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Paddy Mac

edited December 2008 in General Charlton
Thank you for Paddy Mac - he is rapidly becoming a major hero at SE25. Yesterday against Sheffield United he begged Neil Warnock to play despite having a dislocated shoulder, and the legend scored. He ended up the game covered in blood after one of Blackwells thugs broke his nose, but he continued right to the end.

I can't speak highly enough of Paddy Mac - legend, hero and gent.
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  • He wasn't blessed at being a great footballer, however he made up for that in effort.
  • edited December 2008
    Not forgetting he missed an open goal and gave away a penalty, too.
  • whoop de doo
  • Thought they weren't "bothered" about us??
  • exactly, Paddy Mac last years news
  • [quote][cite]Posted By: BDL[/cite]Thought they weren't "bothered" about us??[/quote]

    We're not that bothered about you sweetheart. I wanted to thankyou for the neighbourly gesture of giving us Paddy Mac and taking Mark "Agricultural" Hudson off our hands.

    Are you looking forward to the 27th January? I am. Got my ticket last week. I am looking forward to you singing "Number one in South London". Do you still do that, or has the mood been tempered somewhat with your inability to win in 14 games?
  • Oh thank you darling, how is that old luvvie John McGinty? Or are you not part of his ensemble? I'm sure he'd welcome some fresh new blood into his clan.

    Can't wait until the 27th my dear boy.
  • [quote][cite]Posted By: BDL[/cite]Oh thank you darling, how is that old luvvie John McGinty? Or are you not part of his ensemble? I'm sure he'd welcome some fresh new blood into his clan.

    Can't wait until the 27th my dear boy.[/quote]

    I can assure you Squire, that I am not a member of any ensemble, clique or circle, just a man wishing to act in the spirit of British pleasantries and thank his neighbours for a lovely gift.

    I am delighted that you are looking forward to the 27th - I always enjoy the trip to Plumstead to visit our neighbours. You are such nice and pleasant people.
  • edited December 2008
    I'll look out for you, Matt. By the sounds of it you'll be wearing a cape, smoking a pipe and signing up for some activity or group of which you claim to have no real interest in. By the looks of it, if you weren't out solving mysteries you'd lead an incredibly dull existence.
  • Im sure plenty of people will be bussing it in....
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  • Believe me when it matters most he will be shown wanting. The typical percentage football of Warnock is protecting his short coming with cover from midfield something we couldn't do. Once he is exposed again to a player running at him with the ball he will revert to type. Once a donkey always....comes to mind.
  • I can think of a lot better words than agricultural to describe Hudson.
  • none of us can moan about it becasue we all thought we got the better of the swap eh
  • Still think Hudson is the better player, although as we all agreed at the time they are very similar type players and similarish ability. I think Hudson has a bit (not a lot) more composure and of course Hudson was free whilst they paid somewhere around £500K for Paddy. Hudson's wages are of course more.

    All in all think there ain't much in it and no one should be crowing over who got the best deal.
  • Ability wise I dont think there is any difference between Paddy and Hudson, but quite simply Warnock gets the best out of them. So the better player happens to be the one that is playing under Warnock.

    Hudson was very good for us under Warnock, before Warnock got hold of him he was very unreliable and had suffered from being played out of position. NW gave him a role, some self belief and he ended up as captain.

    He is not worth the 11K a week he is rumoured to be getting at the Valley. Paddy will be on nothing like that so financially I'd guess the deal would have work out about the same.

    I still think you will get out of this................just.
  • SOS you are absolutely right except for one thing.

    We don't think we'll get out of this. I have to say that we are nowhere near the team that beat you at The Valley last year and we are even nowhere near as good as the crap team that you beat at Selhurst a few months ago. We are dreadful and unless we get a new manager and half a dozen decent players in the next few weeks then we are sunk.
  • I think sos is spot on
  • Covered End, if it was already Easter, I would agree with you - but it's not.


    We're not even the team that won 2 of it's first 3 games this season, that's plain to see. If anything, ability wise, the only position at the moment where we are truly lacking, is a creative centremid to interact with others.

    Our biggest problem, is not defence - most teams often ship a goal during a match - but our inability to create enough chances. Let me say that again - we simply are not creating a sufficient number of chances, therefore we rarely look like scoring.



    Our second biggest problem is the mentality of the side. Ability wise, our players are more or less up to the standard of the division, but collectively as a team and in many cases individually, there is no longer the belief that we can win the match.

    How many times have we seen recently, the team plays well enough until we concede - and then the belief evaporates instantly before our eyes? At that moment we might as well all pack up and go home, because the team becomes dead on it's feet.


    They are the 2 most urgent problems to address - if they can be put right, the team has enough ability to make a fair fist of a relegation escape.

    But for crying out loud, whenever there's a setback they need to fight!

    And if the present manager can't change that, then there needs to be a change in manager.

    But, whether you're resigned to relegation already or not, there is still good time to save this club from relegation.
    But the sooner we start, the better chance we shall have.
  • edited December 2008
    SoS I am sure you don't want to give your down and almost out neighbours cause for hope, but I would love to know on what basis you think we will get out of this, cause there are a lot of addicks fans a majority that can only see an Intercity 125 bringing us a light in this tunnel.
  • edited December 2008
    Oggy your comments are always well informed, but I would add that whilst you say our biggest problem is not defence, we have let in the most goals (or had before yesterday). Also I know it's not easy for you to get to games, but if you had seen as many as me this season and we are getting worse as time goes on, then you can only conceed that they will be relegated unless we can appoint a successful manager and get in half a dozen bigger, stronger, better players with some balls in the next few weeks.
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  • Kap10

    I think you'll get out of this because

    A. your squad is capable of a higher position than the one you currently occupy. They just need confidence and a back basics approach to the game. A new manager will bring this.
    B. As poor as you have been you are by no means a drift.
    C. Southampton are poor and getting poorer.
    D. someone else who is not even in the relegation scrap at present will also drop in to the mix.
    E. The CAFC job was a poison chalice for anyone following Curbishley, it was like following o'neill at leicester. No one was going to improve on what curbs did. But now CAFC are on their heels at actually a pretty good job to take over... the only way is up and all that.
    F. A new manager will be appointed and it almost does not matter who it is, they are bound to get some kind of positive reaction.
    G. And we'd love it if you went down, so if only to pee us off you'll stay up and we'll all be moaning about jammy charlton.
  • Hi Covered End, I've attended 4 of the games in our 14 games without a win so far, plus of course the live games on the box, plus I get the minute detail from my ST holder father - so I like to believe I've at least a handle on this crisis.

    Over the course of 90 minutes, individual errors aside, under Parky the defence appear to by and large be doing their job, especially with the amount of pressure they are under with the midfield being totally inadequate to take the game to opponents.

    I stand by what I said, our biggest problem is the lack of creativity in centremid and the lack of chances to the striker(s). If we were scoring goals, we would feel that we had a chance.


    Secondly, the fact that the team holds up together until it concedes, yet after doesn't take the game to the opposition.
    It feels like a surrender. Where's the tenacity and determination to retrieve the situation?
  • edited December 2008
    Only problem with your scenario SOS is that we haven't even advertised the job and have publicly stated that we do not intend to review the situation until January. Therefore, unless the board go back on what they are currently stating and I desperately hope that they do, by the time they decide that they do actually need a new manager and get one, it will be too late for him to get any players in by end of Jan ( we could of course go for loans as they've worked a treat so far).
  • edited December 2008
    Oggy you are correct, I was simply adding that our defence is also not up to scratch.

    If I'm brutally honest we don't have a good enough right or left back (unless McEverley is good enough when he returns), our centre mid I agree is not good enough, (any of them), our wingers are not performing and nor are our forwards.

    In summary I wouldn't be looking to get in a goalie and I think John Fortune is playing well, but anyone else could go and it wouldn't be a great loss (judging them on how they are playing at present).
  • Hi Covered End, first I agree with you that if the the present manager can't change things, then there needs to be a change in manager ..... the sooner the better.

    But generally speaking, most of us can only see where we are now, and not the possibilty of how things can quickly change - a case of when standing too close to an elephant, all you can see is grey.

    It took less than half a season to get into our present predicament, and maybe it'll take less than half a season to get out of it. Perhaps.

    Look at Son of Selhurst's posts; he's not emotionally involved with Charlton, so stripping away the emotion, he can see our situation as it really is.

    Another day tomorrow. But I agree with you, the sooner we change the mentality of the place, the better the chance we have. That will probably mean a new manager within a fortnight.
  • edited December 2008
    I can hear AFKA banging his head against the wall.
  • Oggy I think I've got my head stuck up the elephant's arse :-)

    NB I sent Derek Chapplle a long whisper earlier, begging him to appoint a decent manager and that incomprehensibly we are repeating the same mistakes from a couple of years ago, eg Les Reed etc etc
  • [cite]Posted By: Covered End[/cite]Oggy I think I've got my head stuck up the elephant's arse :-)

    NB I sent Derek Chapplle a long whisper earlier, begging him to appoint a decent manager and that incomprehensibly we are repeating the same mistakes from a couple of years ago, eg Les Reed etc etc

    LOL, Covered End!

    Derek Chappell ..... I wonder if you'll get a full reply to your message. In some ways, it would be insightful if he would post on here again, unless there's already behind doors activity to appoint a new broom .....?
  • [cite]Posted By: Oggy Red[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: Covered End[/cite]Oggy I think I've got my head stuck up the elephant's arse :-)

    NB I sent Derek Chapplle a long whisper earlier, begging him to appoint a decent manager and that incomprehensibly we are repeating the same mistakes from a couple of years ago, eg Les Reed etc etc

    LOL, Covered End!

    Derek Chappell ..... I wonder if you'll get a full reply to your message. In some ways, it would be insightful if he would post on here again, unless there's already behind doors activity to appoint a new broom .....?

    Well at the Bromley meeting on Tuesday he stated that Parkinson was the man for the job and he was hopeful that he would be successful. When asked who had contacted Richard Murray re the position, which has still not been advertised, he said there was a few interesting names, but turned to Steve Waggott as he didn't really know.

    I challenged him that his "hope" that Parkinson would be successful did not fill me with any confidence and was there anything else he could offer. He basically shrugged and repeated that he "hoped" that Parkinson would turn it around and we had no money to spend as we weren't going to borrow any more.

    I wasn't impressed with either Waggott or Chappell who came across to me as dispassionate businessmen, unlike RM who you can tell really cares. However, that is a personal judgement and I may well be wrong and maybe it's not a bad thing in any case?
  • Thanks for that, Covered End.

    I couldn't be at that Bromley meeting, but it does sound rather that the 'Accountants' are in charge at Charlton, regardless of our current plight.

    Mind you, most businessman work from a sound strategy that includes how to take their business forward as well as their current specific financial situation - and it can be difficult to balance needs of one area of a business against another.

    But usually, their strategy relies on a little more substance than 'hope'.
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