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Do you think 'talks' are going on?

edited January 2009 in General Charlton
It's 7.35pm and the OS has not yet reported Pardkinson's post match comments, made more than two hours ago and widely reported elsewhere ("It was unacceptable and I would like to issue a public apology to our supporters who spent good money coming here ... I won't be calling the players in for extra training on Sunday because I think it's in the best interests of everyone that the players and myself take a break from each other.")

Do you think the club is just embarrassed to report these comments? Or are some serious behind-the-scenes discussions going on which could overtake what Parky has said? Am I just clutching at straws here ?
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  • yes you are.
  • Was wondering (or hoping) the same thing - it seems very late for something not to have appeared by now.
  • Agreed. The club knows that its angered its supporters and is just keeping its head down. Very wise imho
  • I would of thought they are very embarassed but hopefully they are reading that mug his last rights and they fuk him off tonight.
  • edited January 2009
    Its only waiting for the new spin. That why its taking so long.



    Hold on FFS how can Murray/The Board sack the guy when according to Parky he was always geting the job. Or even after they said they would look at his results (se previous statement). When they said no one had applied but Steve Brown on radio said he did but they never got back. Or when PDC did twice and his agent on his behalf once. They have once aging f**cked up but as they own the debt we cant have them leave.
  • Fingers crossed NW! Also try the power of prayer, and anything else you can think of. A 'vote of confidence' is due then the boot after the Palarse game(which we'll lose) is my bet.
  • [cite]Posted By: nigel w[/cite] Or are some serious behind-the-scenes discussions going on which could overtake what Parky has said? Am I just clutching at straws here ?

    Clutching at straws, forget it.

    Said at the time of Pardkinson's confirmation, the decision makers by doing nothing were taking a huge gamble, which will be seen in the next few league games. If it failed they would look stupid.

    Well its failed.

    In the next two league games we have conceded six, and have zero points.

    We have conceded 30 goals in our last 12 league games, yet the midfield is seen as such a problem, he has to get a loanee (Soares) to play not just after one days training, but in a foreign position.

    Fast becoming a farce.
  • You beat me to it......grrrr.

    Was just about to start the very same thread.

    I fear it will all be wishful thinking. As GH has said the O/S are just waiting for Alistair Campbell & Max Clifford to run the interview through the "spinmeister 2009 elite" software and then it will be up there.

    Actually given our current financial situation it is more likely to be running on a spinning jenny or some other 19th century tool.
  • a farce it is AFKA

    i can take getting beat 4-1 by a decent team but Shef Weds FFS they are pony.

    EMBARRASSING TO SAY THE LEAST
  • Once upon a time sanity would have reigned and PP would be looking for a new job, the sad thing about it now is that we are stuck with him. I can't imagine there are many board members who can seriously think that this man is doing even a moderately poor job. I know he doesn't have much to work with but our squad should be able to eke out a win against the likes of Norwich and Wednesday to name but 2. The fact that we can't suggests to me that he really is hopelessly out of his depth. I would rather have Pardew now! and I thought he had taken us as low as it was humanly possible, so from that point of view PP is scaling new heights of ineptitude. No matter what our fiscal problem I just can't see a reason for keeping him.
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  • Please use the official Parkinson out thread.
  • Press conference report now on the OS - we've got to remain positive, some new players with stronger mentalities, blah blah blah.
  • Think AFKA is probably right.

    How many directors would have bothered going to Hillsborough anyway? Both Murray and Chappell? Even Whitehand? Where do they hold the meeting?

    Plus, as I said elsewhere, the announcement on New Year's Eve was meant to be the end of everything regarding sackings/appointments until at least the end of the season. Just last week Murray trotted out his rehearsed lines regarding the PP appointment for the News Shopper. That was a matter of days ago.

    Murray and Co are not prepared to sink any more cash, or sizeable amounts of cash, into the club now. I guess this is in the hope a buyer may come along or perhaps they see CAFC as one, big black hole and, despite their wealth, they are not made of money unlike the likes of Sheikh Mansour, Abramovich, Mittal etc...

    To be honest, even if they DO make an announcement, does it really matter anymore? It's not going to make any difference to how this season will end I'm afraid. I suppose there will be a bit of justice regarding PP's sacking, but tomorrow morning the table will still look the same...
  • edited January 2009
    All too sadly true, SB.

    They've finally agreed a version of what Pardkisnon said for the OS. And guess what? It sounds like more loanees are on the way (I'll be trying to change this team round so I can get some stronger mentalities in.”)...

    Various quotes seem to have been censored, such as the line about him and the team needing some time away from each other. Anyway, here's the gist for those too pissed off to look at the OS:

    "A few home truths had to be said after that. That performance was unacceptable today.

    "We got our first win for a long time on Tuesday but today we were outfought, out-competed and outplayed in every department and that's not good enough.

    "It's the most disappointed I've ever felt in my managerial career. After Tuesday I expected us to come up here and at least put in a resilient performance but today we were too weak.

    "We are all in it together and I don't want to single out individuals. Today we all know as a group of people that that wasn't good enough.”


    "At times like this of course you've got to remain positive.

    "There have been games like the Nottingham Forest game last week when we put in a decent performance and probably should have come away with something. Today that wasn't the case and it's important the players know that.

    "We came up against a team who were hungrier than us on the day and that hurts.

    "I've defended the lads since I've been the manager and we have put in some decent performances.

    "People who watch us at home will tell you we have deserved more points than we have got of late. But I can't defend that performance today; it wasn't good enough.

    "We need to make the players know in no uncertain terms that we are not going to accept that. I'll be trying to change this team round so I can get some stronger mentalities in.”

    "Today we were overpowered all over the pitch but I know there is far more to offer from the group of players we've got.

    "My biggest concern sitting here now is if I'd come off the pitch as a manager and seen the eleven players run themselves through brick walls to try and get a result and not got it, then at least I can go home and think they gave us everything. Today the mentality wasn't strong enough so I'm disappointed.

    "The people I'm more disappointed for are the supporters, who have paid good money to come up and support us today. They have spent a lot coming up the motorway and buying their tickets. That is not cheap and they have been short-changed by us today.”
  • The time will soon be opon us to all show how we feel lets use this medium to join up and show it or else the words are pointless and meaningless, If we are angry lets show it otherwise we are just the fools we are being taken for
  • Hope you downed that bottle of red wine Nigel - might numb the pain a bit!!!

    I've just posted elsewhere that Parky is really getting to sound like Pardew - similar sort of vague explanations and theories...

    On a brighter note, changing the subject rather deliberately, Sam Northeast scored a fifty for England U-19s today in South Africa - he might feature at Canterbury a bit more this season....
  • Less hungry than Weffield Shednesday ffs.
  • Holy f*ck we're in the poo aren't we?

    Forest sack manager and have not looked back
    Norwich sack manager and immediately win convincingly

    We appear to be going backwards.

    I realise Ambrose was unable to play today but why change the team other than that? (Shelvey coming in for Ambrose).

    I didn't go today and so I can only go on what's being said but bringing in a load of players just isn't the answer unless they are better than what we've got.

    Where was Josh Wright for example? Why Gray for Burton? I'm not a Burton fan but why Gray? With forwards continuing to fire blanks, why not try out Dickson or give Tody more than twenty minutes?

    Parky is talking about bring in more players. I'm sorry this is wrong. He needs to motivate and get the best out of what we've got.

    The club decided to save money on a new manager and beef up the team. I'm sorry, the managers job, to a greater extent, is about getting the best out of what he's got. When Curbs and Gritty took over after when we had no money whatsoever, did they go out and get a load of players in? No they had, in the main to work with what we've got. It's not like the Chelskis and Man Citys of this world who can spend a fortune getting in better players. At the level we are at, players are all at a similar level and thus changing them isn't going to give you what you want. Managing them effectively is.

    The Board have taken the wrong gamble in my view.
  • Wrong gamble ! They are on a belter of a losing streak if you ask me.
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  • Is Murray man enough to accept he was wrong. Do the board members have the bollox to over rule him demand a change

    I doubt it

    what a shambles
  • [cite]Posted By: bingaddick[/cite]Holy f*ck we're in the poo aren't we?

    Forest sack manager and have not looked back
    Norwich sack manager and immediately win convincingly

    We appear to be going backwards.

    I realise Ambrose was unable to play today but why change the team other than that? (Shelvey coming in for Ambrose).

    I didn't go today and so I can only go on what's being said but bringing in a load of players just isn't the answer unless they are better than what we've got.

    Where was Josh Wright for example? Why Gray for Burton? I'm not a Burton fan but why Gray? With forwards continuing to fire blanks, why not try out Dickson or give Tody more than twenty minutes?

    Parky is talking about bring in more players. I'm sorry this is wrong. He needs to motivate and get the best out of what we've got.

    The club decided to save money on a new manager and beef up the team. I'm sorry, the managers job, to a greater extent, is about getting the best out of what he's got. When Curbs and Gritty took over after when we had no money whatsoever, did they go out and get a load of players in? No they had, in the main to work with what we've got. It's not like the Chelskis and Man Citys of this world who can spend a fortune getting in better players. At the level we are at, players are all at a similar level and thus changing them isn't going to give you what you want. Managing them effectively is.

    The Board have taken the wrong gamble in my view.

    What Bing said. I still think the ability in the squad should have been good enough for at the very least mid-table. Poor managment by Pardew and now Parky. Mainly though I blame Pardew. What an absolute shocking mess.
  • He wasn't allowed to play Burton as part of the deal but as Uncle said elsewhere Dickson would have been more suited to chasing through balls than an out of sorts Gray.
  • [cite]Posted By: LenGlover[/cite]He wasn't allowed to play Burton as part of the deal but as Uncle said elsewhere Dickson would have been more suited to chasing through balls than an out of sorts Gray.

    Yeah I should have remember that. Dickson though has not started a game for us. Has he been kept out by prolific scorers? Are our strikers holding the line well and bringing others into the game? It's crazy. We've lent one to Smallwall, one isn't trusted to start, the other isn't fit enough for more than twenty minutes.
  • [cite]Posted By: nth london addick[/cite]Is Murray man enough to accept he was wrong. Do the board members have the bollox to over rule him demand a change

    I doubt it

    what a shambles

    they would have to consult the "too many cooks" matrix for that that was probably typed up in tripplicate... and means no one can be blamed and no one can lead either, for any decisions ever!

    Fecking bunchs of mugs the lot of them they have all failed the board,, the manager(if you can call that complete joke of a man a manager) and destroyed a proud club .... we have gone nothing but down hill and I can see nothing, NOTHING on the horizon to chan ge that... this incompetant team and club fills me with zero confidence that it can bounce back... mid tabke stability is all i am hopinf ogr next year and for us to have fianlly since december 2004... hit bottom and finally start to turn....
  • Regarding Soares playing after a day's training, even worse than that, Spring played last week after no training and hardly any match practice all season. An absolute joke.
  • [cite]Posted By: HandG[/cite]Regarding Soares playing after a day's training, even worse than that, Spring played last week after no training and hardly any match practice all season. An absolute joke.

    Should just be using Wright and Racon when he's back instead of those two.
  • Ohh nooo - Racon will be back in the reserves with the Charlton players.
  • We're in the shit with a board that's spent and wants out, and heading for relegation with a team that's all over the shop. We can't afford a sudden turnaround, we're suffering from the legacies of gambles in 2006 and 2007 which blew up in our faces. And stupidly inconsistent Phil Parkinson might be.... we're stuck with him.

    There might be a miracle comeback, but... nah, I don't expect it either. It's all gone badly wrong. But would any of us here have done any better in the board's shoes? It's not like we're the first relegated-from-the-Premier-League to hit the skids.

    Unconstructive anger won't help anyone... especially if it's got the benefit of hindsight. I'm just hunkering down for next season.

    In the meantime, I'm going to start a thread all in capital letters that's full of imptotent anger or something like that.
  • What are the other options here other than expressing "impotent anger"?

    I had to shut the commentary feed off after the second goal... the team seemed neither prepared nor motivated.

    I would be prepared to accept uneven performances from young players that lose focus, but to have those players rot on the bench for "committed" has beens and never weres adds insult to injury.

    Shaking my fist and cursing the board would appear to be an appropriate response.
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