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Right chaps, over to you. Lets hear what you think........

edited November 2008 in General Charlton
Interested in YOUR views on what needs to happen in the next paragraph of the club.

Forget anything that has already happened, lets just concentrate on what you think should / needs to happen in both the next couple of weeks, and in the couple of months that follow.

No replying / disagreeing with others views, let everyone just have their say.

Keep it short (no more than two paragraphs), keep it sensible, and please consider what you write before you press Add Comments.

Away you go.....
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  • first and foremost is to get away from the relegation zone then and only then can we think about greater things.
  • We must survive relegation without massive debt, and sign Shelvey long term in February. We must continue the free season ticket offer.
  • I'd like to see someone like Redknapp (though obviously not Redknapp) come in with some experience to stabilise things, perhaps as an interim manager and aim for mid-table security and then for Charlton to look for a manager in the summer who can take the club forward.

    At all costs we have to avoid relegation and preferably a relegation fight. With our squad, which is pretty strong, we should be in the top half of the division at least. I'd also like the new manager to bring in a couple of defenders from somewhere, we have to stop leaking stupid goals.
  • The players must take a good look at themselves and recognise the mess they have got our club in. There is no more time for excuses or for feeling sorry for themselves They need to rally round Parkinson. Concentrate hard on their jobs. And give 100% in every game. If they do that they'll get the fans behind them and together we can move up the league.

    If we can get safe this season, then we can reassess the situation next summer without the parachute payments.
  • I'm still hurting after watching that debacle today. I can't see any short term fixes at the moment, which is what "the next couple of weeks, and in the next couple of months" amount to really. I wish I could see something. I wish I could do something.
    I think the only thing that can truly take the club forward is the right type of takeover. As much as I try I can't see around that, which is why I'm still gutted about the Zabeel affair.
  • Think the board need to breathe and take their time. Their next decision is massive and I'd let Parky have the reigns for 3 games. Then perhaps appoint an interim manager, hasn't done the loony tunes Geordies any harm.
  • I want defenders who can defend,i dont give a toss about full backs gettin forward i wont full backs who can defend.Until we learn how to defend things wont get better.Let's get the basics right.
  • I think it is time for our youth players to be blooded ala shelvey and Wright i thik it is time to stop playing 451 at home especially,

    i think we need the right man in place to make us hard to beat, and i think it is important that it doesnt take longer than a week to get this person in, as to be honest it has gone on too long
  • Your right there CA, someone who knows what the wrong end of the table is all about and knows what to do about it. If they're succesful in doing that this season get them to stay on because next season won't be all sweetness and light unless money comes from somewhere. I've spent the evening trying to convince my son that a Keith Peacock/Mark Kinseller partnership would work,as they've both fought relegation battles and know what it means to our club should it happen. Whoever does take the job they're going to need us with them so good luck to the board, this time they've GOT to get it right.
  • We need to defend, play football to feet and stop giving the ball away. We need the midfield to support the strikers. I Would say let AP go and give one of the backroom staff 2 / 3 games while we look to complete the signing of the right one. If they do well and we get a bounce ....
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  • Survival in this division. Forget everything else 'til next season.
  • Move away from trouble obviously. And if we do that we'll be in with a shout of the play offs due to the division being so tight.
  • A steadying influence. We need defenders who defend...Midfielders who break up play and create, and forwards that know where the goal is. Back to basics. We still have bags of talent in that squad, we just need that certain someone who can mold a team out of them. I hope whoever comes in, stops this nonsense with loanee's Has a clear out of the deadwood (heard that before havent we), gets in whoever he can from whatever budget we get from any departures and builds a team of battlers. Then we can move on once we are safe from relegation....which in itself would be totally disasterous.
  • Teamwise, in the next couple of weeks, sort our defensive game out to try and get a couple of clean sheets under our belts. It sounds dull, but if they can avoid having to chase games once they've gone a goal or so down, we might be able to play a more composed game and it could finally lead to a win(or more).

    Get the managerial appointment done ASAP and if the board feel that a short term appointment is needed to stop the rot before moving forward for the future, then let's go with it. Nailing the right appointment at this stage of the season with our current league position is crucial (obviously).
  • This is now a very serious situation. We are in the Championship relegation zone having got thru Dowie/Reed and Pardew in quick succession (relatively) god knows how many player/team configurations in the same era. The Board have needed to refinance and to look for new investment which has so far proved unsuccessful. The players on occasions have shown they have the individual ability but then flatter to deceive. The fans have turned up in good numbers considering the decline.

    So now each of us needs to play our part in the revival of this great club. I hope we have reached our low point. So what do we do:-

    1) This Board didnt set out to appoint managers that fail. But that has been the case. These guys have tried to invest all they can personally and to look for others that can do more. I dont criticise them for that at all. Whatever their choice regarding a new manager knowing all the facts I am 100% behind them. I would not wish to be in their position.

    2) New Manager. One of the key factors here is getting the fans on board. I am afraid that Parky rightly or wrongly is tainted as a man of the Pardew era. I am afraid a new brush is required.

    If it were me I would offer a 6 month performance related contract with a simple formula based on survival in this Division and bonuses based on the position we earn in this league at the end of the season. Quite who would accept such a proposition I dont know but I would have thought their are many well qualified managers who are not in employment at the moment who could fit the bill.

    3) Players. Amongst this squad there are 11 players who are capable of staying in this division. Maybe some loan additions are required. But forget this bullshit that the squad is too good to go down. We are now easy targets at home and our best chance of points are away from home. They need to give 100%.

    4) Fans. Dowies gone/Reeds gone and now Pardews gone. Time to regroup. Forget the fecking feeeesh.
  • I want a goalkeeper who can catch and a defender who can block and a midfelder who can pass and a striker who can score.

    No more nicey nicey's from me. We need to move forward now! ONWARDS AND UPWARDS....
  • I just want them to want it. and its imperative that who ever does come is wants it,

    its really that simple,as soon as the players start to want the ball I believe we'll start pickin up mometum, we do have the quality to atleast compete in this league. But we have to want it.

    Currently we simply don't there's; no commitment, no passion, no composure, no movement,no drive, no direction, no running, no creatin space, simply no wanting of the ball.

    That HAS to change. Hopefully pards will have taken some of that negativity away with him and we can have a positive response, but I think we do need to realise he wasn't/isn't the only problem with this club/team, we have been in freefall for 3/4 years now. what we need is someone to steady the ship and I don't mind waiting for the right person, aslong as we survive this season. Anything else is a bonus
  • We need an experienced guy in there who strips everything down to basics and get's us playing like a team again, with a proper team plan and some basic organisation. Fug knows who though!

    A couple of wins - and soon - is an absolute must, but with the players we have I am convince we COULD put a little run together and, dare I say it, push for a play off spot. But first things first, let's get those couple of wins first.
  • edited November 2008
    It is imperative that we get the right person as our next manager. That will be no easy task as our finances are not great.

    Having made the (what became inevitable) decision that Pardew should go, even if it was mutual, we should not be afraid to persist with a caretaker if necessary until we find the right long term manager.

    The first question is have we chosen the right caretaker? I personally would have preferred Gritty or Peacock but Parkinson did an excellent job without Pardew at Colchester so he also has a managerial pedigree which is easily forgotten in the fall out from Pardew's departure.

    As to a long term successor my preferred candidates are likely to be too expensive or not want the job and yes I mean Curbishley mainly. It may have come too soon for Kinsella although I would love to see him with a more experienced mentor. Maybe Peacock or Gritty would be happy to become number two and offer advice to Mark if neither want the responsibility of being number one. If Parky does a decent job as caretaker then I wouldn't rule him out either.

    One thing is certain though. Survival in this division will now constitute a good season if anybody had any delusions of grandeur left.
  • I want to go back to basics - play 4-4-2 and get the wide men to supply the strikers with decent crosses.

    some parts of our play today was pretty good & if Bouzza has taken his chance and mase it 5-3 I think we could have even got a draw out of it - sheff Utd were all at sea at the back during that 2nd half. It shows that the players can still do it but 5 out of the last 6 games we have gone a goal down early on during the 1st half.

    The incomig manager should be non-charlton and certainly not one of the present staff - someine with no previous knowledeg of the palyers and no pre-conceived idesa.
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  • I've killed threads with this suggestion before, so please don't shoot me down in flames for bringing it up again? Have a look at Andy Hessenthaler's current record at Dover. Put aside local grudges (Okay I accept AFKA thinks he's a 'cock'). The guy seems to be on the up & has a bit of a scrap in him. And he'd be affordable. I'm just making a suggestion...
  • See what happens with Parky, if he's learned lessons from the Pardew debacle (and his rotten spell at Hull) and he's his own man... he could steer us to safety. The next week or so will be crucial, he's got a lot on his shoulders.

    By the end of December we should be mid-ish table and feeling more confident. And have someone permanent in charge who knows what/who he wants, and how he's going to do it.

    Crystal balls can go all fuzzy...but we haven't got a bad squad. We just need someone to mould them into a f***ing good team, insead of pretending there's a good team without putting the effort into take it any further.
  • well with a track record of 5 good seasons in my 43 years of following CAFC i think its a very long and dark road back. 38 years of mostly shit footie -----FFS !

    The Board needs to prepar for running with no dosh at all for a long time. We have been here many times and im sure plans are in place.

    Long ,long term look at the kids we need them coming through.

    We may need to sell Jon Jo , even in Jan as Saints did with the guy to the Goonershit.We may need to sell both Weaver and ZZ as well.

    THe peeps who did such a stunning job with target 10,000 need to be in place to draw up plans for when the wheels fall off our support.

    We need a manager who understands that hard,organised,difficult to beat teams do very well in the Chumps League(stoke/Hull).

    Loan players are NOT the answer. We know from experience that 4 every Jorge Costa there are 10 dummies. If we have to go for loans then it musnt hit the moral of the rest of the team.

    FFS win a few games somehow anyhow ----- be lucky----------be horrible--- be hard ------------be lucky.
  • As fas as I am concerned we need three things:

    stability

    Confidence

    Goals

    In that order. The first will help the second which will lead to the third...

    I hope
  • edited November 2008
    We need a new manager by the name of Baxter Basics. The supporters of Charlton Athletic Football Club need to take off the rose tinted glasses and prepare for a rocking ride because it ain't gonna be nice. Everyone needs to roll up their sleeves and battle and that includes the fans. We need to play our part by turning up in numbers and giving the team our all. Its pointless getting on the players backs because all that achieves is absolutely nothing. The past has gone and we can't do anything to change it. We must look to future and learn from our mistakes.

    Edit: The bloke on the PA, I think his name is Pete Nutall, has to go. We need someone with a bit of passion to help get the crowd going. We need someone who has Charlton blood running through their veins. This bloke couldn't whip up a pot of cream. Bring back big Brian Cole.
  • The most positive thing is that everybody can now unite - players, Parkinson and staff, board and fans.In other words we can be a club again in the true sense of the word. Goodwill on all sides can now prevail while we try to turn it around - and that will definitely help Parky and the team in the immediate short-term objective of gettig out of the bottom three.

    I doubt Parky is the man, but he has 100 per cent support for now and we should not be rushed into a decision we may repent later. On the pitch, his priority is to sort out the defence. We moan about our non-firing strikers but the mess at the back is far worse. We've let in more goals than Doncaster or Forest!

    Expectations are now low. As somebody else said, survival will now be considered a successful season. That can work to our advantage. Start with a clean sheet or two.Nick a goal that gets us all three points - and build from there. With our hopes and aspirations suitably adjusted downwards, from that lowered base we might even end up over-achieving rather than under-achieving.
  • Moral must now be rock bottom? We also see as fans Big Chris "knocking em bandy", Jamal Campbell-Ryce and Michael Turner scorong and playing well. As a moral booster, would we go far wrong with getting Chrissy Powell back to assist and be a spokeman for the undoubted press interest? (even if we have to give him a playing contract to preserve his other "joB")
    Curbs will obviously be linked to us again, but that could come with all sorts of issues? or is he the short term fix we and others talk about?
  • edited November 2008
    If Parkie has ideas that have been stiffled by pards then give him a chance, both the board and the fans, remember we could only just afford to get rid of Pards, sacking Parkie who is on a salary that is better than a 3rd division managers (Huddersfield) will further deplete the coffers and probably require further sales to cover the cost.

    Parkie with Kins has the positive record of Colchester and the negative of Hull.

    If he can't believe how Pards got sacked because it was the board, the player and the fans fault then I suppose its the door but don't expect a big name maanger, we just don't have the money- bring in someone with on field organisational skills and the ability to be consistent.
  • None of us know how Parky is feeling in all this.

    He's been part of Pardew off and on for a long time now, since being his 1st team skipper at Reading.

    Many assistant managers would have walked out in sympathy with their sacked manager or at least feel a twinge of conscience at stepping into the deadman's shoes. Perhaps his own relationship with Pards had become increasingly strained, which was apparent for all within the club to see?

    We won't know until tomorrow, of course - but it'll be interesting to hear what Parky himself has to say.
  • It's about time the players woke up and took some responsibility for their under-achievement, they are supposed to be professionals, time to roll up thier sleeves and show some pride!
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