I am as disappointed as the next Addick but I have to say some of the people on here are doing my head in.
FACT - We are too quick to boo our players. That's probably not helping some of the players. We bring them down and they, in turn, bring us down - we are currently spiralling in the wrong direction.
We need 1 good performance and things will look rosier. We need a leader on the park who will pick people up and motivate. These things are missing at the moment but will return. We just need to keep the faith
We are still only about 15 points from the playoffs and there are a stack of points left up for grabs.
Why don't we concentrate on cheering for the players rather than slagging them off. I dare say a few players come on here regularly and are probably pissed off for some of the vitriol they read on these pages - can you blame them?
Hardly any of our squad now are "Billy Big Spuds" yet the fans still seem to think we are so we are heaping too much expectation on the players. I know it's hard - we all know they get paid shed loads of money but it's hardly their fault.
Against Southampton we (the fans) were good - we applauded the players and they gave it their all. If their keeper had not got changed in a phone box that morning we would have romped to victory and things could be very very different.
Tomorrow we have an opportunity against a very average Coventry team - this is an opportunity to give us fans something to sing about. A chance to get a bit of confidence back into the team. An opportunity to make people sit up and realise we are not going to roll over and accept relegation
Come on boys - your club needs you
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We have not won in 13 games.
Another one with his head in the sand.
Are we going to magic a leader, or a win ?
you guys can arf talk a good relegation. talking about how bad we are isn't helping anyone.
Im up for the positive......
as I said a bundled in winner of someones knee should do it.....
I hope we get a win - FFS, we need one, but without sweeping changes and a fresh approach, it's just more of the same I fear ...
The team is deep in the Brown stuff. We all know that.
But, for crying out load, we might even give ourselves a decent chance - if we only put half as much energy into getting behind the team, as we do in slagging them off. And accepting relegation before Christmas for Chrissakes!
Tomorrow we play Coventry. It's not a feckin funeral, you know - it's our chance to get behind the team.
We're all in this together, so why don't we actually all pull together?
if we score a few that are bundled, not deserved messy crap goals off someones arse, knee, nose or shoulder I won't care if it gets us 3 points :-)
If our defenders could actually do their job I don't think we'd be in the position we're in.
Agreed - and I point the finger squarely at 2 players for this. I think both Hudson and Weaver should be "rested" for a week or two.
Weaver - at 6'4" should be towering at crosses but instead he flaps.
Hudson - No sign of a Captain here. Not great with the organisation and I have never seen him gee-ing people up when we concede. In fact his shoulders are down like anyone elses.
I'd make Semedo Captain - a statement of intent that we have good young players that are going to roll up their sleeves and get us out of this shit.
sorry supaclive, i've just seen a post from you demanding me and other positive fans don't post on this board. I'm off.
The more we think cheering the players on is going to spur them on to winning, the more bizarre we become - of course we support them
But it IS the players AND the management AND the board who have got us into this position - NOT the fans!
What has dawned on me this season is that we are not good enough FULLSTOP end of.
As fans i think we now have to knuckle down accept it and do our bit to try to help out.
Giving Buzz dog loads on saturday may have made some feel better, but did it really make him want to put in a bit more effort, i doubt it,, yet people are moaning that he gave them the V sign, so what if he did
I am royally pissed off at how things are panning out this season, i aint pleased at all i have my frustrations at the players the board and Pardew, one of them has gone as have some of the players who wernt helping.
We all have to accept that this season we have got the players and the manager and the board that are here right now, If you think getting rid of more will help then i can understand that but i am wary of how much change can destabalise even more a club that is teetering on the edge of a disaster.
You may want to sack the board you may want to sack Parkie you may want to drop certain players but we have hit rock bottom now,
you are the fans when it is going great you get on and enjoy the ride, you are also the real fans when it is going shit you roll your sleeves up and TRY to get them going
so what if it doesnt seem to have the desired impact immediately so what if we loose every game from now to the end of the season, we all have moaned about not trying on the pitch so lets not all stop trying now
What other alternative is there
go down without a fight
go down saying i told you so
i was right you were wrong is all bollox we are feeling like this because we give a shit, lets turn up tomorrow lets be in full voice and lets give it 100% to get behind them.
I am not saying we are too blame before that gets levelled at me i am saying lets focus on what we can do at each game
We aint got no money, We aint got Curbs or Davies or whoever else you want weve got Parky
But at the moment we still have Charlton lets fecking do our best to keep it that way
NLA ..... that is a superb post, hits the nail on the head about our predicament.
It's not about blame, it's not about moaning and giving up - but it is about what we as supporters can do.
People, read the post again.
Someone trying to look for a positive angle has their 'head in the sand' ?
You have no right whatsoever telling people what they can and can't post, and if it means that yet another sensible poster decides not to contribute due to the constant negativity and digs of those who take a different view, then thanks a lot.
the rose tinted posse wind me up probably as much as the negative/sarcastic comments wind them up, on the footballing side of things there isn't anything to be positive about , this is as low as we've been on playing side of things for a long time..
what makes it hurt more is the highs we have fallen from so quickly...
in the ground we can make the atmosphere better but imo whatever the atmosphere is like if you are a crap footballer whether someone cheers you or not wont make a big enough difference to your non ability...
i'll be there tonight cheering them on but i know there are a number of limited footballers out there and they just aint good enough but we also have some half decent players who are playing below themselves at the moment, let's hope the management/coaching team can sort it out quickly cos we're in a bad bad position
'an addick for life'
Of course it can make a big enough difference ...... look at the atmosphere in cup games, and players playing above themselves, giant killing, etc.
At this level they are not individually bad players - but mentally they are struggling.
And remember the days when we've been a goal or even two down, and with the crowd behind us, the team's come from behind to equalise or even win the match?
And win or lose, invariably when the crowd gets behind the team, it greatly raises the atmosphere and energy in the ground, and we come away thinking we had a decent go or euphoric from snatching a result out of the jaws of defeat.
Self confidence. Plain and simple.
FFS just give us a couple of results.
I like what your doing here oggy, and across a couple of other threads...
I thought he was about 6 foot, blimey
Is he the only man to gain negative height increase when he jumps....apart from LEaburn obviously
You've hit the nail on the head, Oohaah ......unfortunately our support at home isn't good enough vocally.
It used to be, though - remember the days of Fortress Valley?
But in those days, we all got behind the team.
At 2nd tier level, you'll find that our 'inept' players are actually quite good individually. You try playing against them, they'll run circles around you and do things with a ball that you can only dream of.
Funny enough, they performed well for other teams - which is why Charlton signed them.
And have you noticed, when they leave here they perform well for other teams?
For example, last season Iwelumo was one of our 'inept' players, now he's scored 15 goals already - last Saturday, even Varney managed to score, ffs.
Players come in all shapes and forms - but they are not gods, just human,
And regardless of them earning more money than you or me, they are still subject to all the strengths and frailties of being human - and subject to crisis of confidence.
That's why support matters. Because it's human nature to respond to encouragement.