Of course its bloody hard at the mo with such a bad run behind us. But I think a few people need to take a step back and have a think to be honest.
We are simply getting all too demanding. Don't want him, he's sh1t, he should be playing, he should be sold etc.
We think we're experts, yet we know zero about what goes on day to day in training, personalities, attitudes, fitness, injuries, personal lives etc. They are all key factors in what side gets picked on a Saturday, not just on form and ability.
Some of the manager suggestions have been ridiculous, yet there would have been uproar had Mick McCarthy been appointed to follow Curbishley. Yet look two years on what he has done with Wolves.
I hope more than anything Parky gets the job full time. To do so it would mean we would have put together an impressive short-term run, which is desperately what we need at the moment.
I don't give a damn whether he was Pardew's assistant or shoe shiner previously, you work for a boss and you do what your boss tells you to do. I won't judge him on anything that has gone on in the past.
This would be Phil's third management job, and he has been managing since 2003. He is neither an expensive appointment nor is he completely wet behind the ears. What the (few) of us at QPR saw on Tuesday was an encouraging improvement on what we have seen in the last couple of months, even if the results went against us.
I was impressed he was ruthless enough to say he wants it when his boss has just got the boot, I was impressed with the way he wasn't afraid to change the team around, i agreed with his subs when he made them, i've agreed with everything he has said since being made caretaker, and more than anything, i sense he really wants this job.
Of course, if things don't improve in the next few games then he won't get it, but i'm certainly going to be giving him a chance and to be honest, i'm really disappointed it appears others aren't even willing to do that.
Expectation levels are still completely wrong.
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Totally agree.
We need to calm down.
The players are going to be absolutely petrified saturday morning and us the fans are heaping more pressure on them.
Come on Parky.
and so was what I saw at Birmingham. Look what happened the next game.
Bit of perspective definately needed, get behind the team, let them do their job and lets hope they can turn things around.
I for one want to see Parky given the job, give him a chance, dont tar him with the same brush, let him make his own mistakes and evaluate him on those if you have to.
was just raising what I thought was a valid line of reasoning. Sorry if you didn't like it, or AFKA come to that. I sincerely hope you are all right and Parky takes us on a sparkling run of form and improved performances. Just hope that six games down the line we are not saying that he has wasted six games and we still deep in do do.
Agree with the rest but not sure where you're coming from with this. Even people with low expectations must have thought we would do better than being in the bottom 3, at this point in the season, and so it has followed that there's been a lot of moaning from fans. Granted expectation levels have been high and continue to be with some fans, but a reasonable level of expectation is present in nearly all fans who hope for some modicum of success for their club. Yes some people still see us as a Prem club are wrong but by the same token lets not start thinking like a League one club just yet.
New man comes in tomorrow, cannot sign a single player till January. Talk about fresh face etc having an impact, do you really think with the inability to bring in a single player he wants, or outs a single player he didn't, it would have that much more impact ?
What would happen then in 6 games we do that and nothing has changed. We would have played every single card we had with over 5 months to the end of the season.
Parky clearly disagreed with Pardew on certain things, which is why in one game he ripped up the right hand side and centre midfield of the team. he is clearly going into this as a new man, exactly the same as any other 'fresh face' would do.
Giving Parky the short-term is the sensible approach. If it fails to make an impact, then we can play our final card in getting a new man in. Our finances mean we can't be cavalier about this.
Half of the people on this Board back in the netaddicks day wanted Curbishley out because they didn't like boring mid table Premiership football and thought that Championship football would be better because it would be exciting and all the "plastics" would go.
Well you've your wish now enjoy it!
We can't afford to lose games, especially to Southampton at the moment, the idea that losing is good in the long run is stupid imho
Also, if Thick Mick had been made manager I think there would've been carnage.
Taking the situation as a whole, the free season ticket offer didn't help to lessen any expectations?
which is exactly what these 2 posts do?
I think it is fair and right that fans should be given a forum to say so and so is shit he needs to be dropped
It is only right that people can say i dont want so and so in charge
I think Varney needs to be dropped because his record taht the moment is shit, I wouldnt boo him or heckle him on saturday but i should be able to put it up here surely
Despite my saying to the contrary before this is a great point and I agree 100% - i was one to say he was Pards asst etc but this is spot on.
which is exactly what these 2 posts do?
thats what i mean WSS but we cant all agree all the time and even though i dont agree with the is a win what we need thread
it does ask some good questions
yeah but league one could be MORE exciting new grounds to visit blah blah blah
My particular bugbear with this, is Dickson. He's an out and out striker. In the only objective tests of his ability to perform role - his goal scoring record, he's not far off a one for one ratio (the reserves and on loan for Gillingham). I'm not saying the guy is world class, or doesn't have some flaw that isn't apparent to an amateur like me; but that record - and the poor performance of those ahead of him in the queue makes it truly amazing that he's never even had a single start. I suppose this kind of thing is why we are such shit at the moment.
Oh, and Deon Burton and Ian Harte are just utter shite and shouldn't be playing league football. I don't care how rose tinted your glasses are you have to draw the line with the grimness of some of the players that we're tickling at the moment
no one here knows whats goes on at the training ground, how people play, their attitude, why they are picked or not picked other than the 90 mins on the pitch. everyone thinks they are the expert but in reality - no one is, not even the manager(s) if we're totally honest, everyone is just doing their best.
Deon Burton scored tuesday night for sheff wed, 10 starts and 8 apps by sub this season so far. 22 shots and 7 on target. make of that what you will.
even you cant spin Burton into a good signing :-) those stats show why he aint in the team
Yes, come back Curbs and thrill us with your Brazil 1970's football again!
Let's just hope Col U stay up next season eh.
not spinning, just putting up some stats.
It means he gets a shot on target every 2.5 appearances and doesn't score very often.