Pards and Pardky just don't get it, and neither unfortunately do the board

    I agree with the broad argument but not with your assessment of those players.

    For me, of that group, only Weaver, Hudson, Fortune, ZZ, Ambrose, and Gray are genuine top-half CCC players.

    Sam is too inconsistent and Shelvey too early to be properly judged and Bailey was relegated last time he played at this level.

    Racon, Semedo and Mouataokil simply don't look cut out for this type of football in the CCC where it is so relentlessly physical.

    That was Pards problem, he spent way too much on "promising" players and did not bring enough meat and potatoes Eddie Youds/Lee Carsley/ Kevin Philips like players to the club when we went down.

    Others on here argued that at the times and I told them they were wrong, they were right.
  • Ormy,
    I think one needs to take into account the fact that it's very hard for any player to do consistently well in a poor team that is on such a bad run.
    Semedo was great as a defensive midfielder at the start of last season when we were flying high. Pardew then dropped him for some reason and he hasn't been quite the same since. Moo2 also was a bit of a sensation when he first joined, however his confidence has also been shattered by poor management, constantly being dropped as happened again against Wednesday.
    I haven't yet seen Racon, I will in March hopefully, but every time he plays he seems to get MOTM.
    Agree about Shelvey, too soon to say, but the early signs are extremely encouraging.
  • QA - Fair enough but I would still rather we had some meat and potatoes players like Stoke assembled (I know the football was horrible) than these foreign youngsters who find the CCC very hard to handle.
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  • Terrible idea. Let's get in somebody with a bit of form. Good managers don't always come up where you expect them to. Despite the Blackburn misadventure I'd like Ince, or the man that followed him into MK Dons - Di Matteo
  • [cite]Posted By: McLovin[/cite]Terrible idea. Let's get in somebody with a bit of form. Good managers don't always come up where you expect them to. Despite the Blackburn misadventure I'd like Ince, or the man that followed him into MK Dons - Di Matteo

    We might "like" Ince but we are not going to get him. He's had a taste of the Premiership and his next job will be at a lower-end Premiership club or an aspiring CCC club, not a potless bunch of Division Three hacks like us.
  • [cite]Posted By: Chirpy Red[/cite]Matt Holland for player/manager?

    Not for CAFC I hope. Nothing against the lad personally but he was captain during some of our worst, uninspired performances over the past few seasons.
    Just because he is usually the only player who looks like he cares after the final whistle and comes to applaud each stand is not enough for me.
    Kinsella, although he is involved and tainted by both the last two managers, would inspire me more.

    Totally agree.
  • Must admit i really like Matty Holland but i am now totally aginst the idea of anyone who's coming in after Pradew?parky that has been toouched by their piss poor mgmt
  • let's face it you only have to look at the table to realise we are doomed, if you didn't already. It's ok to think well we only need a couple of wins, a draw, and then beat the teams around us when we play them but you know, deep down, that it isn't going to happen. Parky is hopeless, hapless and clueless. He's gotta go.

    We are not going to attract a decent manager in our position and anyway I don't think we should appoint a new one until the summer anyway, albeit as soon as the season finishes to give them time to have a right old shake-up. In the meantime why not appoint someone like Matty ? He's have the respect of the players and he's a consumate pro. If we go down, so what it's hardly unexpected. However, we might go down fighting. Whatever, we really have nothing to lose. The other option, which I'd prefer, is Keithy P in charge until the summer. I'm sure he'd get us playing better football and would play with two strikers too. At the end of the day anything other than Parky would get my vote.
  • [cite]Posted By: Ormiston Addick[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: McLovin[/cite]Terrible idea. Let's get in somebody with a bit of form. Good managers don't always come up where you expect them to. Despite the Blackburn misadventure I'd like Ince, or the man that followed him into MK Dons - Di Matteo

    We might "like" Ince but we are not going to get him. He's had a taste of the Premiership and his next job will be at a lower-end Premiership club or an aspiring CCC club, not a potless bunch of Division Three hacks like us.

    Both Ince and Di Matteo have taken jobs at lesser clubs than us. Promoting from within hasn't exactly been a raging success, has it?
  • Think its a serious posibility (in the (near ?) future).
    Saw him at Sparrows acouple times and he's always going out of his way to help and support the younger players and will always make time for them with any advise he can give.
    One for the future- to be sure !
  • What Clem said
  • i dont think we can afford to experiment anymore. it would be another gamble.
  • Matt Holland might make a good manager, but this is not the time to be experimenting with someone who has never managed. We need some fresh blood from outside the club, someone who'll shake the place up a bit and who has some experience. Matty H as an insider doesn't fit that bill.
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