[cite]Posted By: Carter[/cite]I'll get pelters for saying it but having a forward who can harrass defenders into mistakes would have been a help Saturday someone like errr Luke Varney.
Burton is not the same class, and certainly not on his own. The amount of balls Shelvey gave him in the first half he didn't seem to know what to do with that Varney would have been on in a shot and would have buried one of them. Pace scares defenders shitless whatever level you play at and also allows you to get away with mistakes. Just not from our fans it seems
Sorry but your memory has dimed on how bad a Varney was in front of goal.
He was like a rabbit in headlights. The only people in any danger would have been those sitting behind the goal.
I agree with you that pace scares defenders and I'll probably get pelters but I think that McCleod would have done better with those chances than Varney would.
If you look at the goals that McCleod scored for MK Dons, 90% of them came from the sort of balls that Shelvey was putting through.
[cite]Posted By: AFKABartram[/cite]So there are at least 30+ people on this thread that believe we at minimum still have a fighting chance of staying up.
Remember that the next time someone states this forum is filled to the brim with negativity.
But this is just one thread compared to how many that have been going on about how we're already doomed in the last few weeks? At the moment the positivity is like the head on a pint of beer - it's there, but it's not a substantial part of the experience at the moment.
I have read this thread with amusement rather than depression. Some people really do think we are gonna stay up, well fair play to you all. However the catalogue of things going wrong smacks of our last expereince with relegation, nothing is going for us on & off the pitch when it's your time to go it's your time to go, just didn't think it would be so soon after the last one. The bottom line is are there three teams worse than us.......errr nah !
"the positivity is like the head on a pint of beer - it's there, but it's not a substantial part of the experience at the moment."
Ali, given that ''the experience at the moment'' is no win in three months, I think the degree of positivity people have mustered here is pretty damned impressive. That there is any head on the pint at all and the beer hasn't gone totally and utterly flat is a tribute to how hope can triumph over reality!
[cite]Posted By: Rothko[/cite]Gray would have taken one of those chances on Saturday
I agree if he'd got there but I'm not convinced he would have been quick enough.
I agree he would have scored at least one of them. He is better than Burton so I'm not sure why Burton is ahead of him...
As fro staying up it's unlikely, but while theres still a chance all the players/manager and fans will be dreaming of us scoring a last minute winner vs Norwich on the final day to keep us up. I do think we will have a good set of results soon though and give us all hope just like two years ago, but I think eventually it will be just too much of an ask to get out of it.
Gray's lack of pace means he wouldn't have got to the ball ahead of the defender.
Varney would have got there but blazed it into the Forest hordes in the back of the Jimmy Seed.
Burton got there be limply screwed his shot wide.
McLeod would probably have got there but his first touch would have been back-pass like to the keeper.
Dickson would have got there and who knows what he would have done - my money's on slipped it past the keeper into the back on the net. 1-0 to us and his apparent defencies with regard to 'link-up' play rendered irrelevent as indeed they should be...
[cite]Posted By: kinveachyaddick[/cite]Gray's lack of pace means he wouldn't have got to the ball ahead of the defender.
Varney would have got there but blazed it into the Forest hordes in the back of the Jimmy Seed.
Burton got there be limply screwed his shot wide.
McLeod would probably have got there but his first touch would have been back-pass like to the keeper.
Dickson would have got there and who knows what he would have done - my money's on slipped it past the keeper into the back on the net. 1-0 to us and his apparent defencies with regard to 'link-up' play rendered irrelevent as indeed they should be...
I'd have fancied McLeod to score but other than that, couldn't agree more.
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Sorry but your memory has dimed on how bad a Varney was in front of goal.
He was like a rabbit in headlights. The only people in any danger would have been those sitting behind the goal.
I agree with you that pace scares defenders and I'll probably get pelters but I think that McCleod would have done better with those chances than Varney would.
If you look at the goals that McCleod scored for MK Dons, 90% of them came from the sort of balls that Shelvey was putting through.
Remember that the next time someone states this forum is filled to the brim with negativity.
I agree if he'd got there but I'm not convinced he would have been quick enough.
Burton is no greyhound but he is quicker than Gray. I think Gray and Basey would be a good race.
"the positivity is like the head on a pint of beer - it's there, but it's not a substantial part of the experience at the moment."
Ali, given that ''the experience at the moment'' is no win in three months, I think the degree of positivity people have mustered here is pretty damned impressive. That there is any head on the pint at all and the beer hasn't gone totally and utterly flat is a tribute to how hope can triumph over reality!
A BIG FAT NO, we will not stay up
I agree he would have scored at least one of them. He is better than Burton so I'm not sure why Burton is ahead of him...
As fro staying up it's unlikely, but while theres still a chance all the players/manager and fans will be dreaming of us scoring a last minute winner vs Norwich on the final day to keep us up. I do think we will have a good set of results soon though and give us all hope just like two years ago, but I think eventually it will be just too much of an ask to get out of it.
Only if the teams above us don't pick up any points at the same time ...
Varney would have got there but blazed it into the Forest hordes in the back of the Jimmy Seed.
Burton got there be limply screwed his shot wide.
McLeod would probably have got there but his first touch would have been back-pass like to the keeper.
Dickson would have got there and who knows what he would have done - my money's on slipped it past the keeper into the back on the net. 1-0 to us and his apparent defencies with regard to 'link-up' play rendered irrelevent as indeed they should be...
As for the Dickson scenario - it looks like we'll never know...
I'd have fancied McLeod to score but other than that, couldn't agree more.
I'm the Number 1 loony around here ...........(!)
No Gloomsters on this thread.
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